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Stefan Hauber This looks to be a very interesting program. I just played around with the trial-version for a while now.

Is there a way to export an album without any quality-loss?

Thinking about having recorded some audio (let's say in MP3), the ongoing process with your software is, as I see, this: It's imported into your program with a bps-quality definable in the options (mp3-wma?), than it is worked on (further quality loss?) and finally it's exported as album (wma). So if I want to have mp3-files, which I can play with my DVD player, I'll have again to convert the files. That would make about three conversions, with each time the quality is going down. When working on the original mp3-files with some other - of cause not so convenient - tools, when cutting MP3-files there is no loss at all.

But perhaps/hopefully I am wrong. As said, I was not going too much in the depth, when checking it out...

Some other - nice if it could do this - things came into my mind when playing around with this:

- when exporting it would be nice to be able to define to shrink a gap of a certain time (e.g. =10s) to a smaller gap (e.g. =5s), or ideally for a longer break to insert a user-definable audio-file between the gap, to let the listener know there was a longer break.

- to allow this speed-increase/decrease or volume up/down (or noice-reduction, if you would have) to assign to certain files ,instead of having the user define this globally.

Finally, again, it looks like a very interesting and good product....
Nov 12 2010 at 7:22pm Copy Link
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Dave Tucker Audio Notetaker keeps the audio compressed and doesn't do any conversions without warning you. In particular, editing and then exporting won't normally require a conversion. Unfortunately MP3 is the one format that doesn't edit well and 100ms or so is blanked out when you do a join - but because you normally join during silence, this shouldn't bother you much. As pointed out in the comment above, conversions lose quality and take time, so we think they are well worth avoiding!

We *are* considering a gap shrinking facility. Meanwhile you can easily reduce any silence by creating an extra segment in the middle of it using Format-Split Segement (Cntl T), and then deleting it.

Whilst speed change is a global function (we believe this is normally used in a temporary way), volume is applied on a per-workspace basis. Moreover, if you save the workspace to an Audio Notetaker file, the volume setting is remembered when you reload it.

Hope that clarifies everything!
Sonocent Ltd. - Nov 14 2010 at 5:34am Copy Link
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Mark Durieux I have tried twice to trial Audio Notetaker. Although it seemed to install correctly both times, when I would click on the program icon I would get the following two messages: 1) "In order to use Audio Notetacker 2.2 an Administrator must grant permission to run the software at least once. To grant permissions to the application, select the Authorize button and ask an Administrator to enter their login information"; 2) when I select the "Authorize" button the next message appears: "If you started the program, continue -- License Authorization Tool XHEO INC" with the option to "continue" or "cancel". Clicking on "continue" only makes the second dialogue box disappear and nothing further happens. Consequently, I can't access the program. Frustrating to say the least. Can anyone explain what's going on and how to resolve this issue? This looks like a very interesting and useful program which I'm strongly inclined to purchase -- but, obvoiusly, only if I can get it to run properly! ;-)
Nov 18 2010 at 10:22am Copy Link
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Niels Erik Karkov I have 3 computers, all for my personal use and none running at the same time. Do I have to purchase 3 licenses?
Nov 18 2010 at 9:41pm Copy Link
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Dave Tucker We sometimes get this behaviour reported on 64-bit Vista but haven't managed to reproduce it in our lab. The way round it seems to be to set the Compatibility Property of AudioNote.exe to "Run this program as administrator". If anyone has this behaviour and is unsure how to set this property, please mail supportaudionotetaker.com.
Sonocent Ltd. - Nov 18 2010 at 9:51pm Copy Link
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Dave Tucker You can install Audio Notetaker on 2 PCs for your own use. If you really need a 3rd PC then I guess, yes, you would have to buy an extra license. Luckily on 20th Nov it is at a very discounted price!
Sonocent Ltd. - Nov 18 2010 at 9:55pm Copy Link
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Mica D. Installing it on 2 computers of my own is not ideal, but sufficent.

But, what to do, if one has has to be replaced, because it does not work any more. When trying to activate this program on my new one, will this activation being blocked, because there already have been two activations?
Nov 19 2010 at 2:34pm Copy Link
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Dave Tucker It will initially be blocked, yes. However, you can always deactivate the software from your old computer in order to install it on another machine. If it is not possible to do this (if your computer was stolen/broken for example) you can always request a deactivation online through our website.

In essence, you're allowed to run Audio Notetaker on 2 machines at any one time, but if you stop using it on one machine then that activation can be transfered to another one.
Sonocent Ltd. - Nov 19 2010 at 8:12pm Copy Link
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J Hensley Is this only a one-year license or does it buy indefinite program use?

What is the difference between this product and version 2?

Thanks.
Nov 20 2010 at 2:18am Copy Link
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Nico Westerdale @J, Check out the "Policy" section on the top right, that has details on the license.
BitsDuJour Admin - Nov 20 2010 at 2:20am Copy Link
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Dave Tucker Although we do sell one-year licenses, this offer is for a full version 2 license. The upgrade from version 1 to version 2 was free, which is why we didn't bother writing the version number in the product information.
Sonocent Ltd. - Nov 20 2010 at 2:39am Copy Link
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Michael R. Liked and bought it...

I think I would like to use it also for recording/creating some kind of readings/audio-books by myself. The idea is to read a text loud and record it at once. Of course the resulting record should be free of any errors. So when I make a fault inside a sentence I would like to be able to mark its position (while recording), reread the appropriate sentence again and continue. With these position markers of the faulty sentences it would be probably quite easy to cut out the faulty sentences without the need to hear the complete text again. I tried to do those marking by clapping in the hands (and so to create a very short audio-block), but I think it would be better to just press a key (or even better would be to make a secific sound, e.g. ring a bicycle-bell etc. which the program would recognize as special sound...). Later would be probably quite difficult to implement, but marking the position with a single keystroke would be quite easy I suppose...

