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Roger Thomasson Folks, you have the floor...
        Apr 12 2012 at 11:25am
_*_ Well, I will chime in here. If it is 100% free of the full product then no there should be no restrictions.

If vendors start the install today only gimmick then I can say I will not download the software as it is "free" in name only as there are clear strings attached.

I would like free to honestly mean free; the full program just as if I were to purchase it myself.

I fully understand vendors only do this if they expect future sales from the "free" offer; so while they may not make money today, they will potentially make it in the future from each free-sale.

If DRM is added to the free software, or if limited time installs are added please do not put them on Bits; as I personally think it will cheapen the site. If that were any interest to me I could go to Giveaway of the Day site, if that is the name. I looked at the site a few times but have no use to install today only software.

That is not free, that is control.

Well, that's my thoughts, others may disagree but it is my view.
        Apr 12 2012 at 6:03pm
Software Guy Just my 2 cents worth - I like the free and understand the reason for some restrictions. But the free is acceptable as a good way to try new, different or updated software - especially software that we might not consider otherwise. Hopefully, the vendor will give us a break on a buy in, usually in the form of an upgrade. And I will buy it if I like it.
Can't tell you how many times I have tried new software and really liked it. And for some software, like photo editors, you really need to use them for a time to decide. Same with organizers (PIMS) and note taking software, especially when it comes to saving html captures.
In my case, I use about 30-40% of software titles I discovered (previously did not know about) on BDJ or other sites. And the new or discounted titles offered have replaced older software about 60% of the time. To me free is good. I am willing to give up a little for the privilege of not having to open my wallet, at least for long enough to decide if it stays or goes. And if you have teenagers/college coeds, saving money is really good because they can spend it even faster than the wife.
Some of us have several computers, and use different software combinations on each. free gives us the opportunity to try different things.
As far as backups go, I do full image backups on a dedicated backup drive for each computer, so a reimage is always good to go with working software, free or not. Sure I backup my data on a raid system, but each computer has its own mirror image drive - because disaster is inevitable. And I just can't afford a half day to reinstall a single machine.
Anyway, if vendors want to promote their works for free I am in. And they can offer the buy-ins discounted on the BDJ everyday deals if we like their work. Or let us upgrade for cheap. It is a "win-win"...
        Apr 12 2012 at 8:30pm
sahil waste i am totally agree with "M B" if its not fully un-restricted then its not free....and i really don't like 1 day install or 1 time install products...
free means free..no restrictions...no strings...no limitations....
        Apr 13 2012 at 5:07pm
S B I absolutely agree with the wise words above: it may be free, and a 100% discount, but--and it's a critical but--it's not a 100% discount from the original product!

Thanks for asking!
        Apr 13 2012 at 9:40pm
Robert Bull Editor's Note: This comment was moved from the Batch Files Renamer comments board, where it originally appeared.

$0 is generous, but I just read the license policy:

"- Transfer of a license to another owned computer is not allowed.
- Online license activation is required with a hardware footprint, and 1 installation per footprint."

No thanks. I'll stick with my file manager and with true freeware.
        Apr 18 2012 at 1:16pm
Little Bear I'm sure you all are familiar with sites such as Giveaway Of The Day and Daily Software Giveaway , and their Giveaway practices such as you can only get it if you install it today , otherwise any later and you miss out.

Bits Du Jour seems much more then this, and Free Software transactions should carry the same professional quality as those we would pay cash for.
        Apr 18 2012 at 3:56pm
Jason Howard I think BDJ have to be aware and need to carefully manage expectations and completely clear about the "100% Off" deals.

While the other deals (eg. 50% off) - users know they are purchasing a product and there are expectations with what that involves, but it seems the 100% off deals are "different" and should be "100% off... but" because there are sometimes conditions or clauses that are in place that would not exist if the deal was "90% off" or just one of the regular purchases.

Knowing that there are possibly two different categories of "Deal" on BDJ now - hopefully will not result in the 100% deals souring peoples attitude to the other deals where real value (IMO) can be had - purchased "properly" (and all the benefits that go with purchasing software from the developer).
        Apr 21 2012 at 1:57am
Roger Thomasson @ Jason

I think you're right about this. We're a little backlogged right now, but the plan is to further differentiate the 100% deals from the regular deals so that there is no confusion.

-r
        Apr 24 2012 at 10:40am
Editor's Note: This comment was moved from the Batch Files Renamer comments board, where it originally appeared.

Policy says:
"Online license activation is required with
a hardware footprint, and 1 installation per footprint. "

I say:
No, thanks.

I stay with den4b ReNamer
        Apr 21 2012 at 9:03am
Nelson Therrien Editor's Note: This comment was moved from the Batch Files Renamer comments board, where it originally appeared.

@Walter Lindrum Lindrum
Personnaly, I agree on the fact that we shouldn't come here just to talk against a company or an offer (unless we have a good reason to do it, like virus or "known to be bad" company, but not just on opinion), but I like it when people give other tools that can perform as well or better... We're here to help, not to put a company down...

For the free stuff, this is new to BDJ, but the more I see it (and test it), the less I like it: it is often a basic version just to send you a bunch of emails trying to convince you to buy the pro version (i.e. Swift To-Do list). The only product I have nothing to say against and which was free is RoboForm Everywhere, but it was clear that it was a "trial", since it was only for 6 months. The current one is really confusing in it's email about a pro version (that is not even listed on their website...). At first glance, it looks more like an error...

@Avi S, I didn't have that problem (though I'm French Canadian), but didn't use it a extensively, so thanks for pointing it out...
        Apr 21 2012 at 2:51pm
DrTeeth Editor's Note: This comment was moved from the Batch Files Renamer comments board, where it originally appeared.

I like the free offers and some of the programs have been full versions, i.e. a pro version does not exist.

Even in a free program, I still find DRM a major reason not to take up an offer.

@Nelson - from his name, I assume that Avi uses a semitic right left language
        Apr 21 2012 at 2:52pm
Avi S Editor's Note: This comment was moved from the Batch Files Renamer comments board, where it originally appeared.

@DrTeeth - True, I use a semitic right-to-left language; but the BRU bug I cited has been reported regarding Russian as well.
        Apr 21 2012 at 2:52pm
DrTeeth @ Avi

Eych nichashti?

Shavooah tov mi London.
        Apr 21 2012 at 3:33pm
Avi S @DrTeeth - Hodesh Tov! We should meet up some time. Let me know if you are ever in Jerusalem
        Apr 21 2012 at 3:38pm
DrTeeth My auntie lives there and my father was also born there too. Same it is soooo expensive to visit.
        Apr 21 2012 at 4:28pm
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