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Emil Kucera Hi, i liked the once-a-week e-mail. Is it lost or have I missed a setting somewhere? I do not particularly care for a daily e-mail in the mailbox. Weekly was enough and I waited with curiosity for the next instalment - learned about some good stuff that way. Daily and not knowing when what comes is no good.
        May 7 2011 at 5:18am
Nico Westerdale Emil, I understand that you an others liked it however we had to remove it for the same reason we removed the 7-day Previews.

We have also found that very few people actually purchase from the weekly email, so it actually costs us about the same to send it as we recoup in sales. We're looking into exactly what to do as part of our upcoming mail server upgrade. We have grandfathered in old weekly signups, but they will most probably be removed at some point.
        May 7 2011 at 7:34am
Robert Bull The moment BdJ removes weekly e-mails is the moment I lose interest in BdJ.
        May 8 2011 at 8:22am
Nico Westerdale Well Robert, Iike I say, it appears that people don't actually purchase much from the weekly email so we can't really keep paying to send them out.
        May 8 2011 at 11:55am
Louis H I was wondering how you measure this, as I plan my budget for purchases based upon the weekly email. It alerts me to what is coming and I know how much i need to plan for. I do not buy anything anymore (small purchases) with credit. I pay for everything with "cash." (Debit card, but the money is immediately taken out of my account, so it's today's equivalent of cash.)

The weekly email allows me more leeway to plan how much of my budget that I set aside for software purchases to set aside for upcoming offers on BDJ, and how much is available for me - for that week - for other purchases. Losing that will more than likely eliminate some percentage of my purchasing from future BDJ offers.

That said, however, I'll still continue to check out what's new each day.

Perhaps you all could expand the listing of future offers on the Dashboard screen, and list the dates for upcoming offers. That would serve the same function as the weekly email does for me now. Just a thought.
        May 8 2011 at 5:37pm
Paul Hello BitsDuJour,

The lists of My Bits contains two items which both have the label purchased. I actually havent' purchased any of the two products.
Doesn't this mix-up your selling statistics?

Kind regards,
Paul
        May 8 2011 at 9:02pm
Nico Westerdale Paul, you can remove those items by clicking the little Note icon. As we don't process the final sales we have to rely on tracking the email openings, link clicks and buy button clicks, which allows us to draw enough conclusions.
        May 9 2011 at 12:05am
Staley Nico,
I'm a little confused. Why does it cost money to send out the emails? Are you using a mail contact provider for this? Or is it a hosting company additional cost for the amount of emails BitsDuJour, I am sure and understand, sends out? I think this is just a misunderstand and ignorance on my part of how much this really costs, as I don't normally have to send out the bulk of email notices in my day to day life.
        May 9 2011 at 1:21am
Nico Westerdale If you have a list of any size then you have to pay. If I just had Outlook sending the emails it would take a few weeks to send them and they would be refused by the ISP! We currently have a dedicated email server but we are moving to a hosted solution shortly. Both cost money to run.
        May 9 2011 at 1:38am
Robert Bull It's the weekly e-mail that tells me to plan to go online on the day of the offer. Most of my purchases through BdJ have been made on that system. It's even more useful now that I'm not online every day anyway. Still, now I'll be able to budget for other things than software.
        May 9 2011 at 8:51am
Nico Westerdale I wish other people were also purchasing from the weekly email, sadly it appears it's just not the case for the larger crowd.
        May 9 2011 at 9:21am
Tazzie I also use the weekly email to plan my purchases. There may be more of us using it than it seems. I always look forward to the email so I can see what's coming and start salivating (and figuring out if I need to plan to eat peanut butter sandwiches that week lol) :-)
        May 9 2011 at 11:58am
Louis H Yeah, I never really thought about clicking through from the email itself. i only look at it, plan out my budget for the week, and then simply wait until the items I want to purchase are the deal of the day. from now on, however, I will click through from the email on the items I want. It really would be a shame to lose the weekly email. Not a necessity, but it is nice to have it. (I actually look for it each week with anticipation!)
        May 9 2011 at 5:18pm
DrTeeth +1 for the weekly email.

I also did not click on links in the email.

Guy
        May 9 2011 at 8:56pm
Nico Westerdale So you guys really want us to continue to loose money on the weekly email?
        May 10 2011 at 1:22am
Tazzie I really like the use I get from the weekly email, but not at the expense of BDJ. What kind of compromise is possible? You may need to weigh the cost of the weekly email with the possible lost revenue from those who depend on the email to plan their purchases. Someone who depends on the email to remind them to go to BDJ may end up missing quite a few deals if they don't go to BDJ daily to check.

Is there a way to put that info on the BDJ website? If there is a problem with making that info too public, then perhaps a dedicated page with a password for those who are signed up for the weekly email to access.

This is obviously important, and considering the fact that many of us never thought to click from the email, I bet the number of people whose purchases are influenced by the email is a lot larger than it seems. Therefore, the revenue gained by the influence of the email on purchases could be enough to offset the cost of the email. I understand that without the factual numbers to prove that it makes decision making harder on whether to continue the emails or not.