I also would like to be able to add a short text to the marked audio-snippets, which would be displayed, perhaps like a tool-tip - as soon as the mouse is placed over this part.

Thanks for the - as far as I can say yet from my short testing - good product and for the big discount. Not cheap, but if regularily used, a good buy...
Nov 20 2010 at 3:41pm Copy Link
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Dave Tucker Hi Peter,

You can cut bits off a segment by first splitting it with ctrl+t and then deleting the new segment in the usual way. You may be interested to know you can also merge segments by selecting multiple ones and pressing ctrl+m.
Sonocent Ltd. - Apr 11 2011 at 6:57am Copy Link
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Dave Tucker I'd like to find out what you're going to use it for, but I'll send you an email about it instead :)
Sonocent Ltd. - Apr 11 2011 at 7:24am Copy Link
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Ron Childs Can the software import recordings from hand held digital recorders?

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Apr 12 2011 at 6:49am Copy Link
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Dave Tucker Hi Ron,

Yep, and there's a devices manager too which makes the importing of recordings a piece of cake. We currently support MP3, WAV and WMA file formats, so do make sure that your digital recorder doesn't use its own proprietary format, although these days it's rare to find recorders that do. Hope that helps!
Sonocent Ltd. - Apr 12 2011 at 6:59am Copy Link
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Michael R. I bought it last time it was on BDJ and it turned out, it was a very good buy. It has a useful porpose is good written and saving/loading is done astonishing fast...

One thing turned out to be a little problematic. I don't know why, but once in a while the program moaned that there has been a major hardware change and it can't continue at all without an internet connection. [I run it on my laptop where I haven't done any hardware-change yet, but it has two graphic cards inside, between which I can switch, so perhaps this might be the reason; just speculating because I can't reproduce it by will...] Having an internet-connection this turned out to be no problem at all. Bad thing is, if I do not have one in this moment. So I amneither able to record new entries with your program - this is not soo problematic: I could record with another program and import it later - but also am not able to access my prior records.

I think it would be a good solution in such a case - hardware change - to set a counter of some days to allow the program to be used without internet-verifying, before it really locks (ideally the same number of days, the demo would work, but 14 or even 7 days would be a good thing too).

Additionally I would like to have the possibility of a link between a text on the left side and an audio-position on the right. Currently if a kind of subject-change occurs in the audio-data I mark it with a certain color and when I do a short description of it on the left text-side I use this text with the very same color. (*) Also I add some empty lines to make their vertical positions quite similar. Unfortunately, when changing the window's layout the position of the text and audio are no more on the same height... So if there would be a link, I just could e.g. double-click on a certain link and the cursor position would automatically jump to the right audio-position. There would be no really need to adjust the vertical position, so that the text and the audio-position have the same height to find the wanted audio-position easier. This would be great...

(*) In my opion I would prefer one color-selection in the menu (instead currently two: one for the audio and one for the text) and it would be applied to the panel whis is currently selected (selected text in the text panel or next (or selected) position audio-panel). So the colors would exactly match.

Thanks a lot...
Apr 12 2011 at 6:39pm Copy Link
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Andrew Griffiths We bought several copies of Audio Notetaker when it was last on Bits Du Jour. We have not made huge use of the software, but that's our fault.

One member of our team said "where was this when I was in college?" - she was so impressed. The recent improved functionality to import PDF files is great. We've used the software recently to go over post-conference PDFs & recordings and both pick up key nuggets that we missed and review sessions that we were not able to attend.

As with any software, when you find something that gives you a new capability, it's easy to think of other things you'd like to do. I mentioned some of these "Wishlist ideas" to Dave late last year and hopefully they will come. However, if you have a clear purpose in mind for the software, I recommend it unreservedly as a purchase now.
Apr 12 2011 at 6:46pm Copy Link
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Dave Tucker Andrew,

Thanks for your comments. We have looked into some of your suggestions and I'm pleased to say that the VOIP recording is nearly there and should appear in the next release. I'm glad you're finding the software useful!
Sonocent Ltd. - Apr 12 2011 at 10:30pm Copy Link
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Dave Tucker Michael,

Thanks for your feedback! Linking the text and the audio is something we've been thinking about for a long time. The trouble is, because the audio is so easy to edit, what happens when you cut and paste/delete audio? Should the text move/be deleted too? We're thinking through various ways of doing it, but we should have some sort of linking in the next release.

As for your activation trouble, we have only ever seen this behaviour once before. It's a problem with our 3rd party licensing system and we're not sure what causes it. We've sent you an email about it, so hopefully we can fix the problem soon. In the meantime, you can always access your old files by downloading the free Viewer from our website.
Sonocent Ltd. - Apr 12 2011 at 11:06pm Copy Link
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Steven Schulman Does this work with the audio from a LiveScribe pen?
Apr 12 2011 at 11:50pm Copy Link
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Dave Tucker Hi Steven,

As far as I know, with LiveScribe desktop for windows you can export your audio as .aac, .m4a, mp4 or .wav files. Out of those Audio Notetaker currently supports only .wav files, although these will be much larger than if you saved your files as one of the other formats. We plan to support all the other file formats for the next release (version 3).

If you want to keep your files small, then it is possible to convert aac files to mp3 (which Audio Notetaker supports) through iTunes. Go into iTunes preferences and under Advanced tab select Importing tab and change import using AAC encoder to MP3 encoder. Then you can right-click on a file and select 'convert to MP3'.

It may also be of interest that you can export your LiveScribe pages as PDF files and then import them into Audio Notetaker too.

Hope that helps!
Sonocent Ltd. - Apr 13 2011 at 12:07am Copy Link
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_*_ Dave Tucker, I have a question. After reading Michael R's post about his run in with your DRM how would this happen? If there is no hardware footprint taken why would something like this take place?

Does the DRM periodically check itself online?

