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Harald Vogel I'm already a registerd user of TCC/LE 12. Will there also be a discount on the upgrade to TCC/LE 13 oder for the upgrade to TakeCommand? Thanks.
Feb 20 2012 at 2:04am Copy Link
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Exolon Miner @Harald Vogel

TCC/LE is free, so there is no fee upgrading to TCC/LE 13.

In case you are talking about TCMD/LE. Rex decided to discontinue TCMD/LE and give the LE users a free upgrade to the full version, so there should be no payed upgrade from TCMD/LE to TCMD, too.

@Rex glad to see Take Command at bits. Hope your sells will go well.
Feb 20 2012 at 4:34am Copy Link
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Harald Vogel @Exolon Miner

Sorry for the confusion. I meant TCMD/LE. I'm a registered user of Version 12 of TCMD/LE and as I understand it (I just visited the website and didn't know that until I heard if from you) only Version 13 users got a free upgrade.

Please tell me if I'm wrong but I would be eligible for an upgrade to V13 of Take Command for 49,95 like the offered price here anyway. And so I would like to know if there will be also a discount for upgrading.

Thanks.
Feb 20 2012 at 5:18am Copy Link
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Rex Conn We sent free upgrades to the full Take Command v13 last November, to all Take Command/LE users. (We had already sent free Take Command/LE v13 upgrades to the registered v12 Take Command/LE users.)

If you didn't receive your Take Command v13 upgrade (spam folder?), email us at supportjpsoft.com.
JP Software - Feb 20 2012 at 6:51am Copy Link
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Michael R. I like the possibility to debug a batch-file.

Does TakeCommand allow to have a kind-of-CMD-subset-mode. So it would be possible to allow the creation and debugging of pure CMD-commands which would also run on computers without TakeCommand?
Feb 21 2012 at 2:27am Copy Link
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a a What support does it have for organising/running batch files/scripts ?

For example, can I drag and drop batch files to the toolbar to create toolbar buttons for each batch file, which will run when I click the button ?

Can I assign keyboard shortcuts to batch files ?

I can see me creating lots of batch files/scripts for various tasks, and I'm wondering how TC will help me to organise/group/run them ?
Feb 21 2012 at 2:50am Copy Link
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Rex Conn Yes, the Take Command scripting language is a superset of CMD, so you can use the batch editor / debugger to create and debug CMD-compatible batch files that will run on any Windows system.
JP Software - Feb 21 2012 at 4:52am Copy Link
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Rex Conn Yes, you can create buttons on the tabbed toolbar to run individual batch files. (Up to 50 buttons on each of up to 20 toolbar tabs, which can be organized and named however you like.)

TC doesn't currently support simply dropping a batch file on the toolbar to create a button -- you would right-click on the toolbar to open the button creation dialog.

You can create "key aliases" to invoke batch files with a single keystroke (either executing them immediately or wait for additional arguments).
JP Software - Feb 21 2012 at 4:58am Copy Link
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marek jedlinski Is the pure command-line version still included? Fingers crossed :)
Feb 21 2012 at 1:49pm Copy Link
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Rex Conn Yes. There are three components in Take Command:

1) The command-line interpreter (TCC, formerly called 4NT)

2) The IDE (batch file editor and debugger)

3) The tabbed windowing environment (Take Command)

You can run them independently or have Take Command run TCC and the IDE.
JP Software - Feb 21 2012 at 2:25pm Copy Link
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marek jedlinski Wonderful, thank you!
Feb 21 2012 at 2:46pm Copy Link
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Richard Blake Just read your license, focusing my attention on install limits. I bike to work; carrying a laptop back and forth is not an option, so I need to install on two PCs to get what laptop users get from one. You provide that, as do many other software titles. Never before have I seen the restriction that the computers must normally be kept at separate locations and "they are never used simultaneously except during active transfer of files between them". (Perhaps that last point should pertain to simultaneous use of the installed TC, rather than simultaneous use of the computers on which the product is installed.) But I keep two PCs at work and two at home: to install on all four I require two licenses. On the Volume Pricing page I see that I would pay "only" $180 rather than $200 (or $100 through the BdJ offer). But that is identical to the cost for a company to provide the software to two individual users (a pair of computers for each). Doesn't look very compelling to this single user. I guess I'll survive on cmd.exe, Windows PowerShell, gawk and similarly priced offerings.
Feb 22 2012 at 7:28pm Copy Link
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Rex Conn There isn't any restriction on the locations of the machines (see http://jpsoft.com/license.html). There is a restriction on using a single license simultaneously on multiple active machines; the intent isn't to treat a single license as a multi-system license for use by multiple users. A single-system Take Command license does allow activating up to three machines -- see the Policy tab on this page. (I would prefer to only pay for a single copy of Windows to install on all my systems, but Microsoft understandably disagrees!)

Take Command is intended for developers, administrators, and power users. If your needs are are simple enough to be satisfied by CMD, then there's probably no compelling reason for you to upgrade to Take Command.
JP Software - Feb 22 2012 at 7:51pm Copy Link
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Monte Jones We we be able to upgrade V 11 to current for a 50% discount a well?
Feb 23 2012 at 12:24am Copy Link
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Avi S Does TC support the full range of powershell commands (most importantly, the ability to perform COM automation from the command line and within scripts, and the ability to perform regular expression analysis on the command line)?
Feb 23 2012 at 1:57am Copy Link
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Rex Conn This promotion is only for new copies, not for upgrades. However, we do currently have a $10 discount for upgrade copies (reducing the total to $39.95 for an upgrade) to celebrate our new web site; use the coupon code "Newsite".
JP Software - Feb 23 2012 at 4:43am Copy Link
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Rex Conn The TCC command processor component of Take Command has a large (but not identical) overlap with the PowerShell feature set. (Though most of the PowerShell features require additional .net programming.) Not sure what you're looking for with the COM automation -- to control Take Command or to control other apps? TCC has a COM interface to control it (though it's not widely used as there are generally easier ways to do it). To control other apps you'd probably use a bit of script with one of the supported languages (Perl, Python, REXX, Tcl, Ruby, VBScript, Javascript, or any Active Scripting language).

Regarding regular expressions -- Take Command supports regular expressions for file and directory names (for example, in the internal commands like COPY, DEL, DIR, etc.), text searching (in the FFIND, LIST, and VIEW internal commands, or when searching the scrollback buffers of the tab windows), conditional tests (DO, FOR, IF, IFF, etc.), searching popup windows (filename completion, command and directory history), and in several of the internal variable functions. (If there's a particular RE usage you're looking for that I haven't mentioned, let me know.)
JP Software - Feb 23 2012 at 4:59am Copy Link
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Rex Conn We haven't had any requests for right-to-left language support before, so we haven't spent any time looking at it. (We have sold a lot of copies in Israel, but presumably they're either using Take Command in English, or the right-to-left support is already working.)

If you have problems with RTL languages, let us know. We don't have any in-house expertise, but we should be able to figure it out with a little help from the users (as we've done with the DBCS languages).
JP Software - Feb 23 2012 at 5:06am Copy Link
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Avi S Hi Rex,
Thank you for your reply.
1] I'm thrilled to hear about the ability to use COM automation to control TCC. Where is this documented (I didn't see it in the help file)?
2] However, I was really interested in using COM automation to control MS Office apps and Adobe Acrobat, which I do from within powershell scripts, and even from the powershell command line. I notice that on your site (http://jpsoft.com/blogs/2...owershell/) you indicate that you would be able to integrate TCC functionality into powershell as a plugin - that is something that I would be very interested in using! Please let all of us BDJ users know whether you would be able to implement this soon.
3] In terms of workflow within TCC, I'm puzzled by one seemingly simple action that I am having a hard time streamlining. I'd like to use the integrate GUI browser to navigate to a file, and then to take that file from the "list view" and paste its full path on the command line. I can use the mouse to drag the file to the command box to accomplish this. However, in order to do this efficiently, I'd like to use the keyboard - ideally, I'd like to have one keystroke that would take the selected file in the list view and paste it onto the command line. But I can't find any way to do this. Although TCC has the ability to assign keystrokes to various copy+paste actions, there is no option to do so from list view to command prompt. Worse, the keyboard shortcuts for "copy" do not work in list view - pressing ctrl-ins etc. copies text in the command prompt window; however, I cannot use the keyboard shortcut to copy the file from list view and paste it on the command prompt. I'd really like to see a streamlined option for this type of operation (maybe I can do it via COM automation of TCC?)
4] As you have seen, I work with files in multiple languages, and one of the big advantages of powershell for me is its support of UTF-8 and its ability to convert between formats. On the otherhand, as far as I can tell, TCC only works with the basic code pages of DOS; I could not even go into "cmd /u" without losing TCC support. So, that's another reason that I'd really like to see TCC support within powershell.
5] Regex support - Thanks for the summary of regex options in TC. I've tried it out and it is very flexible and impressive.
Feb 23 2012 at 5:21am Copy Link
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Rex Conn Hi Avi:
Detailed support questions like this are best handled in our (very active) support forums (http://jpsoft.com/forums), where other users can contribute and benefit from the discussions.
1) See the SCRIPT command in the help.
2) The proposed TCC plugin for PowerShell has languished due to a general lack of interest, though it could certainly be revived if enough users ask for it. (Submit a feature request through the orange Feedback tab on the left side of the jpsoft.com web pages.)
3) There isn't currently any way to retrieve the current List View selection and paste it to the command line using the keyboard only. (Though it is possible to retrieve the selection in the Folder View -- see %_TCFOLDER.) It wouldn't be hard to do; I'll add it to the suggestion list.
4) TCC and Take Comamnd are native Unicode, and TCC supports input & output in both ASCII and Unicode (unlike CMD, which only has a Unicode output option and cannot handle things like Unicode batch files). TCC has a /U startup option (to send redirected output as Unicode). (This option can also be toggled on & off from the command line.) There is also some support for UTF-8 input files, specifically in the FFIND and LIST commands.
JP Software - Feb 23 2012 at 6:25am Copy Link
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Avi S Hi Rex,
Thanks for the information. There's no question that TCC is an indispensable utilty (why hadn't I heard of it before?!), and your willingness to respond to user requests and to provide details here on the forum clinches it. I've just purchased the product here on BDJ.
- Avi
Feb 23 2012 at 6:36am Copy Link
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Rex Conn Hi Avi:
It's been hard to find ways to get the word out about Take Command / TCC -- when you're the only player in the market, people don't even know that the market exists, so it never occurs to anyone to search for the product!
But if all of our users tell 10 of their friends, and they each tell 10 of their friends ... :-)
JP Software - Feb 23 2012 at 6:50am Copy Link
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Avi S Hi Rex,
I have registered on your site and I have attempted to post further questions on the forum there, however when I log in your site indicates that I do not have sufficient privileges to post. Not sure why that is happening?
In any case, then, I'll continue to follow up here - I was thrilled to hear that TCC can format output as Unicode or UTF-8. Within the TCC options, I found a checkbox for unicode output, and checking it did indeed result in correctly formatted Unicode-16 output. Ideally, though, I'd like to take advantage of the UTF-8 option; however, I don't see any options for that on the options screen. Is there a way to specify the /U8 option as a default parameter for TCC to use when launching its command windows?
Thanks,
Avi
Feb 23 2012 at 6:52am Copy Link
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Rex Conn Hi Avi:
The support forum is moderated -- we average over 800 attempted spammer registrations every day, so new user registrations have to be approved by a moderator before they can post. Your registration has been approved, so you can now post in any of the forums. (There is no further moderation once you've been approved.)
JP Software - Feb 23 2012 at 7:22am Copy Link
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peter hayes G'Day,

