Virus Scan for DeskRule

Chris According to the fine print, this is a one version only.

'Upgrades to future versions of the software will require additional payment. Installing a new version may overwrite the existing version and invalidate your license key.'

Is thus correct?

Dec 2 2015 at 5:04am Copy Link

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nikos bozinis the version of deskrule you buy will be yours to keep forever. You also get guaranteed upgrades and support for a year. After that there is no guarantee but you could get more free upgrades for some time.

Zabkat - Dec 2 2015 at 5:16am Copy Link

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Petr Hello Nikos,

I checked your website for details. Please confirm that:

#1. DeskRule will not use extra disk space for its own indexing?

#2. How does DeskRule search files that are not in drives or folders that I've specified to NOT INDEX (in Windows)? I have SSD drives so they're fast, but I understand indexed searches are always fastest. So, how does it work on folders not indexed?

#3. Can I install one purchase on my desktop and laptop? (2 computers for same user)?

Thank you.
Peter

Dec 3 2015 at 1:16am Copy Link

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singularity As far as I know from the trial.. the app depends on Windows search Index?

Dec 3 2015 at 2:46am Copy Link

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nikos bozinis deskrule doesn't depend on the widnows search index, however it takes advantage of it. If there is an index, it will first check it for quick results, otherwise it uses its own search engine without an index.

regarding licensing, the license is per user, so if you have 10 computers to yourself you only need one key for all of them

Zabkat - Dec 3 2015 at 3:54am Copy Link

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singularity
Thank you for answering.
So far the app performs well.
Do consider upgrading the UI. The icons and window looks a bit dated on Win 8 +

Dec 3 2015 at 6:01am Copy Link

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Andreas Hoffmann Hi Nikos, just evaluating your software... looks fine!
You write on your website, Deskrule can search as fast as "everything" on local NTFS?
And I already see, DeskRule searches in DOC-Files. Does it search in DOCX and PDF, too?

Are there any plans for a service or so, as everything did, for MFT(?)-Searching, so that the main-program does not need to run as admin?
Thanks in advance + greetings - Andreas

Dec 3 2015 at 7:09am Copy Link

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Dunking Tried to download the demo for this and got blocked by Comodo - source of malware, it says. Thinking that bits wouldn't allow anything dodgy, I overrode Comodo and gave it a whirl anyway. Imagine my surprise when, on completing install, Firefox comes up and wants to install the Cookie Controller add-on.

Was this just a coincidence or what?

Dec 3 2015 at 8:49am Copy Link

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Hourglass94 Nikos
Can this tool search between drives?

eg I have data drives D,E,F,G and H would I be able to search for a criteria with one search or would I need to search each drive seperately?

thanks in advance

Dec 3 2015 at 9:25am Copy Link

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nikos bozinis @Andreas
the program Everything is a misnomer since it only searches for filenames, whereas DeskRule actually searches for _everything_, including file contents and around 300 file properties :)

DeskRule supports MFT search also but you must run it as administrator for that extra quick search mode. For more information see the quickstart guide (click on the question mark toolbar icon)

@Dunking
Deskrule isn't a virus and it isn't bundled with any add ons either

@Hourglass94
an easy way to search all your drives is to root the search on MyComputer (ThisPC). Either right click on MyComputer icon and pick "search with DeskRule" command, or click on the folder selector within deskrule to choose MyComputer as the root of the search

Zabkat - Dec 3 2015 at 9:32am Copy Link

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Andreas Hoffmann Hi Nikos,
thanks for your answer., will take a look!
Any idea for me about searching in DOCX- and PDF-Files?

Dec 3 2015 at 9:45am Copy Link

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nikos bozinis if you have the necessary filters installed then it searches in DOCX and PDF. If you find that it doesn't search some file type there are free filters you can install that can be used both for deskrule and windows search. For more information see here
www.zabkat.com/x2plugins.htm
I recommed you installed the free trial and see what kind of files it can search for you. Chances are you already have all the necessary filters

Zabkat - Dec 3 2015 at 9:48am Copy Link

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nikos bozinis sorry I don't know this filesearchy, but if you check the website (www.zabkat.com/deskrule) there is a comparison table for some big names in desktop search. Of course don't take my word for it, make use of the free trial version to double check it works for you. You have at least 12 hours to make up your mind :)

Zabkat - Dec 3 2015 at 10:42am Copy Link

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Dunking @nikos:
"@Dunking
Deskrule isn't a virus and it isn't bundled with any add ons either "

I beleive Comodo is concerned about the website rather than the file, but I don't know why.

Concerning the add-on, I can report that it was indeed a coincidence. I am sure you appreciate that one needs to be quite circumspect nowadays when trying unknown software, but I am happy to acknowledge that deskrule is perfectly straight-up software.

Dec 3 2015 at 12:00pm Copy Link

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Great News! zabkat has agreed to extend this deal for another day - Enjoy!

BitsDuJour Admin - Dec 4 2015 at 12:11am Copy Link

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Edward Smith I, like Robert, use file searchy. So far I am extremely happy with the program, and I am not looking just another program to add to my computer. However, if this program has a distinct vantage, I would love to know about it. I am not asking anyone to do my homework for me, but if anyone has experience with both programs, I would be interested in their experience.

Dec 4 2015 at 4:03am Copy Link

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nikos bozinis I haven't used filesearchy but from a quick overview of their website I see it searches for filenames, file contents and basic date/size properties. DeskRule offers you a choice of 300 file properties to search, and very fast contents search in indexed locations. If you just search for filenames then DeskRule doesn't offer any advantages

Zabkat - Dec 4 2015 at 4:32am Copy Link

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Dunking "DeskRule offers you a choice of 300 file properties to search" For anyone that hasn't tried this in anger, it will do matches like "subversion revision <= 100" (alone or combined with all the other possible things). If you need/want that kind of thing, I don't know of any other searcher/indexer that will do it.

Dec 4 2015 at 5:02am Copy Link

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CFGuy I am recieving an error message when trying to purchase this program. The message is "Not Found - We were unable to find the requested file or resource", and occurs right after I have entered my name, address ... and before moving to the screen of entering payment information for the order.

Dec 4 2015 at 3:48pm Copy Link

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nikos bozinis the payment page should work; try using a different browser with standard settings and see if it helps

Zabkat - Dec 4 2015 at 9:40pm Copy Link

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singularity No offer on the Lite version? It would be adequate for most users.

Jun 24 2016 at 3:16am Copy Link

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nikos bozinis the lite version isn't on offer today but send me an email and I'll offer a small discount there. See the website for contact details

Zabkat - Jun 24 2016 at 3:48am Copy Link

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TAPTRONIC How do I register the program in the software? I cant find anywhere to input my license information...

Jun 24 2016 at 7:07am Copy Link

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nikos bozinis your key will be asked in 24 hours from installation. Please read the registration email for more information

Zabkat - Jun 24 2016 at 8:12am Copy Link

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Danny This license user or computer -related? When entering licensing information is also machine number listed .

Jun 24 2016 at 8:58am Copy Link

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TAPTRONIC Thank you Nikos.

Jun 24 2016 at 9:07am Copy Link

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Edward Smith I purchased this last time it was offered on BDJ, and I will buy an additional license today. I have X1 and stopped using it because this works so well. Minimal resources and very quick - and a crazy amount of options. Makes finding files easy.

I am curious why it is called "Desktop Rulez" on my computer once installed, and here it is called Deskrule?

Jun 24 2016 at 9:20am Copy Link

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Techtoysavvy I have Xplorer2 Ultimate.
Does that include Deskrule search?
.. Ultimate does claim better search

Jun 24 2016 at 10:40am Copy Link

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Danny DeskRule is as good or better as Copernic Desktop Search?

Jun 24 2016 at 11:45am Copy Link

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nikos bozinis @Danny licensing is per USER (and any # of computers)

@Techtoysavvy xplorer2 ultimate has almost as capable search engine, but as deskrule is purpose built for search, it goes the extra mile (e.g. advanced Boolean expressions and the desktop detective)

@Danny deskrule can do many more properties than Copernic or any other search engine, see the comparison table at the bottom of the website
www.zabkat.com/deskrule

Zabkat - Jun 24 2016 at 1:59pm Copy Link

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singularity @Danny yeah it works better than Copernic in terms of advanced serches based on properties and real fast in folder search. Lighter and without it's own Index. But for a normal user copernic works very well and has a way better UI.