I guess I am confused how much the DRM impacts the user since Michael R indicates he is simply using his laptop and seems as if he should have not run into this problem at all.

Thanks
Apr 13 2011 at 2:39am Copy Link
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Gary Carson I think I already know the answer to this, but will Audio Notetaker import DSS and DS2 files? These are standard formats for recorders like the Olympus DS5000 which are designed for use with Dragon Naturally Speaking.
Apr 13 2011 at 2:43am Copy Link
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charlie arehart @Dave, thanks for being here to answer questions. I have some, and a couple of observations. I'd not seen the tool before, and it looks potentially very useful.

One thing not clear from reviewing the info on the site: if we "import" audio, does this mean that a complete copy of the audio imported is created? I've got some large files (whether based on time or format), so it seems worth knowing. (I looked in several places for it, so you may want to address this question where importing is mentioned.)

Also, there's not much mention of the viewer in the introductory pages, and the "what is audio notetaker" series of pages. I suppose someone there may think "well, it's mentioned at the end of the video", but some will not watch the video, so it would be a shame if they might miss this feature, which could be quite important in deciding whether to buy (as it adds value beyond just watching things yourself)

Finally, with respect to the viewer, it would seem helpful if you offered some sort of demo viewer file (on the site, and in the viewer download) that we could view, to see what folks using it would see running the viewer (without us having to download and use the full tool to demonstrate with our own stuff.) Such a demo could also demonstrate various capabilities of the different kinds of things a.n.t. can do.

Also, the buy page for now lists only British Pounds. You may start to get more attention from the US now, with this BDJ offer, so you may want to consider offering at least also $US. :-)

BTW, so this doesn't sound like all criticism, I'll say it's great to see all that you do have (the ample info on the site, including the roll-over presentation of features, the video, and so on. ) Hope my observations are helpful.
Apr 13 2011 at 3:03am Copy Link
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Software Guy I too am awaiting the answer about periodic "activation" which IS digital rights management. I take notes on the road, and if the software is looking to periodically validate the license, and prevents me from accessing or taking notes, then it is a NO GO for certain. It remains easy enough to tag my files then run them through Dragon NS into MS Word as I do now. there must be incentive to use this utility, and the DRM is killing it. Don't penalize the good, paying users that keep you in business for the few unscrupulous.
Apr 13 2011 at 3:39am Copy Link
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charlie arehart @softwareguy: fair enough. DRM can mean different things to different people. I was just afraid @mb was thinking it had to do with audio DRM, when it doesn't seem to. But if you and he would call activation (and periodic checking of it) DRM, so be it.

Anyway, I certainly agree with you guys that if the checking gets in the way of reasonable use (especially if disconnected from the net when it happens), that is indeed a bad thing. I also agree with Michael's proposal that, if for some reason it must happen, it would be nice to have a grace period of some days so users aren't caught out.
Apr 13 2011 at 3:45am Copy Link
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Dave Tucker To everyone concerned about the licensing,

Firstly I'd like to make it clear that the licensing does not periodically check your computer to validate the license. Once activated the licensing does nothing unless your machine hardware (or hardware footprint) changes dramatically, in which case it asks you activate again. So please don't worry about that.

We have used this (3rd party) licensing system for over 3 years with around 12,000 activations and have had just 2 problems reported recently, which we are trying to get to the bottom of. We certainly don't want a system that impacts the experience for paying users in any way.

As with any issue with Audio Notetaker, if you contact support reporting the problem, we'll do everything we can to sort the problem out.
Sonocent Ltd. - Apr 13 2011 at 4:14am Copy Link
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Dave Tucker @gcarson

Unfortunately Audio Notetaker doesn't support the Olympus proprietary formats, including DSS and DS2. I think you can save DSS files as wav files using Olympus software, and then import those wav files into Audio Notetaker, but this will make your file sizes very big, so isn't the best solution!
Sonocent Ltd. - Apr 13 2011 at 4:18am Copy Link
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Michael W. Foutty Just this past week I was looking for a way to deal with my audio files and along comes this "Audio Notetaker". Never heard of it before, never saw it's capabilities in any software before....so before I forget, I'm of to purchase it!

...and thanks for the clarification regarding activation issues...

All Success!
Apr 13 2011 at 4:41am Copy Link
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Patrick Germain Hi. This product sounds very interesting.
However I'm in search of another kind of product. Sorry if I'm out of topics, in which case feel free to delete my post and accept my apologies.

What I would like to find is a product that would transcript audio recordings into text transcripts you could edit, save, and print.

I just visited Sonocent Web site but did not find anything such.

Any clue? Many thanks in advance.

Cheers.

PG
Apr 13 2011 at 4:48am Copy Link
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Dave Tucker @carehart

Thanks for your comments; feedback is always appreciated :)

The question of what happens to your audio is slightly technical which is why we don't have it on our site (should go in the FAQ though!). We have two modes which can be switched in the options menu: linked and embedded. Audio Notetaker's default is embedded as that's what people expect - you import audio and it's saved within the .ran audio notetaker file. This means that even if you delete your original audio file, you won't lose the audio from your Audio Notetaker file. Linked mode means that Audio Notetaker simply references the original audio file, reducing the size of your Audio Notetaker file. It does mean that if you delete your original audio file, you will lose the audio within your Audio Notetaker file too.

The viewer is simply a 'read only' version of Audio Notetaker. So a person using the viewer will see exactly what you see, it's just they won't be able to edit anything. We have spent time developing a web-based viewer, but at the moment we don't feel that it is polished enough to be put on the website!

The buy page *should* display the price in the local currency. I have had this problem with one other user and refreshing the page seemed to do the trick.
Sonocent Ltd. - Apr 13 2011 at 4:48am Copy Link
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Dave Tucker @pg111

You, like much of the world, is looking for a good ASR (Automatic Speech Recognition) tool. Dragon Naturally Speaking by Nuance is one of the best out there. It works very well for dictation but not so well for ambient recordings (such as a meeting, interview or presentation). For those situations, Audio Notetaker really is the next best thing.