Could this be installed (and registered/activated/licenced) on a thumb drive to enable portable use on multiple machines (as an administrator for multiple backend servers) at several remotely located sites?
Feb 23 2012 at 11:34am Copy Link
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Rex Conn Yes, you can install and activate Take Command on a thumb drive and move it among different machines. (This feature is new to Take Command v13.)
JP Software - Feb 23 2012 at 11:49am Copy Link
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peter hayes G'Day,

Great, off to buy now, looking forward to using this, should make life that little bit easier :-)
Feb 23 2012 at 12:33pm Copy Link
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Emil Kucera Hello to Rex from a happy user (since the 4DOS versions of this great program). Anybody working with command line without it should RUSH in and take advantage of the deal!
Hope everybody tells 10+ friends about it :-)
Regards Emil
Feb 23 2012 at 12:41pm Copy Link
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Rex Conn And I didn't even have to pay Emil to say that ... :-)
JP Software - Feb 23 2012 at 3:33pm Copy Link
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Steven Avery Hi,

I bought a lighter-weight program PowerCmd, from Bits years ago, and it has been great. This one is a bit more techie, with many more features, I am not sure I have a use, but I will say that command.com really needs a shell for cut and paste, proper history and review, etc, when used for ... almost anything but the most trivial requests.

Steven
Feb 23 2012 at 5:54pm Copy Link
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Avi S Hi Steven,
I also bought PowerCmd from BDJ some time ago, and I've bought TC now. TC is a far, far more advanced program than PowerCmd, and its advantages over PowerCmd numbers in the hundreds, if not the thousands.
I'll just note a few specific ones that I find extremely important:
- TC is blazingly fast, much faster than command.com! In contrast, PowerCmd is significantly slower than command.com, especially when it comes to traversing directories with thousands of files, or when performing "dir" operations on such directories.
- TC adds a very sophisticated set of additional commands for scripting and processing. Here I'll suffice by noting the ability to work with regular expressions directly on the command line.
For instance, if I want to find all files that are over 20 characters in length, I can do this directly like this:
dir "::.{20}"
- Finally, TC has an extremely active forum, and it is under constant development. I've already found that queries on the forum are answered within minutes, and the developers are adding new features in response to user input on a regular basis. In contrast, with PowerCmd I ran into a various serious bug regarding the way it handles shell commands run from a command-line utility. I corresponded with the guys at PowerCmd and sent them a full set of programs (with source code) to reproduce the problem. Although they expressed interest in looking into it, months have gone by, and I haven't seen any change. The developers are presumably involved in other projects.
Feb 23 2012 at 6:22pm Copy Link
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Rex Conn PowerCmd covers maybe 1% of the Take Command feature set. We have a comparison table on our web site at:

http://jpsoft.com/compari...ndows.html

that compares Take Command, Console2, PromptPal, and PowerCmd.
JP Software - Feb 23 2012 at 7:06pm Copy Link
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Gonzo Well, I was planning to stop buying software until next month (mainly due to my current economy) but BDJ strikes again... Not sure if I should be happy or simply cry...
I never heard of this app before, though I bought and used PowerCmd; however after checking the features set as well as the comments here, despite the price being high for me I decided to buy this.

Thanks JP Software and BDJ!
Feb 23 2012 at 9:05pm Copy Link
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Steven Avery Hi Folks,

And I have no doubt that for the person doing lots of command line programming or actions, Take Command is the way to go. Tabs, more flexibility, speed, lots of programming power, etc.

Just for people like myself, whose programming is more database and minicomputer and this and that, Windows command line usage is only occasional and light. (I am more concerned with OCL and CL on the iSeries). An FTP here, a ping there, some other specials now and then, usually done with Powercmd. So the expense is hard to justify.

The blurb says:

"If you're into batch file programming..."

And, so far, I am not. If that changes, I know where to look !

Shalom,
Steven Avery
Feb 23 2012 at 9:07pm Copy Link
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Avi S @Steven,
You're certainly entitled to do what you want, but I have to stress that the benefits of Take Command are extremely significant for the non-programming power user as well.

Let's just take the example of a directory with several thousand files. In PowerCmd, just doing a "cd" into that directory can freeze the application for half a minute, and attempting a filename completion can freeze the system for even more time. [When I contacted PowerCmd about this, they suggested that I reorganize my directory structure to avoid having so many files in one directory]
TC, on the other hand, provides instant "cd" access to such directories, *and* instant autocompletion - I just tried this now - in a directory with many thousands of files, typing one letter and hitting tab *instantly* brought up the first item, and hitting tab again brought the next entry, etc.
For me, the ability to quickly and efficiently navigate my file system is a clincher in and of itself. PowerCmd just can't keep up.
Similarly with regard to regular expressions - regular expressions do not require programming skills; they are tools that can be used by all power users, and they provide indispensable precision in specification of data and filtering of files. I gave one example above - searching for filenames of a certain length. Another real-world example would be searching for all filenames that have a five-digit code somewhere in the filename. Again, for the non-programmer who wants to yield this power at the command line, TC is well worth the money.
Feb 23 2012 at 9:21pm Copy Link
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Steven Avery Hi Folks,

Ironically, I recently had a recursive (created from my error) directory with many thousands of entries that i had to delete, filling up a disk. And it could not be done by normal methods.

In that case I had to pass by some pay tools and ended up with Deep Remove from Codeplex, open source, which worked perfectly. Maybe Take Command would have worked, but I hope to never have to find out again :) .

As for searching, I probably would be using Everything, Locate or one of the File managers .... the number of times I have to drop down to command line power .. it does not really happen. Some of those tools are pretty sophisticated for normal use.

When I find myself doing the command line programming, I will know where to go. I always like the best tool for the job.

And I recommend just about everybody have some shell tool.

I could easily turn around in a few months and be searching for the next discount with bated breath. However, lets be reasonable, a lot of folks simply do not do much at the command line, even semi-tech users. And $50 is a spot of scratch for possibilities or what may happen next moth.

Steven
Feb 23 2012 at 9:49pm Copy Link
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Michael R. Bought it... Thanks for the answer above. But what I meant was, it would be great to be able to (temporarily - of course) switch TakeCommand in a kind of CMD-subset-mode, so it would not understand the additional TakeCommand-commands and options. So when the batch-file runs fine after debugging, this would result in a batch-file, which could be run also on systems without TakeCommand.

Is there a command (or another quick way) to let the list-view-window display exactly the directory I am currently in inside the console-window? This would be very usefull...
Feb 23 2012 at 10:05pm Copy Link
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Rex Conn Yes, you can configure the List View / Folder View windows to follow your current TCC tab window session. This is commonly requested by new TC users, but they almost invariably stop doing it after a short time because it has some disadvantages (like rendering the drag & drop between the view windows and the tab windows pointless.