Deskrule could use much better user interface. Adjusting the coloumns constant width is a pain. And icons are dated for modern windows versions. Looks like an app made for XP in windows 10.

Jun 24 2016 at 2:28pm Copy Link

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TAPTRONIC I like the old looking interface. Cant stand that windows 10 / ios / etc "flat look".. PLEASE dont discard the old interface if you rework it! At least give some of us the option to keep the old one. :-)

Jun 24 2016 at 3:40pm Copy Link

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singularity @NC Buyer I did not mean the metro look. i meant the way Evernote and Directory Opus do with their UI. Not dated and not too modern. They get along well with any Windows versions. Also the windows are responsive. No need to arrange. These apps adjusts itself to screen sizes.
If i compare with another search utility I would prefer a more compact and resposive UI of BinaryFortress Fileseek pro, and it is not "flat" and "modern"... which by the way does searches pretty quickly too, though properties and options are no where close to Deskrules.

Jun 24 2016 at 5:44pm Copy Link

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TAPTRONIC @dtouch - ah, ok. I understand now.

Jun 24 2016 at 8:05pm Copy Link

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nikos bozinis @dtouch not sure what you mean by "Adjusting the coloumns constant width". You can right click on a toolbar and pick "auto arrange" menu

Zabkat - Jun 24 2016 at 10:07pm Copy Link

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singularity @nikos For eg: I like my apps maximized windows. And if the apps have columns.. i would adjust its width to my preference. Deskrule resets that each time I launch it unless I am missing some setting to preserve coulumn widths. I don't want to auto arrange or manually arrange each time.

Jun 25 2016 at 8:42am Copy Link

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Petr I've been waiting for a deal on DeskRule. Glad it is coming. I have some pre-sale questions please?

Q1: Does DeskRule build it's own index? Or, does it use a pre-existing index that's a part of Microsoft's search? My concern, for my large disks and data stores, that a separate index would use too much disk space.

Q2: I've previously tried to use your software on another machine. Although it has powerful options, I find the user interface not intuitive. I think a proper tutorial video with several explicit examples would make me more confident. Better yet, several short, separate video tutorials to cover specific search scenarios. What visual resources do you have available to get me up-and-running with your software quickly?

Q3: Often, I want to have quick access to certain folders so I can save new files or locate existing files. Does DeskRule have a quick option to search and list only folders (on local and network drives)?

Q4: I am looking for ways to edit certain meta data fields (tags and comments) and then quickly create a list of files and/or folders with certain specified tags. For example, I might want to assign a tag "project5" to certain files that are saved in various folders. Then, quickly search and list all files that have "project5" as one of the tags. The tag field may have several tags entered, for example: "project5; licensedMedia; sourceIStock", with DeskRule being able to pick out any occurrence of a tag.

Q5: Lastly, this may not be a DeskRule questions, but I'm looking for a utility or file manager that enables me to edit file meta data fields (such as tag and comments) in a spreadsheet-like layout. I want to quickly assign the same tags to multiple files. Ideally, to be able to edit meta data fields like with a spreadsheet with cells in rows and columns. Can you point me to any such utility or file manager? And, will DeskRule be able to search on such meta data? Thank you.

Mar 2 2017 at 9:43am Copy Link

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singularity This deal is for the lite edition? Is there one for the full version too?

Mar 2 2017 at 12:23pm Copy Link

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nikos bozinis @singularity: the deal is both for lite and full versions, you choose which one you need

Zabkat - Mar 2 2017 at 10:30pm Copy Link

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nikos bozinis @petr
Q1: no, it reuses the windows search index
Q2: there are many demo videos available under the help (question mark) toolbar button. You can also press F1 key to see the help
Q3: there is an attribute available called IsFolder. This allows you to search for files, folders or both. Click the + toolbar button to add this rule
Q4: deskrule can search for tags. If you add two or more tags, it will try to find BOTH. However you can use the Advanced search panel to specify that you want to find the tags in an OR fashion.
Q5: xplorer2 can do this spreadsheet like editing, see www.zabkat.com/blog/xls-folders.htm

Zabkat - Mar 2 2017 at 10:35pm Copy Link

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Petr @Nicos, Thanks for your answers. Looks excellent and also like your Xplorer2. Especially the edit-in-place file attribute editor, works like a spreadsheet. Just what I want.

Q1: For ONE license purchase of DeskRule Elite edition, how many of my personal computers can I install it on.

Q2: Same question for Zplorer2, how many of my personal computers can I install ONE license purchase on?

Mar 3 2017 at 10:50am Copy Link

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singularity I am not getting the discounted price on sales page. Just the regular price.
Screenshot : https://vgy.me/1nMsn6.png

Mar 3 2017 at 12:26pm Copy Link

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Constantin Florea @singularity, The issue you mention is a problem we did encounter before often in case of FastSpring promotions. To fix it, please clear your browser cache and cookies and try to purchase again. It should work.

BitsDuJour Admin - Mar 3 2017 at 12:30pm Copy Link

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Chris @ Petr

Each license allows installation on all owned computers, and DeskRule may be used at exactly the same time on each of them.
Transfer of a license to another owned computer is allowed.

Each license allows installation on all owned computers, but xplorer² may not be used at exactly the same time on each of them.
Transfer of a license to another owned computer is allowed.

Mar 3 2017 at 1:49pm Copy Link

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Chuck Brotman Hi,

I'm a long time (and happy) user of Nikos's xplorer2-ult, I have some questions about this offer -- and yes I know I'm late to the party and probably missed it... :(

It seems that the pricing here is the same as on the zabkat Deskrule Website. I.E. $20 for the lite version $40 for the full. If I'm understanding this correctly, This is not a "deal", just a restatement of the standard offer! What am I missing????

Nikos makes great software and if there is a discount on the full version, I'd love to take advantage of it. . .

Mar 6 2017 at 3:02pm Copy Link

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nikos bozinis @Chuck, sadly this promotion is over, so what you see are the normal purchase prices

Zabkat - Mar 6 2017 at 10:08pm Copy Link

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Chuck Brotman Nikos,

Oh, Dang... all I ever saw was the "regular price so I hesitated and I guess I missed out on the deal. Maybe Next time(!!??)

Thanks,
Chuck

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Mar 7 2017 at 1:31pm Copy Link

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PortablesFan Sounds useful, and it looks like this software has a portable mode! :-)

I'm hoping to get this one when it goes on sale; thanks to the dev for 1) including portable functionality, and 2) doing a BdJ promotion!

Oct 16 2017 at 8:30am Copy Link

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DH007 Do I still need to wait at least 24 hours before I can insert a key?

Oct 17 2017 at 6:26am Copy Link

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nikos bozinis you don't need to wait. If you want to use your key immediately start deskrule using /D command line switch. Make sure you fully quit deskrule first with ALT+X and you run deskrule elevated. All and all it's much simpler to let deskrule ask for your key :)

Zabkat - Oct 18 2017 at 12:26am Copy Link

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MSWallack When I try to purchase this, the website shows the regular price, not the discounted price.

Oct 18 2017 at 7:08am Copy Link

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nikos bozinis do you have another browser to try? I see orders coming in so there isn't a generic problem for everybody

Zabkat - Oct 18 2017 at 8:13am Copy Link

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PortablesFan In the Fine Print here I read, "Upgrades to future versions of the software will require additional payment. Installing a new version may overwrite the existing version and invalidate your license key. Support is provided up to when the next major version is released." (The first part sounds more like a "giveaway" license policy...)

However, on your website FAQ (http://zabkat.com/deskrule/faq.htm), it says "What is the upgrade policy for DeskRule?
At present there's no decision either way; upgrades may be free or there may have to be paid for. When you purchase DeskRule you are guaranteed to receive free updates and support for at least a year."

What upgrade/support policy ACTUALLY governs today's deal?
Thank you!

Oct 18 2017 at 9:55am Copy Link

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Ed Dupuis Great question. Just what IS the upgrade policy?

Oct 18 2017 at 2:48pm Copy Link

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nikos bozinis as the FAQ says, there is no upgrade policy. You may or may not need to pay again. You get guaranteed upgrades for a year. I would concentrate on whether you like what the program does NOW and base your decision on that

Zabkat - Oct 18 2017 at 9:58pm Copy Link

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nikos bozinis like the FAQ says, there is no upgrade policy as of yet, other than you get free upgrades for a year. You may need to pay for future upgrades. However I should base my decision on whether you like Deskrule for what it does NOW and worry about upgrades later.