Please do try using Dragon though. Depending on what your recordings are of, you may find it works for you.
Sonocent Ltd. - Apr 13 2011 at 4:52am Copy Link
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Patrick Germain Thanks, Dave, for your input.

However should I understand that Audio Notetaker is able to transcript an audio recording into text?

Many thanks in advance for your answer.

Cheers.

PG
Apr 13 2011 at 4:59am Copy Link
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Dave Tucker @pg111

To clarify - no, Audio Notetaker cannot transcribe an audio recording into text.
Sonocent Ltd. - Apr 13 2011 at 5:06am Copy Link
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Dave Tucker @M F

As far as we know, Audio Notetaker is the only software program that offers this interface for audio recordings. It really does make it a lot more accessible and can make a huge difference to how you use audio. It's very much a coincidence that you were contemplating this problem only this very week though!
Sonocent Ltd. - Apr 13 2011 at 5:08am Copy Link
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Ron Childs Can you please turn off the comments? I do not want to get bombarded with stuff I have no interest in. Thank you

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Apr 13 2011 at 5:30am Copy Link
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Nico Westerdale @ron, Please use the "Email Notifications" link at the top of the comments list here to turn on and off notifications.
BitsDuJour Admin - Apr 13 2011 at 8:27am Copy Link
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charlie arehart @Dave, thanks for the responses to my questions. Some follow-up:

- as for the viewer, and my mentioning that it wasn't discussed much on the site, I wasn't saying that to ask what it was. Instead I was suggesting that you may be missing sales opps by prospects not knowing about it. It's a great added feature.

- but related to that, with respect to the embedding feature, how does that work with the viewer, then? Would one have to give a person both the ran and the embedded audio? Would it need to be in the same directory it was found in, relative to the saved ran file, when it was embedded?

- Finally, I went ahead and got the trial. I was excited about the live recording option (for meetings, as discussed on the site). I guess that was oriented to a "mic in the room", because it didn't work well for a web-based meeting (where I was speaking in my mic and hearing others over the web). Sadly it only recorded my voice, not the others. Is there any way (in the tool, or with tools you may recommend) to get both to be recorded by ANT?

If it could do that, we'd have a sale. Without it, it only helps for post-processing (because I can and do save the recording otherwise), but it was very compelling to consider being able to annotate a recorded call on the fly. Doing it after the fact will mean double-time (listening to the recording again and marking it up.) Still cool, but less likely to happen.

Hope others may have asked you about this, so that you have a quick answer, as the hours for the deal are dwindling. :-)
Apr 13 2011 at 11:12am Copy Link
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Dave Tucker @Charlie

- you're right, the viewer is only compatible with 'embedded' audio notetaker files, as there is no other way of getting the audio information. It is possible to convert from one to the other, so you could set 'linked' as default and then simply save files as embedded if you wanted to share them.

- The live recording feature was made for recording your ambient environment, although many others have asked about recording the output of your soundcard too. It's something we've looked into and *should* be in the next release, which will be a free upgrade. In the meantime, there are apps that do the same thing, although I don't know if they'd be worth the money!

It's annoying for the other person, but you could always just play the conversation through an external speaker for the time being?
Sonocent Ltd. - Apr 13 2011 at 11:48am Copy Link
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Michael R. Thanks, Dave, for your answer.

About this linking problem and how to handle, if a position where he link points to is suddenly gone: Perhaps it makes sense to let the user decide: There could be a message-box where the user can be make aware of he is not only affecting the audio, but also one or more links and let him do this deletion or cancel it. Additionally inside my message-box there would be some option-components- the little round circles where the user can choose exactly one - via them he might decide, if the link should point to the next still existing audio-position or is changed to a 'broken link' (as a NULL-pointer in C/C++) or perhaps even is removed from the text-panel. (A 'broken' link might be displayed in another color/style).

A little tricky would be, if the user would do a copy/paste or delete/paste. Would be great if the link position could survive this delete/paste process ;-)
Apr 13 2011 at 4:57pm Copy Link
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Dave Tucker @Charlie

I seem to have made a mistake regarding the viewer's support for linked audio.

My colleague has just told me that if there's a file missing it doesn't search for it using the file manager like the full version does, you have to select the missing file by hand - but other than that it works. For RAN files, as long as the audio files are in the same location relative to the RAN file, it should find them automatically when moving from one PC to another. For the old ANT files they have to be in exactly the same folder as they were on the machine that created them.

Sorry about telling you inaccurate information!
Sonocent Ltd. - Aug 26 2011 at 4:51am Copy Link
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J M anybody from the past BDJ offer is using this currently?
i wish to hear some brief review from the users here. Do you use this daily? Do you record from some external recorder? What use do you give to this app? Thanks!
Sep 11 2011 at 1:56am Copy Link
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M M What about recording VOIP? I would definitely buy it if I could record from Skype and Office Communicator, and make notes in paralel.
Sep 11 2011 at 8:43am Copy Link
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Eddie Tex @M M

I spent a few moments looking at the previous comments here on BDJ and the vendor's forum board on their website. This app records whatever can be heard through the microphone. However, it is NOT built to record sounds that are processed through the sound card out the speakers. Thus, it would not work with a Skype or OC call.

That said, this app is one-of-a-kind once you do have a sound file (*.mp3, *.wma, *.wav) that you'd like to process with notes through this application. If you haven't already done so, look at the video they provide. It does a nice job of walking you through it's capabilities.