But if you really want to do it, look in the help under "Take Command and TCC Integration". You just need to create an alias for CD (or a PRE_INPUT alias) that includes the "CDD /T ..." option. There have been several discussions on our support forums (http://jpsoft.com/forums) on the different ways to do it.
JP Software - Feb 23 2012 at 10:28pm Copy Link
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Michael R. Thanks again for the fast answer.

Instead of always following the current directory in the command-tab, I thought about entering a command in case that I need to do something with this directory in a visual way, e.g. 'vis'.

In my case, I was in the command-window inside a directory and had an open explorer window. Now I wanted to drag and drop a file from this to the directory in the command-window. Here, when entering the short command (e.g. 'vis') would be useful: The list-window would change to the desired directory and I could drag & drop the files into it...

Just an idea...
Feb 23 2012 at 11:58pm Copy Link
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Rex Conn "Is there a way to find out from inside a batch-file if the current interpreter is CMD or TakeCommand?"

You can test for one of the TCC internal variables or functions. For example:

if "%_4ver" != "" goto take_command

if %@eval[2+2] == 4 goto take_command

The first one (_4VER) is unlikely to be in your environment when running CMD, but it is barely possible.

The second example will never be true in CMD.
JP Software - Feb 24 2012 at 5:33am Copy Link
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Tomasz Lisowski As far, as I can see, you have a pretty fast release cycle:
14.02 released Sep 3, 2012
14.01 released Aug 14, 2012
14.0 released Jun 29, 2012
13.04 released Mar 7, 2012
12.10 released Mar 21, 2011
13.0 released Sep 10, 2011
12.11 released Jun 10, 2011
12.10 released Mar 21, 2011
12.01 released Jan 6, 2011
12.0 released Oct 27, 2010
It looks, like you release up to 3-4 versions per major version. This means, that the lifetime of version 14.x is coming to an end, and you are about to release version 15 soon. Am I correct ? :-)
Nov 20 2012 at 7:04am Copy Link
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Roger Thomasson @ Tomasz

We don't expect our vendors to publicly unveil their release schedule.
BitsDuJour Admin - Nov 20 2012 at 7:41am Copy Link
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Tomasz Lisowski I know, but I also don't expect them to deviate significantly from their release schedule as seen through historical data (above).
12.0 - 13.0 - 11 months (4 releases)
13.0 - 14.0 - 9 months (2 releases)
For version 14.x series we have already 3 releases

If this trend is kept, this might easily indicate, that the release of version 15.x is due in a month or two at the latest.

I fully accept the policy as specified for this deal, but simply I would be quite disappointed, if I bought this deal only to learn, that the free upgrade right within the 14.x series is void due to the next version released by the vendor being a major one.

This software is relatively expensive for someone like me, who would rather occasionally use it, but I think I might go for it, if the price paid would include a few months of free updates. That's what I want to learn and it is up to the vendor to decide, if I should be given any response :-)
Nov 20 2012 at 9:56am Copy Link
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Roberto few companies give a 90 day unconditional money-back guarantee.

I'm agree about this is not cheap for ocasional use, but is the best of his class.

Just want to suscribe here :-)
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a a I'm with Tomasz on this. Less than 12 months is a very short period for major updates, particularly compared to some of the other software I use which have a more reasonable ~3 year period with regular updates in-between.

This is best-in-class software, and the author is responsive, but having to pay another $50 in a few months to get v15.x means this deal loses some of its appeal.
Nov 20 2012 at 11:07am Copy Link
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Tomasz Lisowski Indeed, the 90 day unconditional money-back guarantee is quite unusual and is a big plus about the vendor.

I have used the free TCC/LE version to create some scripts in the past, and I admit it woud be nice to get the full development environment in this deal.

If I understand it correctly, if version 15 comes out within 90 days, I could use the money-back guarantee to get a refund and then stay with the free TCC/LE as I did so far. Of course, the best news we could hear from the vendor would be that buying this deal would entitle to a free upgrade to the 15.x series :-) However, looking at the Policy, it is rather unlikely ... Nevertheless, I still reserve the right to hope for impossible :-D
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Roberto I hope this helps, from the FAQ:

2. If I buy a key for a JP Software product, do I get free upgrades forever?

No -- though if you order within 60 days of our releasing a major update you will get the new version free.

Minor releases are free -- these are mainly compatibility and bug fixes.

We try to price major upgrades lower than most software companies -- upgrades are generally less than 50% of the original price.

You can purchase an annual support contract when you purchase one of our products -- in addition to support benefits, you will receive free upgrades to all new versions released during your support period.
Nov 20 2012 at 1:24pm Copy Link
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Rex Conn 15.0 is probably 6 months away.

However, as of v14, we have a new upgrade policy -- new or upgrade orders get free updates (for any major or minor releases) for one year. After that year, you have the option of ordering an upgrade and getting another year of free updates, or staying with your current version (and optionally updating later).

Rex Conn
JP Software
JP Software - Nov 20 2012 at 2:38pm Copy Link
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Tomasz Lisowski Fantastic! Having a year of free upgrades after purchase provides a similar level of benefits regardless of whether the purchase has been made close to the new major release or shortly after it. No nasty surprises anymore, as with the "for minor updates only" scheme! :-)

Thanks for making it clear, Rex. I can see, that the Policy section has been updated accordingly. Wonderful!
Nov 20 2012 at 9:28pm Copy Link
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Rex Conn Normally, the 1 year of free updates starts from the date the activation key is created (immediately after you order). If there is some reason you cannot do your initial installation for an extended period of time, please contact us and we will adjust it accordingly.
JP Software - Nov 21 2012 at 5:25am Copy Link
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Kou K. TCC is real nice tool, But unfortunately cannot input japanese and chinese if it attached to TCMD. Anyway I must say thanks for TCC/LE.
Nov 21 2012 at 12:33pm Copy Link
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Rex Conn Take Command doesn't support wide character sets (like Japanese and Chinese); unfortunately we don't have the background to develop and support those environments. They should work in TCC and TCC/LE, and probably in the IDE / batch debugger as well (though I haven't been able to test that).
JP Software - Nov 21 2012 at 7:11pm Copy Link
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Avi S As an avid Bits du Jour follower and a relatively frequent purchaser of BDJ products, I have to say that Take Command is far and away the most useful product that I've ever purchased here.

Every element of the command prompt is enhanced way beyond its regular functionality. Here are a few use cases:

1] With a single "dir" command, I use TCC to display all new files that have been created in my Dropbox over the last three days, sorted by *creation* time (rather than modified time), while ignoring any of the irrelevant dropbox cache files.

2] With a single "ren" command, I use TCC to zero-pad all files beginning with a one digit number so that they have a 0 in front of them, while not touching any of the files that already have two digits in the prefix

3] With a one "del" command, I use TCC to delete all zero-byte files in a directory (or directory tree).

4] With a single "echo" command, I use TCC to print out a list of all removable drives plugged into the computer

5] With a single "move" command, I use TCC to "flatten" a directory structure (take all of the files from within multiple levels of subdirectories and move them all to a single directory) - this is great, for instance, for dealing with camera files which are in multiple DCIM directories, bring them all together instantly.

6] With a single "copy" command, I directly download files from ftp sites (e.g. "copy ftp://8.8.8.8/filename.txt ." will copy that file right into the filesystem). It can do this with wildcards, too.

Other ways that TCC has greatly improved command-shell life:

1] Speed! I routinely use TCC to run "dir" and other command on directories with 20,000 files or more, and it responds with split-second response time. It can even do instantaneous "autocompletion" on such directories! (Compare this to lightweight competitor PowerCmd, which takes *minutes* to "dir" such a directory, and which will freeze up for a long time when attempting an autocompletion in those circumstances).

2] Variable autocompletion. Let's say you have a folder with lots of different types of files, and you want to run a copy command on one of the .jpg files which begins with the letter A. You can simply type:
copy a*.jpg
and then press the Tab key to enter autocompletion mode, and then continue to hit "Tab" to cycle through each of the filenames which match. (Hitting Alt-F9 goes back to the mask and lets you alter the mask and start again.)

3] Direct directory switching: just type the full path name of the directory (including drive letter!) at the command line and it switches there. No need for "cd" first. And no need to switch to the drive first. I can't tell you how much this little thing has made life more efficient.

4] Back-and-forth: Often, at the command line, we go back and forth between two directories. The one letter command "-" switches back and forth between the two most recent directories.

5] Linux style copy to clipboard: use the mouse to select anything on the screen, and it's in the clipboard instantly. No need for Ctrl-C or for Edit/Mark or anything like that. (This is an option, not the default, but I love it. I can see a directory listing, just highlight one of the filenames on the listing, and then paste that into any Windows dialog. And, speaking of directory listings, Take Command can be configured to display directory listings in any custom format: e.g. with the full path for each file, or with date created instead of data modified, or in any other format defined by a regex on the command line).

6] Ctrl-Mousewheel dynamically changes font size up and down of the command shell. So if a directory listing has files rolling off the side of the screen, just just the mousewheel to make the font smaller for a few minutes.

7] Regex support in all commands

8] "Experimental" mode for all commands, in which the potential effects will be shown but not actually done. If you are writing a complex "copy" or "rename" command line, add a "/N" to the end of the command line and hit Enter. Take Command will parse the command and display a precise list of every file change that would potentially be made, without actually making any of the changes. If it's good, erase the /N, and do it for real; if it's not good, modify it as required and try again. This has saved me countless hours!