Zabkat - Oct 18 2017 at 10:00pm Copy Link

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PortablesFan "concentrate on...what the program does NOW..."
^ Absolutely agree, for this software and any other.
I was (we were?) just wanting to make sure that this BdJ license was "in the same boat," so to speak, as a normal license bought directly from your site.
Tried it last night and getting it now; thanks!

Oct 18 2017 at 11:38pm Copy Link

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Caveman I totally recommend this software and Nikos is always ready to help you. Same applies for Xplorer2.

Oct 19 2017 at 4:23am Copy Link

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Mark Lynam Hi there,
I'm adding on to Caveman's recommendation.... I've bought Nikos' software without the discount (xplorer2 & deskrule) and would do it again. For half-off, give it a whirl.

Oct 19 2017 at 6:34am Copy Link

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Allan User The purchasing links don't give you the BDJ discount.
Why not?

Oct 19 2017 at 7:29am Copy Link

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nikos bozinis Allan, please try a different browser if you have it, and it should work

Zabkat - Oct 19 2017 at 8:49am Copy Link

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HJ B Nothing beats the application called "Everything" for searches based on file name or various properties.

I purchased the "standard" version of this program, "DeskRule", becaue it does a pretty good job of enabling search of content, I have yet to explore that various options it provides.

I used the program for a while yesterday on the trial basis, before purchasing.

I found peculiar, however, the program registration process. After purchase, you get an email that provides a registration key and a registration reference.

I went to the program to enter the registration key, but I could find nonr of the typical menu items or buttons that start the registration/activation process. I went back to the developer's email, and found the following sentence: "To use it, first copy out the key text above (e.g. using ), then start DeskRule and in the opening screen click on the button I HAVE AN UNLOCK KEY, then follow the instructions. If you can't see this opening screen, please wait one day, DeskRule won't nag you on the very first day!"

So, today, I restarted the program, but no Unlock Key Button appeared. I will wait a few more days to be nagged. It is strange as are some of the other aspects to the interface..

The documentation is in the form of a webpage. It is unfortunate that this develop[er and many others fail to put their documentation in the form of a pdf.

Oct 19 2017 at 10:05am Copy Link

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geo User Does anyone know if Desk Rule can search in .vhd files?
How does the Lite version compares with the search capabilities in Xplorer2?

Thanks everyone!

Oct 19 2017 at 3:32pm Copy Link

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nikos bozinis you can mount a VHD as a drive letter then deskrule will search in it, see
www.zabkat.com/blog/mount...d-disk.htm

Zabkat - Oct 19 2017 at 9:55pm Copy Link

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Robert Crombie My main PC (with masses of files) is XP.
This does not cater for XP

Oct 20 2017 at 1:52am Copy Link

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nikos bozinis sorry deskrule is for vista and later. If you need a good search engine for XP and older platforms see our xplorer2 (www.zabkat.com)

Zabkat - Oct 20 2017 at 3:28am Copy Link

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Sandy User I think it's a bit of bait and switch marketing. It indicates AT THE TOP that the price is $19.95 - plain as day for DeskRule. But if you try to buy it, that turns out to be the price for the Lite version, which isn't what this webpage says (at the top), though at the bottom of this page in smaller (but bold) print there is an admission of the two version and two prices.

But then even if you click to buy the Lite version, the price comes up at $39.95.

On top of that my current version is called Desktop (search) Rulez. This one is called DeskRule. I have no certain confidence that they are the same product. Maybe they are, maybe they are not. But there is no clarity, for me. Certainly not the same name. They are both Zabkat. When did the name change?

I was going to buy a couple licenses for my kids. Does anyone know if this is even the same product?

Oct 25 2017 at 1:35am Copy Link

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nikos bozinis @Sandy User, the prices are different because the sale is over. What you see now are the regular prices. As for the program, yes it is the same, that's what it normally says in the titlebar. If you need a (small) discount you can contact me and we can work something out:
www.zabkat.com/deskrule/contact.htm

Zabkat - Oct 25 2017 at 1:47am Copy Link

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Peter Dr This offer is for the Lite version, is it not?

Apr 20 2018 at 12:45am Copy Link

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Northern sp. z o.o. I use and i recommend - must have on pc...

Apr 20 2018 at 2:39am Copy Link

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Northern sp. z o.o. I use and recommend - must have on PC

Apr 20 2018 at 2:42am Copy Link

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nikos bozinis the offer is both for lite and full versions

Zabkat - Apr 20 2018 at 9:32am Copy Link

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Luther I just ordered the Standard Version via PayPal. I was charged $39.95 = tax. No coupon was presented to me. I still have received no activation code. Please have Paypal refund the difference so my price is what is advertised.

Apr 20 2018 at 9:43am Copy Link

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Constantin Florea @Luther, I have just contacted the vendor to help with the issue you mention.

In case of FastSpring sales, like this one here, it is possible that the regular price will show up instead of the discounted price. This can be easily fixed if you clear the browser cache and cookies and try the purchase flow again.

BitsDuJour Admin - Apr 20 2018 at 12:48pm Copy Link

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Peter Dr @ nikos bozins: Oops! I just had to look up a bit to see the offer... My dumb. Thanks.

Apr 20 2018 at 7:12pm Copy Link

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Techtoysavvy just got the standard version
xplorer2 user.

Apr 20 2018 at 7:56pm Copy Link

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Todd User Under the "THE FINE PRINT" tab here on BitsDuJour, it states the following: "Each license allows installation on all owned computers, and DeskRule may be used at exactly the same time on each of them."

But on the DeskRule website ( https://www.zabkat.com/deskrule/lite.htm ), it states "Price Per Seat $20 / $40".

The terminology "Price per Seat" implies that it can only be used on one machine, which is contradicted by the statement on the BitsDuJour site.

Which is the correct number of installations allowed?? I searched the Zabkat website for a EULA or further license terms, and cannot find anything on the site.

thanks

Apr 20 2018 at 9:34pm Copy Link

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Todd User *** UPDATED***
It is bizarre, but I found that the discount is passed to the FastSpring site when using Internet Explorer, but NOT when using Microsoft Edge browser. So, I was able to purchase at the discount price using Internet Explorer.
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I was going to purchase the Standard version, but as reported by Luther, the price showing on the FastSpring checkout site is not discounted. It appears that the discount code is not being passed to the FastSpring site, and at checkout, it is the regular price.

@Constantin: I tried following your suggestion to Luther to clear the browser cache, but it does not make any difference.

Apr 20 2018 at 9:50pm Copy Link

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nikos bozinis @Luther I will refund $20, sorry about the trouble

Zabkat - Apr 21 2018 at 12:30am Copy Link

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Luther Ok, Nikos Bozinis and I were typing at the same time. He is refunding the difference. Thank you Nikos.

Todd, I'm glad you made the purchase at the discounted price.

Apr 21 2018 at 12:36am Copy Link

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Robert Crombie Does it search within files for a word or words ?

Regarding index you say -
"Utilize windows search index when available; if not use a reliable search alternative "
I detest Windows indexing running in the background And I always have it switched off.
What is "use a reliable search alternative"

Apr 21 2018 at 2:27am Copy Link

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nikos bozinis Robert, the "reliable alternative" is choo-choo search. It opens files one by one, and searches for text inside them, without using an index. As you can understand this is reliable but quite slow. Indexing adds speed

Zabkat - Apr 21 2018 at 7:48am Copy Link

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M User Ok, just bought it...

- Where can I put in my licence key (after 34 years high-end IT - as a senior IT-er ... Where??!!)
- In the 'Help'menu ... it opens the links (as Advanced Mode, ...) in good old ... Internet Explorer??? WTF!!!!???? After all those years EOL IE!!!

Not happy with this frustrating way of development!!!!!

Apr 21 2018 at 10:41am Copy Link

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Luther M User ... THANK YOU! I also am a lifetime (now retired) IT professional. Like you, I cannot find out HOW to enter the registration key. I'm having the same frustrations you mentioned with entering the key, and with the browser. My default browser should open as you suggest (in my case, Firefox).

Apr 21 2018 at 11:00am Copy Link

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peter anon To register, you have to have the unlock code in the CLIPBOARD, "before" you start the program. Make sure the program is really quit to start with. It does seem a little "fussy" - I had to quit/restart 3 times. But the startup enter UNLOCK CODE< opened third time lucky.