I store up a number of MP3 files myself of lectures and sermons and am considering putting this to use myself.
Sep 11 2011 at 8:03pm Copy Link
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M M @Eddie Tex
I agree ANT looks exciting, but I frequently have 1.5 hour conf calls, from which I need just short moments, when I did not understand something, or would like to listen again to remember better. Processing such long recordings afterwards will take time, which I frequently do not have, and which I could save making the notes while listening.
If it were $10 or $15 I would not hesitate, but $60 is high price for me if functionality is limited. And I would be highly dissapointed to learn that I need to spend another $60 or more for the upgrade to the next version with VOIP capability.
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Dave Tucker @J M
This is the third time we've run a promotion on BDJ, so there are some comments from users who purchased first time around which you may find interesting.

@M M
VOIP recording functionality is something that people have been asking for and we are looking into. If you do purchase Audio Notetaker and then send me an email then I'd be happy to give you a beta version to test in exchange for feedback.
Sonocent Ltd. - Sep 12 2011 at 5:40am Copy Link
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Michael R. I'm a a former buyer and heavy user of live-recording and I like it very much.

Because the recording with the built-in microphone makes too much noise with the vent, I'm now thinking about buying a cheap recorder / dictaphone to store some remarks on it. Beside the sound these devices also store the date/time on them. I think this is an often essential information for an audio-file.

So, is it possible for Autdio Notetaker to import all these created files of them at once in an open project and store each audio-file in a separate paragraph and let the date/time of each audio-file be visible somewhere, e.g. in the text-part of the audio-file?

Ideally this should be possible with as few manual work as possible.

Is there a certain standard these recorders should have for an optimal work-together with Audio Notetaker, so a potential dictaphone-buyer could check this before buying?

I just imported some audio-files(at once) from a directory on my harddisk. The audio-files were imported perfectly and also stored in different paragraphs, but I can't find the date/time information as information of all files somewhere inside AudioNotetaker. When clicking inside a paragraph, I find the original filename in the status-bar (together with the audio-duration), but I can't see any date/time.

In the windows-explorer, when selecting the file itself, I can see two date/time informations: creation and change-date/time.

Of course it would also be nice to have access to the tag-information an mp3-file has from within AudioNotetaker...

A nice feature could be e.g. to have a context-menu-option when clicking in the text-part of a paragraph allowing to paste the creation-date/time of the audio-file at the right side. And the same could be done e.g. for the tag-information. How date/time (or tag-information) is displayed could be configurable in the option-menu.

Thanks a lot...
Sep 12 2011 at 11:13pm Copy Link
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M M @Dave Tucker,
That's sounds like a nice opportunity, but please clarify if you plan to add VOIP within current version (2.x), or would I need to buy ANT again? And if so, is it likely to work with various solutions (Skype, Microsoft's Office Communicator). My local currency again depreciated against the dollar due to global turmoil, which makes it even more expensive for me. Also, there is no discount for upgrades promised.
Sep 13 2011 at 1:49am Copy Link
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Dave Tucker @Michael R

Firstly, a good solution if you like live recording is just buying a decent external mic such as the Samson Go. If you do want to go for a digital recorder, then you'll want to get a Sony one with a 'T-mark' button or an Olympus with an 'index' button.

As for your comments, we can add functionality to see the metadata and date/time of an audio recording if we understand why it is useful and necessary. If you could email support@sonocent.com explaining what you use Audio Notetaker for and why this functionality would be useful we could consider adding it to our design.

@M M
The VOIP version should work with anything as long as you are running Vista or Windows 7. It won't be compatible with XP unfortunately. If you email us then you won't need to pay for an upgrade if it does require one, although I think it is unlikely that it will.
Sonocent Ltd. - Sep 13 2011 at 3:43am Copy Link
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Michael Guilfoyle I have been searching high and low for a decent app to record everything - skype calls, dictating with dragon Naturally speaking etc. I especially want something I can record along with DNS so I can check what I said at a later time. I'd like to be able to run something in the background that just starts recording as soon as something is picked up on the microphone or VOIP and then I can go back and review later. Don't want to have to click start and stop - I don't want to have to think about it.

If Audio Notetaker is going to be able to do this I will buy it right away.

thanks
Sep 14 2011 at 2:47am Copy Link
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Dave Tucker @Michael Guilfoyle

It doesn't sound like Audio Notetaker will quite meet your needs in its current form. Audio Notetaker currently only records audio from an input source and not an output. There is also no feature for it to start recording when it picks up something from the input or output, although because it displays speech as bars and silence as gaps, it would be very easy to leave it on record and then visually see where you started talking. You can always delete the silences anyway.

As I said to @M M, we do have a VoIP recording version planned, which current users may beta test if they are interested.
Sonocent Ltd. - Sep 14 2011 at 3:14am Copy Link
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bvssunnydale Hi, I have version 2 from bitsdujour from November 2010 [I have to admit I've never gotten around to installing it - my bad]. Is this the same version 2. Thanks very much.
Sep 14 2011 at 11:06am Copy Link
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James Kenney If I remember correctly the Sound Blaster Audigy has in input called something like "Everything I hear" and if this program lets you pick any input a device has, it would let you record anything that would be going out the speakers...
Sep 14 2011 at 11:57am Copy Link
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Eddie Tex @ James Kenney

I recall that feature as well back when I had an Audigy card. Since then, however, I have not seen that feature supported.

It's too bad b/c it sure came in handy when I needed it. Creative might still support that feature in their cards. I wouldn't know as I have gone away from them.
Sep 14 2011 at 1:09pm Copy Link
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K X @ Dave

I bought Audio Notetaker during a previous Bits sale. I thought about trying Audio Notetaker for some foreign language studying. I imported a Greek mp3 and wanted to write my notes in Greek and English. I tried entering the Greek text with PopChar (featured recently on Bits), but I could not get it to work with Audio Notetaker.

Is it possible to look into this and tweak Audio Notetaker so it accepts input from PopChar so I can use it to input Greek and other foreign languages I study?
Sep 14 2011 at 1:32pm Copy Link
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Eddie Tex @ K X

I don't think it has nothing to do with PopChar. You're essentially looking for unicode support.