In short: Very highly recommended!
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Dmitry S The program is actually gem, but ....
So sad!
I bought the Take Command 13, here, under the prev. action, in Feb. 2012.
And after about 3 months i became the happy owner of the obsolete version (the new, 14th version has been released). To upgrade it i needed to pay the upgrade price. After 3 months?

Hope, in the next time will be more lucky.
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Tomasz Lisowski As confirmed above by Rex Conn, version 14 (being the subject of this deal) has modified license terms, enabling the licensee to upgrade for free the product during 1 year after the purchase. It does not matter anymore, if within that period a new major version comes out - you should be entitled to a free upgrade to that version too.
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a a The downside with the new upgrade policy is that you no longer get minor upgrades after 1 year (you have 15.1 and 15.2 comes out 1 year and 1 day after you bought your licence).

However, given the rapid major release cycle, the new model is preferable, assuming the release schedule doesn't change.
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Rex Conn v14 was released in July 2012, so it was actually 5 months, not 3, after the Feb 2012 BDJ offer.
JP Software - Nov 22 2012 at 7:10pm Copy Link
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Rex Conn "The downside with the new upgrade policy is that you no longer get minor upgrades after 1 year (you have 15.1 and 15.2 comes out 1 year and 1 day after you bought your licence). "

Not exactly -- first, 15.1 and 15.2 would be major updates, not minor ones. You would continue to get minor updates (15.01, 15.02, etc.) up to the release of the next major update. (15.10, 15.50, 16.0, etc.)
JP Software - Nov 22 2012 at 7:19pm Copy Link
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a a If a point release (ie. 15.x) is considered a major update, what do you call it when going from 15 to 16 ? a major major update ;D

I'm sure I can't be the only one who thinks a point release is not a major update. http://en.wikipedia.org/w...nt_release

That said, I'm glad 15.0.x releases would be free, even after 1 year. Does this mean you will release 15.0.x versions, even after 15.1.x/16.x.x has come out, to fix bugs (or at least reported bugs for that version) in the older version?
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Rex Conn JP Software has always (for the last 20+ years!) referred to any change in the tenths decimal place as a major update. We're certainly not alone in that -- look at the last few versions of Windows!

That said, we have rarely released a .10 -- and the last one (12.10) we gave away as a free update to v12 users. We expect to be doing more .10 / .20 / etc. releases in the future, but users will get those free for a year from their last update.

We have always released minor bug-fix updates as needed for a previous version, up to the point where *two* major updates have been released.
JP Software - Nov 22 2012 at 8:46pm Copy Link
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a a OK, fair enough. Good to hear about more regular .x releases, and the bug fix release policy, which seems fair.

Thanks for taking the time to personally respond to all the questions/comments here.
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Rosalind Share Just bought it.
Downloaded 64 bit

Entered registration key (Copy & Paste)

Error: The activation key xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx could not be found.

Please help asap.
Nov 23 2012 at 7:49am Copy Link
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Bertie Brummel Does TCC support Win 8?
Nov 23 2012 at 9:33am Copy Link
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Mark Johnson If I have two machines that I use regularly (although never both at the same time) would I have to buy two licenses?
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Stuart Krivis I remember using 4OS/2, 4DOS, and 4NT. JP Software always had quality software. It's good to see they're still around.
Nov 23 2012 at 11:17am Copy Link
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Rex Conn "Does TCC support Win 8?"

Yes -- Take Command (including TCC) supports all Windows versions from XP SP2 through Windows 8 (and Server 2012).
JP Software - Nov 23 2012 at 11:56am Copy Link
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Guy Good @Rex Conn

If I already ownTake Command 13.x, is the upgrade fee discounted by 50% also?
Nov 23 2012 at 3:28pm Copy Link
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Rex Conn "If I already ownTake Command 13.x, is the upgrade fee discounted by 50% also?"

This promotion is for new copies only. We will probably have another (not BDJ) in the future for upgrades.
JP Software - Nov 23 2012 at 6:12pm Copy Link
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Stephen Kreyling Any plans on adding a compiler for this product?
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Rex Conn It's on the suggestion list. The question is whether it would be worth the (very considerable) effort required. If only a tiny fraction of the Take Command users would use it, is it better to spend the development time working on more commonly used features?
JP Software - May 4 2013 at 5:41am Copy Link
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Robert Edwards The demo I downloaded from the Bitsdejour link was v13 and the demo from the author's website was v15. Is the Bitsdejour offer for the older version or the newest version?
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Rex Conn The BitsDuJour offer is for the latest version (15.01). i'll check to see if BDJ has the updated link.
JP Software - May 6 2013 at 4:33am Copy Link
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Mike B I'm pretty sure I know what the answer will be, but is there any kind of deal/discount for upgrades (in addition to the usual upgrade discount)?
May 6 2013 at 5:13am Copy Link
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Rex Conn The BitsDuJour promotion is for new copies only.
JP Software - May 6 2013 at 9:17am Copy Link
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Jon Spain The Fine Print tab says it applies to upgrades as well?
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Rex Conn The Fine Print tab language is a bit confusing -- you can indeed use this new copy promotion to upgrade an existing copy. But at $49.97 you'll pay $0.02 more than if you just ordered an upgrade copy.

We do occasionally offer specials on upgrades, but this BitsDuJour promotion isn't set up for that.
JP Software - May 7 2013 at 4:21am Copy Link
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Guy Good @Rex Conn

I asked in the past regarding specials on upgrades and I believe you said occasionally emails were sent with that type of offer. I have not received any email offers, so I was wondering if none were sent or my email account loses them. A friend says they send some emails and I fail to receive them at times. I check the Spam folder and don't find them there. My email account is Yahoo webmail if you are aware of problems with them.

Thank You
May 7 2013 at 7:31am Copy Link
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Rex Conn Are you receiving the monthly "Prompt Solution" email newsletters?
JP Software - May 7 2013 at 9:07am Copy Link
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Guy Good @Rex Conn

No I am not.

I created a folder in my ISP POP3 account, but it appears to never have received an email. I also checked the Yahoo webmail account I would likely use and no newsletter there.

I just attempted to signup again using the ISP Pop3 account but didn't receive the usual confirmation email most companies send.

Can you post a URL to make sure I am signing up at the correct place?

Thank You
May 7 2013 at 9:42am Copy Link
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Rex Conn Hi Guy: I'll check your email list membership and respond offline.
JP Software - May 7 2013 at 10:50am Copy Link
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InterestedParty @ Rex Conn

Hi there - I just wanted to check what for you constitutes 3 computers - are we talking physical computers or do virtual machines (of which several can be on one physical machine) count towards the 3 computer limit (I understand the bit about them not being used at the same time, regardless of virtual or physical) ?

Thank you and regards,
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Rex Conn The license key is normally based on the machine names, so if your VMs have different names then they will count towards the 3 system limit.

However, you can also register using a USB thumb drive, so you can share that on all the VMs that can read that drive.
JP Software - May 7 2013 at 3:48pm Copy Link
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InterestedParty @ Rex Conn
Thank you very much, that helps a lot!
May 7 2013 at 8:01pm Copy Link
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Gonzo Hi Rex,

I'm a registered user since v13 and, like Guy Good, never received the monthly newsletter.
Would you mind signing me up?
Or let me know which URL to use to sign up and I'll do it on my end.

Thanks!
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Rex Conn Hi Gonzo:

You can sign up on our web page "Subscribe to our Newsletter" at http://jpsoft.com, which will send a confirmation email that you need to respond to before you're added to the list.

If that doesn't work for you, send your details (email address & full name) to supportjpsoft.com, and I'll add you manually.
JP Software - May 8 2013 at 4:07am Copy Link
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Retired Engineer How does TC relate to Windows Power Shell? Does TC already contain WPS, provide enhanced access to it, or provide a superset of its functionality?
May 8 2013 at 10:05am Copy Link
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Rex Conn Take Command has three components:

1) A tabbed windows interface for console (and some GUI) apps
2) A command processor that is a superset of CMD.EXE'
3) A batch debugger / IDE for .BAT and .CMD scripts

PowerShell can run in #1, giving you a (much) better UI for PowerShell. #2 and #3 aren't relevant to PowerShell, just to CMD users looking to upgrade.
JP Software - May 8 2013 at 10:40am Copy Link
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SFuji Can you create a batch file or script and make it a standalone to run on another computer that does not have Take Command installed?
Oct 15 2013 at 1:17am Copy Link
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Guy Good Does the discount take 50% off the upgrade price?
Oct 15 2013 at 3:42am Copy Link
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Rex Conn Does the discount take 50% off the upgrade price?

No, this is only for new copies.
JP Software - Oct 15 2013 at 5:03am Copy Link
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Rex Conn Can you create a batch file or script and make it a standalone to run on another computer that does not have Take Command installed?

There is no stand-alone compiler for script files. However, if you're willing to accept a reduced feature set, you can develop script files in Take Command using the batch debugger / ide, and distribute them for use with TCC/LE (which is free).
JP Software - Oct 15 2013 at 5:05am Copy Link
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Guy Good @Rex Conn

I signed up for the Take Command newsletter list and have never received an email that I recall. In the past I believe you mentioned that it contained special offers now and then. Has anyone else reported not receiving their newsletters? Normally I signup using a Yahoo email address, but since I was not receiving newsletters I also used a Comcast email address. I didn't appear to get them at that address either.
Oct 15 2013 at 5:17am Copy Link
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Lito If you use the command line or make batch scripts at all, I highly recommend this program. I love it and use it all the time.