Apr 21 2018 at 8:12pm Copy Link

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nikos bozinis wrt using the key, deskrule doesn't nag you for it in the first 24 hours. But when you restart it after a day or so, you will be asked for the key. For more information please read the instructions that came with the unlock key email

Zabkat - Apr 21 2018 at 11:01pm Copy Link

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Robert Crombie I avoid Documents and settings like the plague (it is like a mine-shaft dug by a rabid wombat).
I believe the following is a necessity in a Search program -
The ability to exclude folders like -
- Windows
- Documents and Settings
- Programs
Can your program do that.
Rob
PS can I get it to show Menus ?

Apr 22 2018 at 3:59am Copy Link

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nikos bozinis deskrule searches under a root folder, or a collection of root folders. If you don't search everywhere but e.g. under your documents folder or something even more particular, deskrule won't search in c:\windows or program files. If you want more control I recommend the other program we have called xplorer2, where you can setup a folder blackist in the registry to permanently exclude certain folders. See www.zabkat.com

Zabkat - Apr 22 2018 at 6:08am Copy Link

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Michael R. How does the search work?

Does DR run every time through all files on the harddisk or on previously stored (or a mixture on both)?

Is it possible to scan all external drives (and save their fileinfo-data) and search for fitting content without they being plugged in?

Oct 30 2018 at 10:42pm Copy Link

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nikos bozinis deskrule uses the windows search index for your local hard drives. It is also possible to add external drives to the search index for faster search, but they must be connected if you want to search in them

to configure the search index (add external drives etc) use your START button and type "indexing options". This is all outside deskrule

deskrule can also search without the search index, but the search will be slower. Why don't you get the free trial and see for yourself?

Zabkat - Oct 31 2018 at 1:19am Copy Link

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Michael R. Hi, thanks for the fast answer. Point is, I have a lot of harddisks, even some 3,5'' from former desktops (while now I only have a laptop), which would require to put them into an adapter, one by one. This is no problem, doing it once, but every single time for every HD would be not only not comfortable, but would also damage the harddisk-interface.

Do you have plans to make an external harddisk searchable by your search-index files, without having to plug it in - of course with probably a smaller variety of search options, because only few file-data are stored within the index-files - in a future version?

Right now I am looking for some pics, taken within a certain date-range and could be stored anywhere (if they still exist any more). So probably the data in the index-file would be sufficent for me... in the meantime and sometimes I am looking for certain files (e.g. pics within a certain range), which could be on any HD (or might be even lost at all).

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Mark Harper Nikos I have been an Xplorer2 Ultimate user since launch and would like to know if Deskrule has anything that is not present in Xplorer2 Ultimate. Could you please explain any differences?

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Rob Hi Nikos, are you planning on discounting the PRO version? I'm interested in the advanced Boolean features and the ability to store macros.

I've some hesitation about buying it though, the UI is so unintuitive. No doubt about it it's a powerful search app but I find the interface so un-user friendly. I've watched the tutorial videos and even then don't have much of a clue. Of course this is my own subjective view and please take it as a users constructive critique.

I can't seem to find any user options - (to turn off the voice prompts). Also I can't seem to find how to do a simple contents search on two separate terms. If I'm searching a PDFs contents for the word Enlightenment and the word Foucault. Perhaps you could enlighten me ;)
Thanks.

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nikos bozinis @Michael R
you gave me a good idea about this "offline searching" so I will definitely consider it for a future deskrule version

@Mark Harper
deskrule is quite similar to xplorer2 ultimate, however as it is purpose built for search it has some advantages, e.g. Boolean complex searches, finding pictures by geotag (map). I also find the UI cleaner, but other people disagree :)

@Rob
both full and lite deskrule editions are on sale
regarding its UI, I am not sure which part you find unintuitive; each search property has its own box. If you need NAME, you add it in name (full name or part, or wildcard or regular expression). If you leave a box blank, it doesn't take part into the search.
If you put in two words in the CONTENTS box, it will search for both terms (answering your other question). For more accurate search control you can use the Advanced search panel.
To turn off speech and other options, use the OPTIONS toolbar button

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Rob Thanks Nick.
Yes, regarding the search, I thought you had to enter terms such as +Dialectics,+Foucault, I was overthinking it.

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Pavel User I think now is not 100 % searching program for all. Always is necessary, what do You want…
DeskRule:-

- big dependency on Windows Search index (slow searching without)
- upgrades free or money(?, author doesn't know now)
- for somebody ugly GUI

+ active developing
+ very good developer (also author of xplorer2 - one of the best replacement for WIN 10 File Explorer)
+ good and fast support

I think better choice is DeskRule Standard than Lite version

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Mark Lynam +1 on the developer's responsiveness!

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Ben User Hi Nikos, any way of purchasing a lifetime update option like Xplorer2 Ultimate?
What about a portable mode like Xplorer2 Ultimate?

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Ben User Also, there NEED to be a register option in the help drop down. The current implementation is not a good design at all.
I've opened and closed the program a few times and the nag screen doesn't come on, so I can't register... :facepalm:
Also, you need to take a good look at the initial/default position of the search bars, cuz right now they are abysmal.

The starting search folder need to be bit like the URL bar for browsers or path for Xplorer2, and right of it the filter. Both filling up an entire row.
I like the input field as long as possible for clear view, so I have the Name with the buttons on another row, then the Contents, Date Modified, and Type fields on the third row.

Now I need an option to lock the bars to their respectful location or an arrangement setting save/load function.

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nikos bozinis don't worry about using your key, in one day deskrule will ask for it. You can't escape the registration :)

you can save toolbar boxes and locations using the Default rules toolbar button (see the drop-down portion). Also you can automatically arrange all the toolbar boxes as explained here www.zabkat.com/blog/deskrule-basics.htm

finally you can have deskrule portable if you set it to save settings next to the program in an INI file (see the program options)

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Robert User @Ben User:
"any way of purchasing a lifetime update option like Xplorer2 Ultimate? "

Good question but I notice that part of your question was not answered.
In the Check for updates dialog, it suggests that there is a Lifetime option:

"Before downloading a newer version please keep in mind that upgrade charges may apply (unless you own the free lifetime upgrades cover)"

I have not seen any reference that a lifetime license is being offered however.

Also, the Fine Print section suggests that there are not any updates (minor version numbers) that can be installed:

"Upgrades to future versions of the software will require additional payment. Installing a new version may overwrite the existing version and invalidate your license key."

It is not clear what "new version" means in this case. If it also includes minor version numbers (which would be newer versions technically), you cannot even install the minor version numbers of the software from what you started with. Installing minor updates is considered industry standard but maybe not in this case, which is the first time I have seen wording like this for licensing.

The only download links are for the last published version, which is currently 2.0.0.0. So if you purchased a license for any 1.x version, you cannot download the last 1.x version, which appears to have been 1.6.2.0 (22 October 2018) per the Changelog.

All of this is rather odd given that it comes from developer Nikos Bozinis, the same developer as xplorer2 Ultimate, which does have a lifetime license available, and has the older versions available for download so users can catch up with what their license allows.

I hope Nikos can straighten this out in favor of users that want to continue supporting him.

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Ben User Hi Robert, I purchased the DeskRule in the last sale out of trust in Nikos. So here are some of my thoughts: 1) Update/Upgrade: I'm not sure what Nikos have in mind in the future about DeskRule's licensing, but the fine print is currently incorrect. You can freely install 2.0.0 without needing to pay for upgrade. More so, there isn't even a place on the website to purchase upgrade. 2) UI I would still really really like a lock option on all the menu/search/filter bars because they are extremely easy to change location and size :< 3) Offline Index I really wish there's a way to manually initiate and rebuild the new offline index, and an option to only search in that index. Makes disabling windows indexing service a lot viable.

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nikos bozinis guys I would prefer if you used the proper support channels for your daily issues. The (zabkat) website has a CONTACT page

wrt upgrades, at present they are free, but they MAY be paid in the future. But for the time being you can get v2 as a free upgrader

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nikos bozinis guys I would prefer if you used the proper support channels for your daily issues. The (zabkat) website has a CONTACT page

wrt upgrades, at present they are free, but they MAY be paid in the future. But for the time being you can get v2 as a free upgrade!

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Mark Harper Does this offer include lifetime upgrades to all future versions? If not how much will the cost for a version upgrade be?

How much would it be to pay for lifetime upgrades as I have these with Xplorer2 Ultimate?