PopChar should work with anything that accepts unicode input.

I too dabble with Greek (and Hebrew)... unicode support is touch-and-go with various applications.
Sep 14 2011 at 2:13pm Copy Link
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Dave Tucker @bvssunnydale

It's not the same version, but all upgrades have been free so far, so there is no need to buy again.

@K X

You should have got in touch sooner! We use the MS rich text box and I know we support asian characters. Our development resources are quite pushed at the moment with the mac version, but we can definitely add it to the list of things to address! Please do email support@sonocent.com with ideas for improvements or when things don't work.
Sonocent Ltd. - Sep 14 2011 at 2:38pm Copy Link
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K X I've been using Audio Notetaker off and on since last fall, but really only this week did it occur to me that I could use it for language learning and transcribing some mp3 lessons I had downloading. Up till now I had used it for other sorts of recordings, other podcasts I needed to take notes for.

@ Eddie Tex

I'm starting to catch on to why in a lot of Bits threads one of the first questions is "Does this program support Unicode?" now that I'm trying to input languages other than English.

@ Eddie and @ Dave

Last night when I tried PopChar with Audio Notetaker, it didn't work. Today it does! And I have no idea what I might be doing differently, but I wanted to share the good news.
Sep 14 2011 at 8:13pm Copy Link
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M M Unable to pay with a credit card, using any of my private email addresses, because they are free, or just might be free! That's an overkill.
Sep 14 2011 at 11:38pm Copy Link
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Dave Tucker @M M

Unfortunately that's a policy of ShareIt who do our electronic processing and delivery. If you send me an email then I will try to work something out.
Sonocent Ltd. - Sep 15 2011 at 1:38am Copy Link
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Petr I am creating an Audio Book, have a high quality studio microphone, am wondering about Audo Notetaker's ability to "clean" or "filter" background noises from my recordings? For example, the hum from my PC's fan, occasional noise from outside my recording area... I need the ability to filter or edit such noises out. Is what I describe available? If yes, how? Thank you.
May 27 2013 at 8:34am Copy Link
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Michael R. Let's say I have a recording r1, import it into AN and do all these nice things like splitting it, add a text and some pictures around it.
Later I find a nice program, which can do some filtering, e.g. noise removal or add some background-music to my speach (r2).

Can I exchange this new file r2 (with the exact same length and the same infos at the same positions) with my former record r1 without having to do all this splitting, ... again?
May 27 2013 at 10:22pm Copy Link
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Dave Tucker @Petr
Audio Notetaker does have a noise cancellation feature, such as one you have described. However, it is a playback mode and only affects the audio as it is being played within Audio Notetaker. Currently you cannot export audio with the noise cancellation effect applied.

@Michael R.

Yes it is possible to swap two files in this manner using the 'Linked Audio' setting, although it's a bit of a hack and not anything we've publicised! I can create a knowledge base article for you and put it on our website if you'd like, else you could download a trial and see if you can work out how to do it yourself.
Sonocent Ltd. - May 29 2013 at 2:02am Copy Link
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Joyce Dias Can I import MP3s into the software of previously downloaded talks and review using this software?
May 30 2013 at 12:21pm Copy Link
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Dave Tucker @Joyce Dias

Absolutely! We support a wide variety of audio formats, including MP3, and even have an audio file manager to help you organise all your files.
Sonocent Ltd. - May 30 2013 at 12:28pm Copy Link
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Gary Carson If I pay for one license with this discount, can I install AN on two computers?

Also, I know AN is designed to be used with voice files, but can I import, say, a music file (MP3 or WAV) in order to use AN as a sound file archive?

Thanks
May 30 2013 at 1:25pm Copy Link
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Dave Tucker Yes, you can activate the software on two computers owned by you.

Of course there is nothing stopping you importing music files, but the chunking wont work in the same way that it does with speech files.
Sonocent Ltd. - May 30 2013 at 1:40pm Copy Link
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Faisal Humayun With the following use case:

I've a number of audiobooks (ranging 4-8 hrs average playtime) from which I'd like to extract certain sound bytes to use in presentations.

What I've done:

I downloaded the trial and the program appears to be very competent in delivering its promise for annotation-friendly sound chunks . However, I don't see a way to skip ahead/behind in a time scale in order to seek out and bookmark the portions of interest conveniently.

Question: Does the program offer users a convenient way to seek into certain time frames/scales in order to make hunting down / highlighting sections of interest easier? (6 hours of recorded audio is pages upon pages of braille styled chunks to wade/scroll through ).

Minor Question: Is it usual for the program to start with a delay (usually 30-45 seconds)? (I've fairly decent PC hardware specs).
May 31 2013 at 1:28am Copy Link
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Dave Tucker Hi Faisai,

It sounds like you want to use our 'zoom out' button in order to change the scale that you look at your audio. It's the magnifying glass icon at the top right of the audio pane. You can also change your audio scales in options (system - options) including the scale when you zoom out. You probably will have noticed that we display how far through your audio you are in the bottom right of the screen too.