I seem to also have a problem with the newsletter. I tried subscribing just a few minutes ago and never got the message that it said it was going to send to confirm.
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peter schleifer I've found some good info on Take Command here:

http://www.pcworld.com/ar...shell.html

It seems to be a really professional program, and I'm intrigued by its additional commands. But then, I use AHK for file operations, and simply don't need such a program in everyday work, except for one special task many people got to do, here and then, but for which there is no real professional tool: I would like to "print"/write into a .txt file a complete list of folders, subfolders and their files/content for external harddisks, usb sticks and such that are not constantly connected to my system.

Now there are lots of file managers - I own them almost all -, but none of them does this in any acceptable way, and there are some special listing tools (also offered here, for some), which are much better at it, but without your knowing what exactly is done, so I would like to do such a little script from command line, with Take Command, in order to better "learn" what's going on, and to have more flexibility in what I get, for "tweaking" and all that: to begin with, just the folders and the files, but with some indenting, i.e. in a hierarchy, be it with white spaces, or with tabs, before each sub-folder, and before file lines, i.e. something like an enhanced, iterative dir command which then gets redirected to a .txt file.

I am sure this is possible with Take Command, but I don't have the expertise to do it. Would the developer be so kind as to publish some lines of script for this?

Especially if the scriptlet included additional commands, proper to Take Command, this would be the perfect win win situation, since we couldn't do it without TC, but had the perfect reason to buy!

It would be some "good start", where not only professionals, but also "advanced amateurs" like myself could get some initial use out of this program, and from that develop other things.

The alternative way, starting by buying a book about batch programming, would be the very hard way, and not necessarily lead to some success.
Oct 15 2013 at 8:09am Copy Link
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Guy Good @peter schleifer

Have you taken a look at a freeware program called Karen's Directory Printer?
It is very flexible setting up the output to a text file selecting just what you want.

http://www.karenware.com/...dirprn.asp
Oct 15 2013 at 9:33am Copy Link
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carl thorpe @peter schleifer

From the normal command line, you can do:

e: (or whatever the drive letter of the usb drive is)
dir /s /og files.txt

That will write a listing of everything on the drive to files.txt

The /og will group directories at the top of each folder.

If you just want the file/directory names and do not want sizes, dates, etc, you can add /b to the command.

C
Oct 15 2013 at 9:45am Copy Link
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Rex Conn There have been several solutions posted on the JP Software support forums (http://jpsoft.com/forums) to do this sort of thing. I recommend reposting your question on the Take Command forum; you're likely to get several responses from other users with their solutions.
JP Software - Oct 15 2013 at 10:08am Copy Link
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peter schleifer Guy Good, thank you for mentioning KDP, which I use regularly, and which is free; I hold its developer, the late Karen Kenworthy, in big respect, and it always pleases me to have her mentioned. But KDP is not as flexible as I would like it to have, and I also tried some other programs, free and paid, and from which some regularly appear here on bits.

I would like to have something like:

folder a
subfolder abc
file.suffix there
another file.suffix there
folder b
subfolder xyz
subfolder zzz
file.suffix there

Nothing more, and nothing less.

Carl, thank you for mentioning the original dir command, and which when you call it by dir /?, it will show its parameters.

But of course, your command line (for beginners: the "" sign will redirect the output to the file in question) does not do what I would like to have, not speaking of missing spaces/tabs, that's why I'm willing to spend 50 dollars for something really flexible.

Btw, the original dos command does not even output the original "European" characters like äöüéàè in the filenames.

That's why tools like Take Command have a real interest for those who know how to properly use them... which unfortunately isn't my case!
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ehab i just wanted to add my voice.

I recommend this app, rex is active on the forums, also supports developers requests. I moved to linux thats why i don't use this anymore.

So if you do script or use heavily windows cmd then grab this offer while it lasts.
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Michael R. I have bought TC some months ago, probably mainly because of the possibility of debugging my batch-programs. I am using it as my standard DOS-Box and am very happy with it...

Using junction links a lot, I am wondering, if there is a way with TC to copy/move/delete complete directories including junction links?

E.g. if I have a directory d:\a\b with b is a junction link, pointing to a directory x:\b and I want to copy (or move) d:\a to e:\a, I want it in such a way, that e:\a\b is again a junction link and not a real directory which contains the files from x:\b.
And the same with delete: d:\a should be deleted, but the files from x:\b should not be removed, just the link d:\a\b (as if I use 'rd d:\a\b').

I tried to do this with some DiskUtilities - even DOpus - but either I didn't look hard enough or they are not able to do this... So, are there any options inside TC to accomplish this?

[Any hints about other programs, which can do this are very welcome too...]

Thanks a lot...
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Lito I don't think you get an additional 50% off on the upgrade. AFAIK this promo is 50% off the retail price for a new license, but you can just use the purchase to upgrade your current license. I am sure JPSOFT will let you know if I am mistaken. FYI you might want to get on their mailing list. They did have a 15% or 20% off the upgrade discount for a short time when they released v16.

As far as duplicating the previous command line press the up arrow on the keyboard to go through your command history, or you can also use F3 for the previous one. Another tip, if you did several commands, and want to only repeat a specific one you can type the first few letters of the command you want to repeat and press the up arrow and it will scroll only through the commands you used that start with those first few letters.
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Michael R. @Lito

Unfortunately you misunderstood what I wanted. I was not trying to duplicate a former command, but the last (or a former) argument in the current (not yet executed) command-line, i.e. no history. Please check my rename-example.

To my main-question about the upgrade-discount: This can only be answered by the software-company itself. Guessworking does not really help
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Mark Johnson @Michael R. -
I believe you can accomplish what you want (modify previous parameter name) by using a variable for the parameter, then just output the variable and update as needed for subsequent commands. Or maybe I just misunderstand what you're trying to do...

You can view changes in version 16 here: http://jpsoft.com/help/in...ts_new.htm .

I purchased version 14 through a BDJ promotion in November, 2012 and got a free upgrade to version 15 when it came out a few months later. Anymore I use Powershell a lot more than cmd or tcc, so I didn't bother upgrading to version 16. It is very powerful software, but unfortunately that power doesn't extend to Powershell except through allowing Powershell to run in one of its tabs. For those who work with the windows command prompt and DOS .bat files a lot, this software is great. Development on the product is active, so I guess the question for upgrading users is if there's enough in the upgrade to make it worth the $49.95 (or $49.97 if purchased here) upgrade price. If I was still using cmd a lot I would probably buy the upgrade.
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disenchanted I had gotten POWERCMD a year or two ago.

Is there any features comparison of TAKE COMMAND vs. competitor products (like POWERCMD) ?
Aug 8 2014 at 11:13am Copy Link
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Mark Johnson @disenchanted: Powercmd version history: http://www.sharesoftware2...md-94.html I haven't used Powercmd for a long time, but from what I remember it is a GUI interface for a dos prompt and other than colors, edits, and saved sessions doesn't really add any abilities to what can be done at a DOS prompt other than saving the output. It actually sends all commands through a windows command prompt, and is a layer on top of it. Here is a comparison. Since it is on the Take Command website it is no doubt biased toward Take Command, but will at least give you an idea of the differences: http://jpsoft.com/compari...ndows.html
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Michael R. @Mark Johnsen: I suppose it's not what I meant. Reducing it to the pure handling (without explaining the why). Example: After typing
ren abc|
and pressing the magic-hotkey (which I am looking for), the command-lline would be
ren abc abc|
,where '|' is the cursor. Most useful it would be of course, if the filenames would be quite long or quite similar and so it would be quite easy to make an error by mixing up the filenames)
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Rex Conn @Michael R.
This promotion is only for new users. We had a promotion for upgrading existing users a couple of months ago (apparently you missed that one -- are you on the JP Software newsletter mailing list?). Email me at support@jpsoft.com and I'll send you the coupon code for the upgrade discount.
JP Software - Aug 8 2014 at 1:25pm Copy Link
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Rex Conn @disenchanted:
See:
http://jpsoft.com/compari...ndows.html
for a feature comparison of Take Command and some other tabbed windows interfaces.
JP Software - Aug 8 2014 at 1:27pm Copy Link
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Rex Conn @Michael R:
Yes, you can recall arguments from previous commands. See "Command Line Editing" in the help. (Specifically the Ctrl-0 through Ctrl-9 keys, and/or Ctrl-B.)
JP Software - Aug 8 2014 at 1:29pm Copy Link
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Michael R. @Rex Conn: Thanke a lot. I've sent you an email...
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Daniel Gaudet I just purchased Take Command and I wanted to confirm that I can install it on 3 machines. The completed order page mentioned that it was for one system.

Also, if I run multiple VMs on my system, the fine print mentions that it's unlimited installations. They should be covered by the same license correct? (At least that's how I interpreted the information).