As a license holder for Xplorer2 does DeskRule give anything more than the search facility in Xplorer2 Ultimate?

The fine print states that license activation is not required but I'm sure that it is so I wondered if all the other details in the fine print were complete.

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JOI Tried to purchase with 50% off deal, but when directed to the site https://sites.fastspring....er/confirm no coupon code and shows up as regular price?

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nikos bozinis @Mark Harper, at present deskrule doesn't charge for updates, but it is not guaranteed to stay like this forever. Deskrule is comparable to xplorer2 ultimate search but as a purpose built search engine it is easier to use (IMHO) and has some extra tricks like the catalog search for offline storage, GPS photo search and the desktop detective. See here
http://www.zabkat.com/des...search.htm

@JOI, the coupon exists, please try using a different internet browser if you can

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Mark Harper Thank for the info Nikos. Just tried to purchase using Firefox and it shows full price. However, Chrome works so anyone with the same issue be aware of this.

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Marc User I have Xplorer2 Ultimate and find it to be an excellent and useful program. DeskRule also sounds very useful but I'd much prefer if it had an option to index the main drive. I don't use windows search and my current search program manually indexes the main drive every night through a batch file.

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Mark Harper @Marc User I've just bought this software and from what I've read so far you can add frequently searched locations to the Windows search index and DeskRule will use the Windows index.

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nikos bozinis @Marc User windows index isn't the resource hog it used to be. I am sure you will find it more gentle than your present solution if you turn it on, then you can add as many drives as you like. You will find the search speed increase hard to believe!

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HJ B If I right click on a folder, the context menu gives me the ability to limit my search to that folder.

1. If I right click on the desktop, no DeskRule option is presented.

2. If I click on MyPC, the context menu only searches the C drive. Is there a way to search across all drives that are on line? I know that if I click on a particular drive, it will search that drive.

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nikos bozinis if you right click on "myPC" (or thisPC) deskrule will search all the LOCAL drives, including those attached USB and mapped network. What kind of drive do you want to search that doesn't fall under myPC?

also note you can add multiple top folders separating them with | e.g.
C:\ | d:\

yet another solution would be to type shell:Desktop in the folder to search box. I will make this easier for the next version

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Marc User @Mark @nikos - I prefer to not add un-necessary background tasks to my old 32-bit Win7 computer. My current solution is very gentle as it's only active at night when I'm not using the computer and it does a complete re-index of any active drives. It too can index and store offline drives. The only reason I'm looking at other options is that the search function is a little clunky.
Does DeskRule create it's own index for the offline catalog or does it use Windows search to create this too?

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nikos bozinis the offline catalog index database is created by deskrule. It is possible to add a local hard disk like c:\ in the "offline" catalog (see the registry tweak binFlags in the help file https://www.zabkat.com/de...tm#opt_reg) but it won't be kept up to date with files that change from day to day. The catalog is meant for drives that don't change (much)

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Marc User @nikos Is it possible to trigger a reindex by command line. I don't really need the current days files in the index.

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nikos bozinis you can add the same device (hard disk) in the offline catalog (index) which will effectively overwrite the old version. If you just store basic properties it could be doable. But you cannot do it in the command line. You could possibly do it with a UI macro though

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Amit Trying to buy std in chrome, but its showing full price only of $39. How to get the discount ?

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Bertie Brummel @ Amit: I bought a standard version yesterday using the Opera browser w/o any problems. Shows the correct price today too. Maybe it helps to clear your browser's cache?

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Gary User How do I register the program? When I start the program there is no opening screen and no button for “I have an unlock key” – It just opens to the search page. Clicking Help then About just tells me it is unregistered with a link to purchase or upgrade.

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Gary User After performing a search for text, at the bottom, it asks "didn't find what you were looking for, try robust search" or something similar. Clicking robust search cause the program to close.

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Gary User Does DeskRule search outlook emails? I'm impressed with the interface as opposed to X1 Search, but I need a search program that searches both office files (excel, word, and outlook) as well as pdf's. I've been using X1 Search for several years and it does a great job of finding text in files in outlook as well as pdf's and word and excel. If Deskrule doesn't search email files, then the interface isn't going to be enough to get me to switch.

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Bertie Brummel @ Gary:

You stopped reading your confirmation mail from zabkat to early :-)

"To use it, first copy out the key text above (e.g. using ), then start DeskRule and in the opening screen click on the button I HAVE AN UNLOCK KEY, then follow the instructions. If you can't see this opening screen, please wait one day, DeskRule won't nag you on the very first day!"

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Gary User I have my default browser set to chrome. Why does clicking on the help link in the program use Microsoft Internet Explorer? Cutting and pasting the help URL into microsoft file explorer starts Chrome (because it is the default browser). For security reasons, I prefer to NEVER open IE.

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HJ B @nikos

I have three internal drives and one external. When I do a search of This PC, the results only show finds on Drive C.

If I run the same search using Everything, the results show finds on all connected drives.

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nikos bozinis @Gary User deskrule uses IE for the help system. All content is local and there is no need to worry about "security". If you prefer to use your own browser you can manually locate the file called HELP.HTM in the installation folder

@HJB, deskrule searches in 2 phases, first using the index and then using a slower mode of its own. If your external drives are not in the windows search index, they won't be found in pass #1. You can click on the CLICK FOR ROBUST SEARCH button to initiate phase #2 (slow) search.

If your external drives are permanently connected, you can add them in the windows search index. If they are not, you can use deskrule's CATALOG (see the help file for details)

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Gary User when I click on "CLICK FOR ROBUST SEARCH" the program shuts down. Sometimes it restarts itself with an empty search pane. But it has yet to do a robust search.

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Gary User A regular search does find pdf files, but they do not show in the preview panel. Is there a setting I need to turn on to preview pdf files in the preview pane?

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Richard Blake The offline catalog intrigues me. Once I have loaded it with directory/attribute data from all my external hard drives, flash drives, etc, can DeskRule analyze it and report all duplicate files (same size and MD5 or other hash value, if those are collected) across volumes, or all files with duplicate name (possibly different revisions of same file)? (In such cases I would not search for a particular name - I am interested only in locating potential duplicates.) Can it find groups of sound files of equal or close duration (e.g. 10s or 2%, as I may specify), regardless of type (mp3, ogg, wav, etc). Can DR present a directory listing of an offline volume, i.e. list all files in the volume, in various sequences (alpha within directory; alpha; rev date; size)? Does the catalog record total space consumed and free space in each volume? That would be of value if I wish to reorganize data, e.g. move contents of some smaller volumes to a larger one. Thanks.

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Joe M Gary. I was having trouble viewing PDF files. When I selected Documents for Type in the settings, I was able to view most but not all of my PDF files.

Maybe Nikos will have a better answer.

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Amit Is deskrule std same as the search in Xplorer2 Ultimate? What are the diff.s besides cataloging ?

Also does buying the std here ensures lifetime upgrades if we buy at current date in bitsdujour, as above stated, or will we stop getting updates anytime in future, if we buy from this deal today? Please clarify.

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nikos bozinis @gary user, clearly robust search shouldn't be crashing, so if you want to take this further, please send me an email and we'll figure it out

if deskrule cannot preview or find text in PDF, probably you don't have a pdf text or/and preview handler installed. You can get handlers if you install something like Sumatra PDF: www.zabkat.com/blog/pdf-r...ration.htm

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nikos bozinis @Richard Blake at present the catalog is meant for searching, but I may add tools for discovering duplicates. For the present you can check such things with xplorer2, e.g. www.zabkat.com/blog/12Dec...finder.htm

@Joe McCormick see above my reply to gary; which program do you have installed for PDF?

@amit please read further up, I have answered both these questions

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Joe M nikos. I have Adobe Reader, PDF-Exchange, Power PDF 2, File Center Pro 10 and Wonder Share PDF Element 6 Pro.

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nikos bozinis adobe PDF in general doesn't work well with zabkat software. As you have so many PDF apps installed it is hard to tell which one is in control, but my guess is adobe, which doesn't work very well. If you send me a support email I can look into it further. The best lightweight PDF reader I recommend is sumatra

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Gary User OK - I'll email you about the robust search issue, but as for a PDF viewer, I use the full acrobat DC desktop program. X1 Search has no problem displaying pdf's in its view pane. Chrome has no problem displaying pdf's. So I suspect the problem is with DeskRule. Is it possible that Adobe has some sort of licensing requirement you would have had to purchase to use Acrobat as a pane viewer? If so, why not just be honest with consumers?