As for the delay on start-up, this is a known problem and we are working to reduce it as well as to add a splash screen.
Sonocent Ltd. - May 31 2013 at 2:15am Copy Link
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K X The list of platforms above shows Vista as the minimum requirement, but the Sonocent website says that it should run on XP.

http://support.sonocent.c...windows-pc
May 31 2013 at 12:41pm Copy Link
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Dave Tucker Hi. This is because the 'output' recording mode doesn't work on XP. Rather than complicate things and add exceptions we just didn't feature it on the list above. Otherwise the software runs fine on XP (you can download a trial to test if you have any doubts!).
Sonocent Ltd. - May 31 2013 at 1:59pm Copy Link
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Gary Carson Sonocent

I've been trying to figure out why I can't select any of the record options other than Mike Only and Record A Presentation on my XP machine for almost thirty minutes now. If AN has features that don't work on particular operating systems, don't you think you should specify those exceptions up front?
May 31 2013 at 2:33pm Copy Link
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Dave Tucker Hi Gary,

I can appreciate your frustration. This is the reason we didn't list XP under the list of compatible operating systems, as noted above, and offer a free trial. This was a choice that we made in order to make life simpler, but I am sorry if you found this misleading. If you would like to continue this dialogue please email support (at) sonocent (dot) com.
Sonocent Ltd. - May 31 2013 at 2:45pm Copy Link
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Faisal Humayun Hi Dave,
Thanks for your prompt and informative reply. I did try the suggestions and it did help some. There's a good deal of learning to do here (and I really liked the web site/ support videos). Good things are happening here, and I'm convinced about this as a diamond in the rough. For the price point, and the value, I believe it would be proper to support your efforts.

PS - I look forward to a release which launches quicker (a whopping 2 minutes to launch today).
May 31 2013 at 3:28pm Copy Link
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TESS273 Hi Dave,

Audio Notetaker doesn't support Korean language. Can you fix the problem while typing Korean language?

Thanks.
May 31 2013 at 4:17pm Copy Link
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Gary Carson Dave,

Thanks for the reply. It isn't that big of a deal not being able to record from the computer. I probably wouldn't have used that capability much anyway. It would have saved some pointless troubleshooting, though, if the exception had been listed more prominently somewhere.

Everything else seems to work fine. Live recording, importing from recorders (I've tried two of my recorders so far and AN recognized them both), navigation, annotating--it all works great. I'm really impressed with the capability to write text notes and transcribe recordings while the audio is playing. I haven't had any latency problems at all.

I have a question about transcription, though. Is there a keyboard shortcut I can use to resume the playback while I'm in the text editor? Hitting the ENTER key to return to the audio pane and then hitting the space bar to start playing the next chunk gets kind of irritating after a while.

All in all, AN looks like a great program and I think I'll be getting a lot of use out of it.
May 31 2013 at 4:40pm Copy Link
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Dave Tucker @faisal

We will be fixing the problem, although I've never heard of anyone having to wait 2 minutes! Out of interest, what operating system are you using? Also, you say some really nice things. Please do email us at our support address to let us know how you're getting on; we love to get feedback from users.

@TESS273

I'm sorry that you are finding that Audio Notetaker doesn't support Korean. We use a standard text box and I just tried it with typing Japanese in Windows 7 and that works fine so I'm not sure why you are experiencing a problem.

@Gary

That's good to hear :). Yes, we do have shortcuts to control the audio whilst in the text pane which you can find in the help file. Play/pause is Ctrl+space and a new section is F12. You should also read about 'pause mode' (next to the speed control) which was added to aid manual transcription. If you have any questions or feedback, do get in touch.
Sonocent Ltd. - May 31 2013 at 4:54pm Copy Link
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TESS273 Dave,

Korean letter is composed of two(Consonant+Vowel) or three(Consonant+Vowel+Conconant) characters. This is the biggest difference that distinguish it from other letters.

https://dl.dropboxusercon...h43_32.mp4

You can see that letters after the letter consist of three characters is broken.

Thanks.
May 31 2013 at 5:51pm Copy Link
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Faisal Humayun Will do so very happily Dave,
I've actually messaged supportsonocent.com with a screencast of the issue, along with the licensing trouble I've experienced.
May 31 2013 at 8:42pm Copy Link
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Con Fusia impressive software. very effective in being able to organize and isolate audio information. brilliant for language learning. i don't care for the white border background but that is a minor quibble. thanks.
May 31 2013 at 11:37pm Copy Link
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mix624 Hi,

1
I downloaded the trial before and wanted to use some recorded skype (mp3) calls and ordinary landline phone recordings (Wav). I had problem getting my audios inside the software and I got the impression that it isnt really possible; I have to record using the software and it is only possible to make notes then ?

2
I would basically need to make audio notes from those phonecalls that are a few parapraphs big OR even transcribe the whole 1 hour phonecalls that I regularily make. The reason I didnt even care to try and figure out how it works was the price which said £95 !

What I really needed initially was a better way to catalogue the files so I know what each recording contains and at what minute since they are so long. Now it is just long numbered list OR date and time stamps...Hope tihs could be easily done with this software.

3
Is it also easy to disconnect the audio file from the software file format ? In other words, can I easily just turn the file into an mp3 only ? Maybe I will upload it to soundcloud etc...

4
What does major updates cost generally OR what did the last major updates cost for customers who already purchased earlier ?
Dec 12 2013 at 6:10am Copy Link
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Dave Tucker Good Afternoon,

Thanks for the questions.
You have always been able to import audio into Audio Notetaker in most of the common formats, mp3 and wav included, as well as wma, m4a etc. If you do find a particular file won't open then you just need to contact us at supportsonocent.com and we will try and help.

With out Windows version there is an extensive file manager to help keep your files organised, you can tag your files with Title, Topic, Speaker and of course date and time; this allows you to easily locate a particular file.

You can export your audio in a number of ways. You can export everything to an album or direct to iTunes or you can select specific chunks of audio and export to a single file where you can choose what format to export in. In the latest Windows version you can even export your Images along with your audio as a video file.

The last major upgrade from Windows version2 to version 3 was free to all existing users, however it is likely that the upgrade to version 4 will be a paid for upgrade. But we have no plans for a version 4 release any time soon! All minor, incremental upgrades are free.

If you have any additional questions then please let me know, you can always download the free 30 day trial from our website to try the software first, it's fully featured and allows you to view any files you have created after the trial expires.