One idea that just occurred to me ... in an email to those signed up for the weekly email ... explain how the system was set up and why you need us to click from the email itself. That might help increase the numbers you need to determine continuation or not of the email.

Hope this is not too confusing. I tend to do my thinking "out loud," which is why you get rambling posts at times :-/
        May 10 2011 at 5:37am
DrTeeth No way. I was just telling you WHY you lost money g. Seriously, if I knew that you would benefit from my clicking in the email, I'd click.

You do what is best for BdJ, 'cos that is good for us too.

Bestest

Guy
        May 10 2011 at 8:16am
Nico Westerdale Thats real nice of you guys, but unfortunately I don't think it would make much difference considering our volume.
        May 10 2011 at 11:08am
Faisal Humayun I belong to the camp that doesn't like emails much. I use twitter clients like Trillian 5 and Hootsuite to receive notifications for all my BDJ deals. For me the ideal situation would be to subscribe to a feed from BDJ admins revealing upcoming promotions.

Vote: Nix emails +1
        May 10 2011 at 12:43pm
Tomasz Lisowski What about a RSS feed? Isn't it enough for interested people to subscribe to the feed to see what's there? I guess this would provide a similar amount and accessibility of the information as before, when it was sent as an e-mail ...
        May 11 2011 at 6:50am
Nico Westerdale We have a feed here: http://www.bitsdujour.com/rss
        May 11 2011 at 7:28am
Robert Bull Er, your complaint about the cost of weekly e-mails sounds illogical. If you were to cut out *daily* e-mails, and move all daily subscribers onto weekly, hey presto, you would only have to pay for one-seventh of your previous volume.
        May 11 2011 at 10:11am
Nico Westerdale Robert I did factor that into the equation.
        May 11 2011 at 11:48am
Tomasz Lisowski Exactly. If it only provided the preview of the future deals (a name and a link should be enough) instead of only of a current one, I guess people won't complain about missing e-mails anymore
        May 11 2011 at 7:49pm
DrTeeth I still seem to be getting the weekly emails.

Guy
        May 12 2011 at 10:30pm
Pedro Laurent One solution is to have the "Upcoming Deals" section show the weekly list of software's with the date of the upcoming deal of course. I don't see nothing wrong with that moved and it will save you money and everyone will be satisfied.
        May 15 2011 at 12:05am
spacingham I will also miss the weekly email. It seems that I did the same thing most people in this post did which was look at the email & decide what I wanted ahead of time. That way I could plan/save/borrow/steal the money to purchase an item because I don't just have money, I have to get it & put it in my bank account. I sometimes clicked the item I wanted from the weekly email to read the full story but I don't think I ever bought an item from the link in the mail. I usually just go to the site from a bookmark & buy from there. The day of is generally (almost always) too short a notice & will absolutely cause me not to buy things I otherwise would have. I agree with Pedro on having the "Upcoming Deals" dated for users who are logged in. Maybe you could give users the choice of which mail they want, weekly or daily but never both. Oh well.
        May 18 2011 at 6:58pm
Nico Westerdale The upcoming deals on the dashboard are now available even if your'e not logged in. So if you came to the site twice a week you'd never miss a deal.
        May 18 2011 at 11:13pm
Avi Horwitz I actually do scan the weekly email and look for what I might want to purchase. I always have done that. And, this week there are three programs I am looking at from the weekly email.

Perhaps one reason that it appears few people buy from the weekly email may be because, as I do, we use the weekly email to scout out what we are interested in, and then on the day it is available we click on it from the Daily Email.

Honestly, I wont have time to look at a daily everyday and so I will probably purchase less if I don't get the weekly emails.

Avi
        May 16 2011 at 1:07am
Robert Bull In today's (2011-05-22) weekly e-mail you say you're shortly going to turn weekly e-mails off, and that daily e-mails are an opt-in. Just to be certain: I DON'T want daily e-mails, so do nothing, and BdJ will stop sending? And will you undertake to delete all such non-acceptances from your database?
TIA...
        May 22 2011 at 8:23am
Pedro Laurent Where does it say that the weekly email will not be available any more as of today? I don't like the daily emails since it is not a good decision point for me to not know when a wanted software will be available since I just don't go and buy on the same day I received the email notification as I need to plan for it beforehand. I am sure the bitsdujour admins have the best intentions in mind but good things can turn bad for me and others. If the admins at bitdujour don't have any choice at least display the weekly list on the website with their respective dates of the promotion so I can plan my purchases.
        May 22 2011 at 12:30pm
Nico Westerdale Pedro, You can see three days of previews on the Dashboard here:
http://www.bitsdujour.com/previews

Simply click "I Want This" and you'll get an email when you can get the deal!
        May 22 2011 at 11:55pm
Nico Westerdale That's correct we will be shortly retiring the weekly email. If you are currently receiving it and do nothing you will not receive the daily email. If you want the daily email then simply add yourself here.

http://www.bitsdujour.com/subscribe
        May 22 2011 at 11:54pm
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