Thanks!
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Rex Conn @Michael Gaudet:
You can install a single license on up to three machines (for example, a home desktop, work desktop, and laptop), provided they're not in use simultaneously other than for synchronization. The registration key is based on the computer name, so if you keep the same name you can (re)install repeatedly.
JP Software - Aug 10 2014 at 5:28am Copy Link
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Stephen Kreyling Interested in 50% off if it runs again.
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Laga Mahesa > Take Command is licensed per computer, and not per user.
Each license allows installation on 3 computers, but Take Command may not be used at exactly the same time on each of them.

I see from the forums that portable installations are possible with Take Command, which is a huge selling point. How is licensing handled for USB installations? Can I use the portable version on a 4th, 5th, 60th machine or VM?

> Transfer of a license to another owned computer is allowed.

Is this automatic upon uninstallation, or via a support request?

> Upgrades to future versions of the software will be free for 3 months. For versions after that, upgrades will require additional payment, which will be discounted.

Is the upgrade pricing the same with large gaps, for example between 18-21 rather than 18-19?
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Rex Conn Portable installations are on a USB thumb drive. You can move the thumb drive to any other machine. << Transfer of a license to another owned computer is allowed. > Is this automatic upon uninstallation, or via a support request? > Upon request. < Is the upgrade pricing the same with large gaps, for example between 18-21 rather than 18-19? > Upgrade prices are the same from any previous version.
JP Software - Jul 15 2015 at 5:41am Copy Link
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Laga Mahesa Thanks. What confuses me is the "per computer" aspect and the portable installations - do they not 'count' as an installation license? Eg, I can use them on as many random/client PCs as I wish without impact on my 3 installation limit?
Jul 15 2015 at 7:31am Copy Link
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Rex Conn Each installation on a thumb drive counts against your limit of 3. For example, you could install on a desktop, a laptop, and a thumb drive. You could then take the thumb drive and use it on different systems (but only one at a time).

Or you could install on three thumb drives, and move them among systems. But you're still subject to the single user license -- i.e., you can't install a single system license on three thumb drives and give two of them to other users to use at the same time you're using the third drive. (For that, you'd need a three system license.)

The Take Command registration key is tied to the computer name, except in the case of the portable installation, in which case it is tied to the thumb drive serial number.
JP Software - Jul 15 2015 at 8:08am Copy Link
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Laga Mahesa That's cleared it all up for me, thank you Rex Conn. I'll go and buy it now. :)
Jul 15 2015 at 8:24am Copy Link
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Rex Conn Yes, volume licensing and multisystem licensing are the same thing.
JP Software - Jul 15 2015 at 9:01am Copy Link
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Laga Mahesa Thanks!
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Guy Good Is there any way to get a lower price for an upgrade? It looks like a new copy and upgrade are the same price. I only use Take Command for home use, so $39.97 is still a little high for my situation.
Jul 15 2015 at 12:20pm Copy Link
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Daniel Gaudet Rex: Could you clarify the upgrade path for this offer.

In the fine print it says:
"Upgrades to future versions of the software will be free for 3 months. For versions after that, upgrades will require additional payment, which will be discounted."

Does it mean that to get a point release update after 3 months, there needs to be an upgrade payment or is it only for full version updates e.g. v18 to v19 that there needs to be a payment?

Thanks in advance!
Jul 15 2015 at 1:37pm Copy Link
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Rex Conn Hi Guy:

The BitsDuJour offer is only for new copies. (Cutting the price in half again for an update, and splitting it with BitsDuJour would mean essentially free upgrades, which isn't a great business model!)
JP Software - Jul 15 2015 at 2:04pm Copy Link
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Rex Conn Hi Daniel:

Minor updates (i.e., 18.01, 18.02, etc.) are always free. Major updates (i.e., v19 or a hypothetical 18.5) would not be free if they were released more than three months after an order.
JP Software - Jul 15 2015 at 2:07pm Copy Link
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TESS273 Hi, Rex,

I've purchaed TC a few hours ago, and tested it. I think that I found a bug with Korean Windows.

First, please watch this video.
https://dl.dropboxusercon...084546.wmv

In this video, you can see that detached TCC displayes contents properly but attached TCC doesn't.

Is is normal? or unusual especially in Korean Windows? All of the settings are default and I didn't touch anything. Anyway please check this problem. Thanks.

OS: Windows 8.1 Korean Professional K 32bit
Take Command Ver: 18.00.27
Jul 15 2015 at 5:10pm Copy Link
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Rex Conn Are you using the same font for both the console window and TCMD?

Also, you need to be using a Unicode font (for both).
JP Software - Jul 15 2015 at 5:36pm Copy Link
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TESS273 Yes, I've tried to change to Gulim. Gulim is the default font of Windows XP. Malgun Gothic is the default Korean font since Vista, but TC couldn't recognize it. So I have no choice but to select Gulim.

Gulim is not ClearType font but Unicode font. Malgun Gothic is both of them.

TC & TCC font: Gulim
System Font: Malgun Gothic

Even though I've changed to Gulim font, there is nothing to change.

And I said that Detached TCC WORKS PROPERLY in the previous comment. When I changed font, I changed it both of TCC and TC.
Jul 15 2015 at 6:10pm Copy Link
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Rex Conn Are you using the same code page for the console & TCMD?
JP Software - Jul 15 2015 at 7:29pm Copy Link
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TESS273 As I had not known about the code page, I searched it. I didn't change any settings of TC & TCC.

I inputted 'chcp' command and and here is the result.

https://www.dropbox.com/s...3.png?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s...2.png?dl=0

The weird thing is that TC displayed Korean Characters properly but scattered Characters here and there. Please look at the red underline carefully.
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Fletch Wow, so a point release (the hypothetical 18.5) is considered "major"? Don't think I've ever encountered that in the past 20 or so years. Thanks for pointing that out.

I'm with Guy, but also agree cutting this offer in half again is unrealistic. But, $29.97 would be a nice compromise. It's also understandable that you're probably not fishing for upgrades but new licensees.
Jul 16 2015 at 3:09pm Copy Link
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Rex Conn We did cut the upgrade price for v18 by 20% compared to v17.
JP Software - Jul 16 2015 at 6:23pm Copy Link
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TESS273 @Rex Conn,

Why don't you answer my question? As it turns out serious bug with Unicode Characters, do you ignore it?

If you don't have in mind to fix this bug, I want to refund. I didn't activate Serial Number yet.
Jul 16 2015 at 6:53pm Copy Link
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Rex Conn I cannot reproduce your issue here, but we have limited experience with wide character sets.

Please move the discussion over to the support forum (https://jpsoft.com/forums); we have a number of Korean / Japanese / Chinese users there who might have ideas on your configuration.
JP Software - Jul 16 2015 at 7:13pm Copy Link
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TESS273 @Rex Conn,

Do you REALLY try to reproduce my issue? I'm sorry but it costs a doubt. It's because really easy to reproduce my issue.

Here is the proof.

This is another computer and it's Windows 8.1 x64.
https://www.dropbox.com/s...6.png?dl=0

I have 3PCs and I can reproduce this in the all of them. But you couldn't? Don't you think it's really odd?

Don't you believe that it's possible to reproduce this issue anytime yet?

I will show you another proof.
https://www.dropbox.com/s...0.png?dl=0

This is very raw Windows circumstance. There is nothing of drivers and programs installed. It even uses Windows Default Video Driver. All of the settings with Windows are default. I didn't touch anything Except installing Take Command.

I installed Windows with genuin Windows ISO downloading from MSDN.

Do you really want to say again that I can't reproduce your issue?
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RichV Will a new release be required for Windows 10?
Jul 17 2015 at 4:50am Copy Link
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Rex Conn RichV - Take Command v18 is fully compatible with Windows 10.
JP Software - Jul 17 2015 at 4:57am Copy Link
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Rex Conn << TESS273 Why don't you answer my question? As it turns out serious bug with Unicode Characters, do you ignore it? >> We're not ignoring it; we are trying to reproduce the problem here but have been unable to do so thus far. (We also do not have any systems preconfigured to use Korean characters, so it's taking a little while to get everything set up.) Please post tech support issues on our support forum, where we have a lot of users already running in similar environments who can help.
JP Software - Jul 17 2015 at 5:02am Copy Link
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Rex Conn << TESS273 Hi, Rex, I've purchaed TC a few hours ago, and tested it. I think that I found a bug with Korean Windows. First, please watch this video. https://dl.dropboxusercon...084546.wmv In this video, you can see that detached TCC displayes contents properly but attached TCC doesn't. >> This may be unrelated to your Korean setup. Is this only happening with PowerShell? What happens if you reduce your TCMD window size? Your video seems to be showing PowerShell reducing the underlying console window size. What happens if you start a new tab using PowerShell, instead of launching PowerShell from TCC?
JP Software - Jul 17 2015 at 5:06am Copy Link
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Laga Mahesa Use a full KO Windows ISO, don't just install the language packs. It's not the same.
Jul 17 2015 at 5:24am Copy Link
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Rex Conn TESS273 - If a DIR works in a TCC tab window, then it's unlikely to be a TCMD display issue. (That code is the same in v16 & v18.)

1) Does it work in CMD?

2) Does it work in PowerShell if you reduce the TCMD tab window size (say, to something like 80x43) before launching PowerShell?