Thanks

David Keating
Customer Support Manager
Sonocent Ltd. - Dec 12 2013 at 6:56am Copy Link
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tech club Hello, I just downloaded the trial version, seems like a pretty neat idea. I take a lot of notes form audiobooks, but also watch a ton of video tutorials.

a) I'm wondering if video importing (flv, mkv, mp4, wmv, etc) will be supported in a near or future version?

I'm thinking that the app could import the audio track from a video file, and able to sync the visual representation map of the audio with the playing position of the video (with either an internal or external video player, hopefully with one like VLC player, for the playback speed support and other feats.)

b) As for the current version, how can I batch import an audio book which each chapter is a different track, so when imported by the app, each new section or audio track is separated by a section break? Is it possible to re-order section breaks, in case an track is imported in the wrong order?

Also for the current version as suggestions,
c) add a selection loop playback,
d) and hopefully the playback speed limit could be increased above 2.4x like 3.5x....

Thanks!
Dec 12 2013 at 1:27pm Copy Link
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TESS273 @Sonocent,

I reported bugs at last deal's comments, but you neither answered nor fixed bugs. I've just installed recent version and tested again. Nothing changed.

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Korean letter is composed of two(Consonant+Vowel) or three(Consonant+Vowel+Conconant) characters. This is the biggest difference that distinguishes it from other letters.

https://dl.dropboxusercon...h43_32.mp4

You can see that letters after the letter consists of three characters are broken.

Thanks.
Dec 12 2013 at 8:39pm Copy Link
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Greg What speech to text app do you recommend, to work with this app? Just getting the trial now to start testing the SW as a next step. Thx
Dec 13 2013 at 12:22am Copy Link
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VLM Is this application integrated in any way with the Nuance speech products, e.g., Dragon NaturallySpeaking?
Dec 13 2013 at 12:23am Copy Link
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Dave Tucker Thanks for the ideas on new features - I've added them to our list!
Lots of people have asked for video support, but there is nothing in development as yet.

You can batch import audio files - just select multiple audio files when you import; they will be imported in time and date order with each file in it's own section.

Audio Notetaker doesn't have any inbuilt Speech to Text at the moment - You can use Windows own tool as well as Dragon to dictate into our Text and Reference Panes. We do have inbuilt Text to Speech so you can have your notes read out from within the application.

Thanks

David
Sonocent Ltd. - Dec 13 2013 at 2:30am Copy Link
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TESS273 You've skipped my question again. I think 'Audio Notetaker' is very useful but your support is not good as your product.

Do you think I sabotage your product? I've purchased about 30 programs through BitsDuJours. Before buying a product, I wanted to clarify it. If you promised to fix bugs, I was going to buy it. But you skipped my question.

Anyway thanks.
Dec 13 2013 at 5:21am Copy Link
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mix624 I just bought it and it was much easier to understand after having bought it and import audio worked much easier.

Probably because I took the time to look at the interactive help file. I think I misunderstood before, I tried to transcribe every bar and I assumed that every bar would have a graphical representation in the text field.

It is really a great help to just being able to mark interresting parts with the color I want and make short notes of it so I know what it is about. Plus the quick jumping here and there. Very useful...
Dec 13 2013 at 5:30am Copy Link
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Dave Tucker TESS273 I have passed your question on to our development team to see if there is a way Audio Notetaker can support Korean characters. As soon as I know something I will let you know - If you would like to send me an email at supportsonocent.com then I can reply direct.

Regards

David
Sonocent Ltd. - Dec 13 2013 at 5:59am Copy Link
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Charles Beauchamp Your website is an excellent example of what all software vendors should have to describe their program in great detail so prospective buyers can make more informed decisions about whether to purchase software.

This sale is also an example of the value of bitsdujour. I personally would have never "found" this software without bitsdujour.
Dec 13 2013 at 7:16am Copy Link
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tech club Hi Dave,

Besides the difference of space used by .ran vs .ant files (seems like .ran is more like a container that creates a copy of the audio file inside of it, and .ant is more like a small index file), are there any features not available or disadvantages when unsing .ant vs .ran files?

thanks again
Dec 13 2013 at 8:40am Copy Link
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Dave Tucker Hi tech club,

.ant is actually just the format for files produced in v1 of the software! Your are right in that with .ran files the audio is embedded, whereas with .ant files the audio was merely referenced.

However, there is a setting within the current version of Audio Notetaker for this option. We refer to it as 'embedded' vs 'linked' audio. You can find out more here http://support.sonocent.c...dded-audio.

Essentially, linked will give you smaller file sizes but you need to have the audio file on your computer. Delete it and you've lost your audio!

I hope that helps,

Dave
Sonocent Ltd. - Dec 13 2013 at 8:52am Copy Link
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tech club Just purchased the app, thanks! =)
Dec 13 2013 at 9:17am Copy Link
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TESS273 @Sonocent,

I've just purchased. Please let me know about supporting Korean letters. Thanks.

Best regards,
Tess273
Dec 13 2013 at 2:49pm Copy Link
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D Rogers This software is amazing. Developers should be applauded for the idea and the high quality of this product. I have hundreds of audio lectures that never get utilized because it is too time consuming to try to find clips of audio that are buried within the file. This software solves that problem, allowing me to visualize, index, take notes, find clips and move clips around. Bravo!
Dec 13 2013 at 5:36pm Copy Link
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Nico Westerdale Great News! Sonocent Ltd. has agreed to extend this deal for another day - Enjoy!
BitsDuJour Admin - Dec 14 2013 at 12:11am Copy Link
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Dave Tucker TESS273

Hello, we have looked into the problem with Korean characters in Audio Notetaker; unfortunately it is a know problem with Microsofts code, that is utilised within Audio Notetaker. It was reported to Microsoft back in 2009 but is yet to be fixed. We will add support to our development log but we do not know if there will be a solution.

Regards David
Sonocent Ltd. - Dec 16 2013 at 2:10am Copy Link
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