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Joe M nikos. Do you know if you will be offering your xplorer2 v4 professional and ultimate here at Bits?

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nikos bozinis there is no xplorer2 deal planned for this year

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Yosh M I tried to purchase the Standard version. When the PayPal process returned to the store page, the discount was gone! It was showing a charge for the full price. I did not complete the purchase. Please advise.

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nikos bozinis others manage to buy so it is not a problem for everyone. Please try using a different internet browser if you have it?

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Constantin Florea @Yosh M, Please clear your browser cache and cookies or use another browser which you didn't use to try and purchase this product before. This is a known issue for FastSpring purchase URLs and deleting the browser cookies and cache, usually solves it.

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Robert Bull I can't see a list of what exactly are the 300 file properties... please could you add such a list to your web site?

What I'd be interested in is searching EXIF tags of JPGs to see what *wasn't* present in certain tags (e.g. Author, copyright, whatever). Is that possible, please? If so, which version?

Thanks...

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nikos bozinis if you click on the green [+] toolbar icon you will see the properties available. There is a property selector in that dialog box, so you can select properties that are e.g. related to pictures (exif). For more information watch the demo video available further up

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Robert Crombie My PCs are old, and W7 and W10 runs like a dog on them (Too much stuff running in the background - MS's nasty habits)
Whereas XP runs well and fast.
The provider of today's 'giveaway' has made my decision as to whether to purchase, an easy decision.
As XP is where I do 95% of my computing, and that is where this program might have been useful.
This program does not run on XP.

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nikos bozinis if you want good search on XP see the other program we have, xplorer2:
www.zabkat.com

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HJ B If I have a folder of files, will this program produce a list of the Tags and Keywords associated with those files?

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nikos bozinis HJB deskrule is a search engine, it looks like you need a file manager like xplorer2. If you turn on the tags and keywords file details then you can see them and even export the information to CSV

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Egon User This is not to be seen as criticism, I'm perfectly aware of the market situation, and this is a very good offer here.

So: The search for "deskrule outlook" did not get any hit (yet); search tools which include OL searches cost 2 to 3 times the price here; it's obvious though that OL inclusion would make this offer even more appealing.

And: Again, I'm aware of the market, and other search tools don't offer this functionality either, but especially with the pic and audio / video metadata search, an EDIT functionality would be of outstanding value. You either use the file system ("folders") and possibly tags (as I do), or you use the metadata, in some dedicated application (or some do-it-all app for video, audio, pics altogether), and very often, finding is not enough, but BULK changes (i.e. on subsets of the set = on "selections" from "finds") are what you want (instead of one-by-one), and then, problems start, so there is room for a metadata editor of this quality here; the additional programming work might be reasonable?

Oh, and just a question, from the "fine print" here, you could read that ANY update, incl. minor ones, are paid, whilst only help is available for the full length of the major version. ("Upgrades to future versions of the software will require additional payment. Installing a new version may overwrite the existing version and invalidate your license key. Support is provided up to when the next major version is released.") I suppose this is not worded perfectly, but would mean that minor updates are included though? It's really not that obvious, so clarification would be helpful! Thanks!

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nikos bozinis @egon, thanks for your feedback. Deskrule is just for files at present, not emails. For the time being upgrades are free, both minor and major, but that's not guaranteed

as for changing metadata en mass, have a look at our other product called xplorer2, which has a similar search engine and allows you to change things too, using ACTIONS > FILE PROPERTIES menu command (something like mass renaming for properties) www.zabkat.com

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Nailesh User I have just bought deskrule lite in Aug 1st week in 19. 9 usd. Is there anyway to upgrade it to Desktule Standard ? As the price is same.

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Robert Bull Try before you buy, folks. I don't doubt this does what it says (from the author of xplorer2, after all) and it has features that I haven't seen in any other file finder. But, I found the UI so hard to get to grips with I avoid it. Just me, I suppose.

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nikos bozinis @nailesh, send me an email with your old registration information and we'll work something out.

@r bull, soon you can try a vertical search GUI, which you can see here
https://www.facebook.com/...=3&theater

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Dunking @nikos - do you have another source of that alternative GUI image? Everything Facebook is blocked here so whatever you've posted there is unviewable.

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M K G Is it possible to purchase a lifetime license through this deal?

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fpi fpi Do you plan a multilingual version, with French for example?
And about a free lifetime upgrade plan like for xvplorer?
Finally, do you plan to add "Offline catalog search" in xyplorer?
Thank you!

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nikos bozinis @dunking, try the beta version for yourself and you'll see the new mode:
https://forum.zabkat.com/...29&t=11895

@MKG there is no such option, upgrades are free for the time being

@fpi, offline catalog could one day be added to xplorer2 too, as well as translations for deskrule

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M K G Thanks. I have now purchased the program and am right now trying out the virtual view in the beta version.

It seems to be telling me to install IFilters for PDF, although, I have them already installed. Do I need to enter the ifilter path manually?

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M K G Ignore my last question. The demand for an ifilter went away after a reboot. Now I just need to find out how to enable the preview. :-)

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nikos bozinis if you can search for text in PDFs, you don't need to do anything

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nikos bozinis MKG, if you cannot see PDF previews, try installing a shell friendly PDF handler like Sumatra PDF. You can even install just the preview handlers if you want to keep your existing PDF program, see here
www.zabkat.com/blog/pdf-r...ration.htm

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M K G Thanks nikos, the suggestion worked beautifully. Now I have Acrobat as my default PDF program and can still preview the PDFs in Deskrule using Sumatra.

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Felix User Download Trial > Choose Your Download > DeskRule Standard => Xplorer2 440 page not found !
?????

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nikos bozinis @felix, sorry about that, please get the trial version from this page instead
www.zabkat.com/deskrule

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J W I use Box.com and have my files in the cloud. The local drive/folder holds only the names of the files. When searching a local folder for a filename, DeskRule doesn't see the file. Is there a way to get around this?

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nikos bozinis JW, I haven't tested with box.com, but if it has a local filesystem folder with files in it, deskrule should be able to search in it. In deskrule settings (F12 key) make sure "search hidden folders" option is set to YES

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Stephen Stimac I want to search for files using meta tags. Is that your "TAGS" parameter?

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nikos bozinis I think it's called KEYWORDS (tags)
PS. Sorry it's called TAGS, keywords is the property name for xplorer2!

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Stephen Stimac I have an image file with the Meta-tag "DSC RX10...". Using the Trial, I searched for Tag = "DSC", but no file was found. Did I do something wrong?

I have 1TB of images, including many family history images, I would like to embed Meta-tag info for each image. I am looking for stand-alone software to search on the meta-tag.

NOTE: I know Lightroom will search by meta-tag, but I don't want to be locked into only using Lightroom.

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nikos bozinis do these "tags" appear in windows explorer? if they do, they are searchable with deskrule. If on the other hand it's stored as a proprietary extension that only one program understands then deskrule cannot help you

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James Kenney When I tried to buy the standard version, it tried to charge my PayPal account
$28.25 I know this is very late but how can I fix this?

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nikos bozinis the cost is $20 but there are local taxes added on top, and perhaps currency exchange fees, all that extra money goes to your bank and govermnent

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James Kenney When I bought xplorer^2 from them, I got charged exactly what the quoted price was.

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Larry W Hello,
The Detailed Comparison Chart on your website compares the versions named LITE and FULL. Is the FULL what's called STANDARD now?

Thanks,
Larry

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nikos bozinis full==standard

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HJ User 1. Is there a manual in pdf format? I know that there is a kind of reference list in the help menu.

2. Am I correct that the only way the program permits export or printing of search results is by highlighting the search results, then copying them (using control P??), and then pasting into some other text application?

3. Can this program be used to search for meta data in pdfs?

4. There does not seem to be a built in global search option, e.g. "give me all files that contain the word 'Obama'". regardless of date. If the date field is left blank, it only seems to return files with a modification date of the current year.

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Emmanuel User When I click buy, it shows me the full price. Is there any code to enter?