TCMD can potentially display a larger window than the underlying console is capable of with the default font. In that case, you need to launch a console window, select "Properties", and change the default system console font size to something smaller.
JP Software - Jul 17 2015 at 6:00am Copy Link
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TESS273 @Rex Conn,

>>Is this only happening with PowerShell?
No, this issue happens with normal CMD and PowerShell, both of them.
When you command 'dir',
Attached TC: OK
Detached TCC: OK
Attached TC with PowerShell: Error
Detached TCC with PowerShell: OK

But when you run "XXX.cmd" file,
Attached TC: Error
Detached TCC: OK
https://www.dropbox.com/s...0.png?dl=0

In other word, regardless of PowerShell, attached TC has always problems.

>>What happens if you reduce your TCMD window size?
This is not related with windows size.

>>Your video seems to be showing PowerShell reducing the underlying console window size.
I don't understand your words.
PowerShell reducing the underlying console window size???
I just moved powershell windows and command "cls". That's it.

>>What happens if you start a new tab using PowerShell, instead of launching PowerShell from TCC?

I said again,

THIS IS NOT Related just with the POWERSHELL.
https://www.dropbox.com/s...0.png?dl=0
This issue happens with the XXX.cmd file.

Please just try this in Korean or Japanese etc Windows. Thanks.
Jul 17 2015 at 6:17am Copy Link
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Rex Conn TESS273 - please move this discussion to our support forum (https://jpsoft.com/forums).
JP Software - Jul 17 2015 at 7:30am Copy Link
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Rex Conn > No - a console app (TCC, CMD, PowerShell, or whatever) doesn't know anything about tab windows, it just writes to the console window. TCMD reads the contents of the (hidden) console windows and displays them in GUI tab windows, that TCMD creates and updates.

What is apparently happening on your system (which we still have not been able to reproduce) is there is a mismatch between the hidden console window size and the TCMD tab window size. If the sizes were the same, when you detach a TCMD tab window you should get a console window of exactly the same dimensions (and that does not appear to be happening judging by your screenshots).

TCMD will resize the hidden console window to match the TCMD tab window size when the tab window is created. However, it's possible that something is either blocking the resize or resetting it (perhaps a screen manager?).

This would be much simpler & faster to resolve if you would move the discussion to our support forum ...
JP Software - Jul 17 2015 at 7:50am Copy Link
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Fletch Indeed, you cut 20% off new licenses and upgrades. That's great, but now you're offering 50% off that for new licenses. I think Guy was looking for some 'deal' off upgrades too - not necessarily 50% either. That's often an issue with the BDJ deals so this is not an exception. Upgrade licenses at the same price as new licenses sometimes leaves existing users feeling alienated.
Jul 17 2015 at 9:35am Copy Link
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TESS273 https://www.dropbox.com/s...t.txt?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s...1.wmv?dl=0
Please be sure to download this. The quality of online video is awful.
//BitsDuJour has problems about displaying comments, too. :(
These are all things I can do for you. I don't want to register in your forum because I've already refund. :P
Thanks.
Jul 17 2015 at 10:09am Copy Link
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Stefan Hauber One of the former times, you offered TakeCommand, there was a 1-year-free-upgrades policy, so one payment (per year) got the customers an up-to-date version of TC with typically 1 or 2 upgrades per year. In the last time about every 6-7 months a new major version is published.

Now this policy seems to have changed to 3 months free upgrades instead of 12. I'm sure, I am not the only one who is not happy about that.
Feb 5 2016 at 1:26am Copy Link
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Rex Conn About three years ago, we tried switching to the one-year upgrades. (At that time we *never* had more than one upgrade a year.) This turned out to be confusing and unpopular with our users, and an ongoing support headache for us. We had a poll on our support forum offering several alternatives, and the favorite among the users was to (1) drop the price (which we did by 20%) and (2) to increase the frequency of upgrades (which we did to ~6 months).

Most of our users do not upgrade on every version -- the average is an upgrade every 3 versions. So the new policy gets users more features at less cost.

There is an additional alternative -- we have the Extended Support option which does offer one year of free upgrades. So that means if you order Extended Support, you'll get (with the new release schedule) two free upgrades, for less money than the previous plan.
JP Software - Feb 5 2016 at 4:55am Copy Link
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Nico Westerdale Great News! JP Software has agreed to extend this deal for another day - Enjoy!
BitsDuJour Admin - Feb 6 2016 at 12:11am Copy Link
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Avi S Highly Recommended! I've purchased dozens of items over the years from BDJ, but none has increased my productivity the way Take Command did.

Dr. Avi Shmidman
Bar Ilan University
Feb 6 2016 at 9:20am Copy Link
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Mike B Can you clarify if there's a limit to the number of versions that are 'upgradeable'?

For example, if I buy TC v19 and decide I'd like to upgrade when TC v30 is released, will the upgrade discount still apply (at least as far as your current policy goes)?
Feb 7 2016 at 2:24am Copy Link
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Rex Conn You can upgrade from any prior version of Take Command, 4NT, or even 4DOS (which was discontinued 12 years ago) for the same upgrade price.
JP Software - Feb 7 2016 at 6:24am Copy Link
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Stephane M Hi, The Fine Print section says that this promotion can be used to upgrade or extend an existing license.

Please, could you tell me how I can proceed to upgrade from v19 to v20 using this promotion?

Thanks!
Oct 4 2016 at 10:36am Copy Link
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Constantin Florea @Stephane M, I've just contacted the vendor regarding the issue you mention.
BitsDuJour Admin - Oct 4 2016 at 11:01am Copy Link
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Rex Conn Hi Stephane:

This promotion is for new licenses only. We had a promotion at our webstore for the last couple of months for discounted upgrades to v20.

Rex Conn
JP Software
JP Software - Oct 4 2016 at 12:22pm Copy Link
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Stephane M OK I understand so I will wait for next upgrade promotion then :-)
Thanks Rex for your quick reply!
Oct 4 2016 at 1:31pm Copy Link
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Chris @ Stephane M ~ It means if you buy today you can upgrade for $49.97 but will probably have a new key.
Oct 4 2016 at 4:12pm Copy Link
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Stephane M @ Chris, $49.97 is actually the regular price to upgrade.
Oct 4 2016 at 7:58pm Copy Link
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Tom Missed the promotion at the site of JP Software. I also was interested in the upgrade variant, not in obtaining a second license.
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Gonzo I own an old version and I really like this, but I must say the price is a bit steep for non-business use.
Also, the 3 months updates policy is a bit short; companies should realize and use the standard 12 months or all minor updates... or lifetime, but I know that won't happen with this kind of software.
Oct 5 2016 at 8:43am Copy Link
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MrZebulon Is there a reduced price for the upgrade as well?
many thanks.
May 18 2017 at 1:56am Copy Link
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Rex Conn Hi Roland: No, the reduced price is only for new copies.
JP Software - May 18 2017 at 2:47am Copy Link
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Jon Spain Roland The price here IS the upgrade price!

Jon
May 18 2017 at 2:55am Copy Link
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Richard Murphy As much as I've looked around I cannot determine if this will generate distributable files.

Anyone have an answer to this?
May 18 2017 at 5:37am Copy Link
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Rex Conn Hi Richard: Take Command does not have a batch compiler; however we also offer another product (TCC-RT) which will run your Take Command batch files. TCC-RT is free and can be distributed with your scripts.
JP Software - May 18 2017 at 5:54am Copy Link
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Richard Murphy Thanks. I'll take a look.
May 18 2017 at 5:56am Copy Link
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Ali User Can the software be installed on windows server 2008R2 ?
May 18 2017 at 6:53am Copy Link
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Gonzo I purchased v13 back in 2012 and have a couple of questions:

1-Is paying the upgrade/new license my only option?
Or can I now order the Extended support only and receive the latest version this way?
In other words: do I have to have the latest version to be eligible for buying extended support?

2-If I decide to stop paying extended support, do I get to keep and use the latest version I paid for?
May 18 2017 at 7:48am Copy Link
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Rex Conn Hi Ali: Yes, it will run on 2008R2.
JP Software - May 18 2017 at 8:38am Copy Link
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Rex Conn Hi Gonzo:

1) You can order an upgrade to v21 (on our website) from any prior version of Take Command. You can only order Extended Support together with a new or upgrade order; after that you can just renew Extended Support each year (and get all the upgrades) without having to order a new or upgrade copy.