Apr 8 2021 at 2:28am Copy Link

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nikos bozinis @Emmanuel, please try a different browser if you have, even IE should do

Zabkat - Apr 8 2021 at 2:38am Copy Link

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nikos bozinis @HJ
1. the manual is in HTML format (press F1 to see it)
2. yes, use CTRL+P to export as text

3. if you have a PDF handler then yes. For example try this one
https://coolsoft.altervis...yextension

4. If you leave a search field empty, then it is not used. But note that if you leave the FOLDER (searched) field empty then it searches in "my documents", not everywhere. To search everywhere right click on "my computer"

Zabkat - Apr 8 2021 at 2:43am Copy Link

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kydara I've been looking for a good desktop search engine for a long time. Definitely giving this one a shot. Purchased full/standard version.

Apr 8 2021 at 7:57am Copy Link

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Thomas K In the fineprint it states "Upgrades to future versions of the software will require additional payment." is this refering to the next major release (3.*) or will I have to renew my licence already for future 2.* versions (e.g. 2.4)

Apr 8 2021 at 9:47am Copy Link

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nikos bozinis at present there are no charges for upgrades

Zabkat - Apr 8 2021 at 10:11am Copy Link

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Mitchell User I have a license for Xplorer2 Professional. What additional search capabilities are included in DeskRule Lite. In other words does Xplorer search on all file attributes?

Apr 8 2021 at 11:00am Copy Link

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nikos bozinis if you have xplorer2 professional (not ultimate) then deskrule will find files faster for you. It uses all file attributes. Also it has some unique search modes, e.g. search in disconnected hard discs (catalog), search pictures by map etc

Zabkat - Apr 8 2021 at 11:08am Copy Link

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kydara Hmmmmm I've been looking for a good Windows Explorer replacement too...hit any BitsDuJour deals coming up on it??? ??

Apr 8 2021 at 11:20am Copy Link

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RS What are the differences (in terms of search capabilities) between xplorer2 Ultimate and Deskrule Standard? Is the latter essentially incorporated into the former?

Apr 8 2021 at 11:21am Copy Link

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Richard Blake Adding to question from RS: I have a DeskRule license. If xplorer2 is a superset, may I purchase an upgrade license to xplorer2?

Apr 8 2021 at 11:24am Copy Link

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nikos bozinis @RS, deskrule & x2 ultimate have similar capabilities, but deskrule is purpose built for search, so the GUI is easier IMHO. Also it has some unique search modes, e.g. search in disconnected hard discs (catalog), search pictures by map etc

Zabkat - Apr 8 2021 at 9:29pm Copy Link

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nikos bozinis @Richard Blake this offer is for deskrule. There are discounts available for xplorer2 if your license is recent, see www.zabkat.com/u_info.htm

Zabkat - Apr 8 2021 at 9:30pm Copy Link

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Mitchell User I purchased the license; received the registration key; was promised I could enter it in nag screen field which was supposed to pop up when the program started. But nag screen does not pop up. Restarted the computer; started the program again but nag screen does not pop up. Clicked on Help. No field in which to insert registration key. Clicked on About. Nothing.

Cannot register the program.

Apr 9 2021 at 2:36am Copy Link

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nikos bozinis @mitchell, please read carefully the email with your unlock key, deskrule will ask for your key in a day or two

Zabkat - Apr 9 2021 at 3:37am Copy Link

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Pierre English Hi is there a special download link to download the Full version. Looks like it's the Lite version that get's installed.

Thx

Apr 9 2021 at 8:00am Copy Link

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nikos bozinis you can get the full version trial from here: www.zabkat.com/deskrule

Zabkat - Apr 9 2021 at 8:21am Copy Link

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Mitchell User I added one external USB drive to the catalog. It is always connected to the computer. Will the catalog automatically update changes to the USB drive? If not how do I update the catalog to reflect changes to that drive?.

The text identifications to the input boxes---e.g., "Type"---disappear. How do I get them to reappear?

I have difficulty seeing the toolbar. I assume there is no way for me to increase the size of the toolbar from within the program

Apr 9 2021 at 8:45am Copy Link

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nikos bozinis please use the support email because I need to get some screenshots explaining the problems you report. www.zabkat.com/deskrule/contact.htm

Zabkat - Apr 9 2021 at 9:35am Copy Link

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Dave User Tested the DeskRule v.2.3 a couple of days ago -- bought a license shortly thereafter. The program works remarkably well. I was surprised at its speed and the fact it searches my flash drives which the others I used did not.

Very pleased with the purchase.
Dennis

Apr 9 2021 at 11:50am Copy Link

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nikos bozinis notice for MANAGEMENT: download links don't work. People can download from the website instead till this is fixed

Zabkat - Dec 23 2021 at 1:24am Copy Link

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Gary User can't download the trial for the standard version. Has the inability to index pdf files been fixed?

Dec 23 2021 at 3:47am Copy Link

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nikos bozinis @Gary, try again to download, the problem should be fixed. Or try deskrule website

as for PDF, there shouldn't be a problem as long as you have the system components necessary for PDF filtering. I recommend installing Sumatra PDF

Zabkat - Dec 23 2021 at 5:33am Copy Link

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bvssunnydale Hi, just wondering if DeskRule requires Windows Index function? (I have it currently turned off for all drives) - thanks!

Dec 23 2021 at 8:05am Copy Link

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nikos bozinis deskrule works WITH search index if you have it, but if you don't it still can find stuff. Content (text) searches will be slow without the index though

Zabkat - Dec 23 2021 at 8:25am Copy Link

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Brenda Adams I just bought it. Thank you. :) One reason: I have owned maker's Xplorer2 for many years. (Very good program and friendly maker.) Second reason: I purchased a product a few years ago that was complicated to use. I think DeskRule will be more user-friendly plus offer more help/info about usage for us non-techie users. :)

Dec 23 2021 at 10:02pm Copy Link

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Great News! zabkat has agreed to extend this deal for another day - Enjoy!

BitsDuJour Admin - Dec 24 2021 at 12:11am Copy Link

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J S "The Fine Print" Tab from Todays Offering:

... "Upgrades to future versions of the software will require additional payment. Installing a new version may overwrite the existing version and invalidate your license key."...

Hello Nikos, is there an option to purchase a Lifetime Upgrades License for DeskRule v2.4 so that one License covers all future versions of DeskRule.

I thought back in December 2015 that a Purchased DeskRule License covered all future releases, was that the case or not? (All my Screenshots & MHTML's of that Purchase I'm still trying to find.)

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SPEAKiNG of Purchased lifetime upgrades assurance cover: I haven't upgraded from xplorer2 v?? to the latest for a long time and I believe Version 4 has been released and has different versions?

Seasons Greetings,

J S down under

Dec 24 2021 at 4:48pm Copy Link

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Nailesh User I want to upgrade Deskrule lite to standard, do I have to pay 10 USD ?

May 6 2022 at 12:50am Copy Link

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nikos bozinis sorry the upgrade path isn't on offer

Zabkat - May 6 2022 at 11:12pm Copy Link

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lisba f Two questions:

a.When I do a search for a word and open the file that that word is found, is it possible that your program guide me to the specific point/page instead to just open the file for me and letting me do another search to find where the word is located in that document?

b. Do I need to change something in the settings to work with Unicode characters?

May 12 2022 at 2:22pm Copy Link

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Rohs Can deskrule (or one of its plugins) search and find words within images (png, jpg)? I am looking for more than OCR of documents in pdf form. Looking to be able to search and find text in a photo like a picture of a street sign.

May 12 2022 at 2:34pm Copy Link

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Robert Crombie My main PC is XP Pro 32 bit (The only PC that I need to do searches)
What is the latest version of your program that will work in XP ?
And does the 50% discount apply ?

May 12 2022 at 9:09pm Copy Link

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nikos bozinis @Rohs sorry no
@Robert deskrule needs vista or later, no XP. For good search in XP try xplorer2 www.zabkat.com

Zabkat - May 12 2022 at 9:22pm Copy Link

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nikos bozinis @lisba
a. The previewer in deskrule (press CTRL+Q keys if you don't see it) will highlight all the keywords you search for in documents. Press F3 in there to see the next hit. As for external programs that open the documents. it's generally not possible to link them with deskrule. The exception is if you have xplorer2 (editor2) installed, then when you press F3 to view a matched file, then another F3 will take you to the first keyword. But this only would work for plain text files

b. unicode/utf8 and all other encodings are handled automatically

Zabkat - May 12 2022 at 9:27pm Copy Link

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Kelly Hamblin @ Rober Crombie - Try Agent Ransack, the free (older) version of File Locator Pro. It should work on an XP machine, but it works differently than Zabcat's offering. It will search anything and everything from its own interface. If you search for a word, it will show every file that contains the word and the surrounding text so you can better determine which file you need.