2) You can continue using your paid versions forever; they do not expire.
JP Software - May 18 2017 at 8:41am Copy Link
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Gonzo Thanks for clarifying and for the quick response :)
May 18 2017 at 12:52pm Copy Link
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Stephen Warkentien May I get the 50% discount on an upgrade?
Jan 19 2018 at 8:28am Copy Link
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Rex Conn Sorry; the discount is only for new copies, not upgrades.
JP Software - Jan 19 2018 at 9:15am Copy Link
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Stephen Warkentien Then what's the cost of an upgrade?
Jan 19 2018 at 8:12pm Copy Link
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Rex Conn $49.95 for a single-system license for Take Command. ($34.95 for a single-system license if you only want TCC.)
JP Software - Jan 19 2018 at 8:34pm Copy Link
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Nico Westerdale Great News! JP Software has agreed to extend this deal for another day - Enjoy!
BitsDuJour Admin - Jan 20 2018 at 12:11am Copy Link
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DH007 Can i compile to exe?
Jan 20 2018 at 6:43am Copy Link
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Rex Conn There isn't an option to compile to .exe. However, you can generate a compressed + encrypted batch file, and execute it using TCC-RT, our free runtime version of the TCC command processor.
JP Software - Jan 20 2018 at 11:24am Copy Link
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Michel Kemperman Suddenly my purchased version of Take Command v21 through Bitsdujour (19th of may, 2017) doesn't work anymore. It tells me to register (!?!?!?). Can you help me out? I can send you the key, name and licence details if necessary.
Apr 28 2018 at 8:53am Copy Link
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Rex Conn Download the latest v21 build (21.01.63). There was a problem several weeks ago with the code signing certificate not being recognized by Microsoft; it was fixed in the patched build.
JP Software - Apr 28 2018 at 4:52pm Copy Link
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Michel Kemperman Worked like a charm, thanks! Had to re-register the application after installation, but then everything worked fine.
Apr 30 2018 at 2:33am Copy Link
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Petr Presales questions please. #1. Can a terminal window be opened without Admin rights and then issue a command to give that windows escalated admin rights? Or, does the terminal window have to be initially opened with admin rights? (or both?) #2. Can other languages be used to script within a Windows terminal window, or just your language?
Aug 4 2018 at 1:29am Copy Link
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Mike B I'm not the developer - just a current user of an older version of Take Command (v18).

> Can a terminal window be opened without Admin rights and then issue a command to give that windows escalated admin rights? Or, does the terminal window have to be initially opened with admin rights?

From the v23 help file I see that there is a new "Restart Elevated" menu option that will restart the console window(s) with elevation. You can also run any command as admin from a non-elevated console using the "start /elevated" command.

> Can other languages be used to script within a Windows terminal window, or just your language?

The Take Command Environment is a GUI that manages tabbed command/console windows. Those command windows can run any Windows console program, including cmd.exe (the native Windows shell/batch file processor) or any other scripting language that runs in a Windows console. Powershell, the Windows vbscript interpreter, Python, Ruby, Perl, whatever. All of them will run in a TC console window.
Aug 4 2018 at 1:21pm Copy Link
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Rex Conn Hi Petr:

Mike B covered most of your questions. To expand a bit on question #1, if Take Command is opened elevated, then new tab windows will also be elevated. (Though you can optionally attach an existing non-elevated console app to a tab window.). If Take Command is started non-elevated, then the tabs will be non-elevated. But Take Command can be restarted elevated, and the existing tab windows will automatically be reattached.

However, there is no way in Windows to make a non-elevated console session into an elevated session.
JP Software - Aug 4 2018 at 5:49pm Copy Link
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K User 3 months updates are too limited and comparison with other software is very old. I will pass it.
Aug 7 2018 at 4:40am Copy Link
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Rex Conn The 3 month period is for major updates; users get unlimited minor updates. Not sure what you mean by "very old" - the latest version (23.0) was released in June 2018.
JP Software - Aug 7 2018 at 5:19am Copy Link
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Emil Kucera Hello all, if you read the old conversations, you will see my endorsement of this program from 2012. Right now I just bought the new copy.

@ Rex Conn:
Hi, since my old copy is ver 13, I thought it about time to update, to show my support, even though these days I don't use the full program very much, mostly the TCCl LE is enough to do the job :)
Best of luck and keep up the good work!
Best regards Emil
Aug 7 2018 at 8:29am Copy Link
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Petr Hi, I just purchased a new license for TakeCommand for my main development PC. I also have an older license that gives me access to install version 14 and 15 of TakeCommand. I would like to install my old version on another PC. Where do I get access to download version 15? Thanks.
Aug 7 2018 at 3:30pm Copy Link
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Mike B JPSoft's downloads page has a link to older versions of their software.
Aug 7 2018 at 4:01pm Copy Link
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Tom Hello JPSoft,
Yesterday I purchased a new license but forgot to purchase the extended support (1 year free updates). Is it still possible to do this?
Kind regards Paul
Aug 8 2018 at 5:19am Copy Link
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Rex Conn Hi Paul:
Extended Support can't be added on afterwards; however I can cancel & refund your original order, and you can place a new order. Send your details to supportjpsoft.com.
JP Software - Aug 8 2018 at 5:52am Copy Link
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Bradley MacDonald Hello - curious how the product is licensed? I have a main laptop - and I have a number of Virtual Machines - many of which I am constantly creating and destroying (they 'live' for about 2 months - then I destroy them - and create new ones - this is because I do data conversions for a living and the VMs only last as long as data conversion project. )
So - if I purchase a license - is it tied to a machine? Or am I am to install it on a few different machines that only I have access to?

Bradley MacDonald
Aug 8 2018 at 6:28am Copy Link
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Rex Conn Hi Bradley: the license is normally tied to the machine name. You can install a single system license on up to three machines, and you can unregister a system (freeing its license) from within Take Command. You can also register the license on a usb thumb drive, and move it between systems or vm's.
JP Software - Aug 8 2018 at 9:00am Copy Link
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Tom Hi JPSoft,
I just ordered a new copy together with extended support for 1 year, as you suggested above.
I've sent the ordering nummers of the two purchases to supportjpsoft.com.

Thanks in advance.
Kind regards,
Paul
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Mike B I'd like to suggest that this offer include some sort of discount to the upgrade price for people who have a current license.

Thanks!
Feb 24 2019 at 2:12am Copy Link
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Rex Conn Unfortunately, after the discount & splitting with BDJ, we don't make any money on these promotions. (The goal is to gain new users and hope they upgrade in the future.)

If we offered a similar discount on upgrades and split that with BDJ, we'd lose money on every order -- not a good long-term business plan!
JP Software - Feb 24 2019 at 8:25am Copy Link
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Nico Westerdale Great News! JP Software has agreed to extend this deal for another day - Enjoy!
BitsDuJour Admin - Feb 27 2019 at 12:11am Copy Link
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Nico Westerdale Great News! JP Software has agreed to extend this deal for another day - Enjoy!
BitsDuJour Admin - Feb 28 2019 at 12:11am Copy Link
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Goran User Is there going to be another promotion on TakeCommand?
Apr 6 2019 at 3:54am Copy Link
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Rex Conn Nothing planned yet, but we have been doing these promotions with BdJ every few months.
JP Software - Apr 6 2019 at 5:38am Copy Link
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Robert User @Rex/jpsoft

I looked at the jpsoft.com website hoping to find a changelog. I found the documentation contains what's new but it is for full versions only, and it does not show the date of when the version was released. The forum has some info on version 22, 23, and 24, but I could not find any specifics on dates other when the posts were made.

Where can I find an actual changelog for all versions? Thanking you in advance.
Jul 24 2019 at 12:48pm Copy Link
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Rex Conn We don't have a single changelog covering all versions and minor builds. The new features are covered in the "What's New" section of the help; the bug fixes are in the build update announcements in the Support Forum.
JP Software - Jul 24 2019 at 3:10pm Copy Link
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guy t974 Hello ,
does take command offer similar features to what macro utility applications offer, or is quite different ? Thanks !
Jul 25 2019 at 1:13am Copy Link
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Rex Conn Take Command supports macros as a (very) small part of its overall feature set. If you are only looking for a macro utility then Take Command is probably more than you need. If you're looking for a more powerful command processor, batch programming IDE, and tabbed console interface that also has support for macros, then give Take Command a try!
JP Software - Jul 25 2019 at 5:04am Copy Link
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Michael R. Will v25 fall into the 3-months-free-upgrade-window (or in other words: will today's buyers get v25 for free)?
Jul 26 2019 at 3:05am Copy Link
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guy t974 I have bought a copy , the learning curve seems to be steep , but the potential to do much more than what windows explorer has to offer in terms of file manipulation for instance seems also to be worthwhile. I'll probably need to ask for help on the forums though :)
Jul 26 2019 at 5:51am Copy Link
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Rex Conn Michael R. - yes, v25 will be a free upgrade for today's buyers.
JP Software - Jul 26 2019 at 6:07am Copy Link
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Rex Conn guy1974 - please do visit our support forums (https://jpsoft.com/forums). We have a very active community of users that love to help out.
JP Software - Jul 26 2019 at 6:13am Copy Link
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Matt Hello Rex,

I purchased an earlier version of Take Command here on BDJ.

Are you able to offer a discount for your past customers that want to upgrade to the current version?

Thank you.
Jul 26 2019 at 9:11am Copy Link
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Rex Conn The BdJ deal is for new copies only. The problem with discounting upgrades as well is after splitting the payments with BdJ, we would lose money on every upgrade order. (We break even on the new copy orders - the hope is that we'll attract new users who will upgrade in the future.)
JP Software - Jul 26 2019 at 10:06am Copy Link
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Matt Hi Rex,

I can understand that.

I just bought version 24.

Thank you for your willingness to offer us the free upgrade to version 25!
Jul 26 2019 at 1:34pm Copy Link
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Michael R. Thanks for the answer, just bought it.

Another question about a maybe later purchase of the extended support (including upgrades):

Is it sufficent to have a licence of any former version of TakeCommand, even if it is not the latest version or has been purchased earlier than one year?
OR
What's the latest date, I have to buy extended support (for $39), after my purchase today?

Thanks a lot...
Jul 26 2019 at 7:12pm Copy Link
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Rex Conn Extended Support can only be ordered together with a new or upgrade order.
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