May 13 2022 at 9:03am Copy Link

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Robert Crombie Kelly,
Thanks for responding.
I just purchased the full version (aka Standard) of DeskRule.
I will copy the folders from my XP PC to my network thumb drive (shoved into my modem), and search from my W8.1 PC
Rob
PS (To others)
The interface could do with much more informative ToolTips.
Sound and Closed Captions appear to be missing on the youtube video
There are a few more videos on youtube which I will check out later.

May 13 2022 at 6:47pm Copy Link

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Robert Crombie I would prefer menus instead of (only) icons.
Took a bit of rummaging around in my attempt to enter license.
Best I could find was - there will be a pop up to nag us to enter key, and that popup has a button. HOWEVER I don't get the popup. (Most programs place it in the about dialog. This doesn't)
I closed program AND entries in Task Manager, and restarted, and no popup to allow key entry.
There is a popup that shows tip of the day. I am usually reluctant to untick the box offering to continue to show tips..
Are we meant to untick that, so we can get the elusive popup to enter key ?

May 13 2022 at 9:42pm Copy Link

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nikos bozinis @robert, the email you received with the unlock key has instructions for using it. If you wait for a day or 2, deskrule will ask for the key anyway

Zabkat - May 13 2022 at 10:24pm Copy Link

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Stephen Kunkel Great app. Very powerful for searches.

Oct 3 2022 at 6:56am Copy Link

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Nailesh User Deskrule Full with same discount?

Oct 4 2022 at 1:14am Copy Link

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nikos bozinis yes, both are 50% off

Zabkat - Oct 4 2022 at 1:33am Copy Link

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UweS @Nailesh User
I Think so!
When you click on the "Get this deal" button, two options appear: Light Version (9,95) or Standard Version (19,97).

Oct 4 2022 at 1:39am Copy Link

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Nailesh User Yes Thanks

Oct 4 2022 at 1:41am Copy Link

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Gary User does it search email content stored in outlook desktop version?

Oct 4 2022 at 5:17am Copy Link

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nikos bozinis @gary, no it just searches files (including MSG files if you have such emails)

Zabkat - Oct 4 2022 at 5:34am Copy Link

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M User I bought this tool here longer time ago and is a topper :)

One question though: how do I delete the search history? For example I entered 'decoration' in the 'Name' search field.
When I type 'de' ... 'decoration' appears in a pull-down list. How to delete this history?

As a second note, the Help menu (F1) still pops up Internet Explorer instead of a user's default browser (or Edge)?

Thanks in advance.

Oct 4 2022 at 8:24am Copy Link

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nikos bozinis deskrule (usually) saves settings in the registry. So you need some registry editing to change such things as histories etc, while deskrule is NOT running. To get rid of IE for help delete the registry value binFlags under GENERAL key.
For more information see the section ADVANCED SETTINGS TWEAKING in the manual (F1 key)

Zabkat - Oct 4 2022 at 9:06am Copy Link

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Brenda Adams Support for this company's products is top-notch! I have purchased several in the past and have one more to buy in next days. Can't go wrong. Great service and products. (I have this software plus Xplorer2, and will soon buy D-clone!! :) So yeah, I recommend.

Oct 4 2022 at 12:13pm Copy Link

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M User Thank you for the reply Nikos.

I would, however, like to make the suggestion that this 'intensive' process of clearing search history could be applied via a button ... it would make it a lot more user-friendly to see this, rather logical, feature pop up in an upcoming changelog ;)

Regards.

Oct 4 2022 at 12:48pm Copy Link

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Gary User I bought a license to DeskRule standard yesterday. I already have X1Search but X1 Search is changing its licensing to a per computer instead of a per user, so the next renewal date will double the cost of X1. However, searching files for content using just one word returned 24 files (Excel, Word, PDF, and Text) with X1 Search, but only 12 files (Excel and Word) with DeskRule. Desk Rule didn't find the pdf's or the text files, and missed 2 of the Excel files. The search was run after rebuilding the windows index.

Oct 5 2022 at 3:19am Copy Link

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nikos bozinis @gary deskrule searches under a folder, so first of all are you sure that all the files found by X1 are under the same folder?
another possibility is that some of the files (folders) may not be in the system index. Deskrule has an option for secondary "slow" search, did you try it?

Zabkat - Oct 5 2022 at 4:06am Copy Link

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Gary User i searched the hard drive. The "slow search" found a few more files, including a pdf file, but it has been running for more than 30 minutes and hasn't found all the files that X1 found on the same hard drive.

Oct 5 2022 at 4:25am Copy Link

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nikos bozinis X1 keeps its own index. Deskrule uses the windows system index, or its own slow search. To speed things up make sure you add all the folders where you keep documents in the search index

Zabkat - Oct 5 2022 at 5:40am Copy Link

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Gary User after a little over of 2 hours of searching DeskRule found the same files that X1 search found. So I'm happy that Desk Rule was eventually able to locate the same files as X1 but I'm disappointed in the amount of time it took.

Oct 5 2022 at 5:59am Copy Link

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nikos bozinis if you go "slow" mode you need to choose your search folders wisely. You don't need to search your entire hard disk where e.g. a search inside "my documents" would suffice

Zabkat - Oct 5 2022 at 9:08am Copy Link

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Gary User if I knew where the files were located I probably wouldn't need to search at all. The purpose of a search app is to find files when I don't know the location.

Oct 5 2022 at 9:29am Copy Link

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nikos bozinis most probably they won't be in C:\windows!

Zabkat - Oct 5 2022 at 11:30pm Copy Link

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Gary User most of my data is on a separate drive, it is not on the operating drive. I only index the data drive. I keep my files in subdirectories, but if file names and subdirectories were a perfect system, there would be no need for a search app to begin with. For example, the test search was for information related to an annual service performed on my vehicle. Both X1 search and DeskRule found pdf's, word docs, text files, and excel files related to that subject spread over numerous subdirectories, such as the banking subdirectories for the years the service was performed, the personal property subdirectory for the vehicle, the receipts subdirectories for the years payments were made, etc.

Oct 6 2022 at 7:12am Copy Link

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Rob User what is the difference between lite and standard version?

Apr 11 2023 at 9:55am Copy Link

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Ed Rob User - This page compares the functionality of the two editions.

https://www.zabkat.com/deskrule/lite.htm

It looks like advanced boolean search, deep path functionality, macro, as well as 64-bit versus 32-bit code.

Apr 11 2023 at 11:22am Copy Link

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Rob User Hi, what is the difference between this program and you 'xplorer2" ?

Apr 11 2023 at 12:00pm Copy Link

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nikos bozinis deskrule is a search engine, xplorer2 is a file manager

Zabkat - Apr 11 2023 at 1:32pm Copy Link

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MBe is this correct in the fine print?

Upgrades to future versions of the software will require additional payment. Installing a new version may overwrite the existing version and invalidate your license key.

Or what is the update policy?

Thanks

Apr 12 2023 at 8:16am Copy Link

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nikos bozinis the only certainty is that the version you buy is yours to keep forever. There may be charges for accessing future versions

Zabkat - Apr 12 2023 at 8:31am Copy Link

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Farhang DJVU file contents don't seem to be indexed or searched. Is that at all on the horizon?

Apr 12 2023 at 8:42am Copy Link

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nikos bozinis if you install the djvu text filter from this page you should be able to search in them
www.zabkat.com/x2plugins.htm

Zabkat - Apr 12 2023 at 8:49am Copy Link

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MBe does that means, that there are no minor updates are included?

Apr 12 2023 at 9:11am Copy Link

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nikos bozinis no I mean that at present there are no charges but it may change in the future

Zabkat - Apr 12 2023 at 10:17am Copy Link

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Apr 1 2024 at 8:34pm Copy Link

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Susan User No Paypal? Why? You accept Paypal payments on your website.I would like to purchase the standard version. Can you give me a discount code to use on your website soi I can pay with Paypal?

Apr 2 2024 at 12:13pm Copy Link

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nikos bozinis @Susan, paypal is available, use the drop-down in the order page
https://imgur.com/46JKQMf

If you want paypal direct please send me an email

Zabkat - Apr 3 2024 at 1:20am Copy Link

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Susan User I don't understand your link. What is your email address please?

Apr 3 2024 at 9:58pm Copy Link

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nikos bozinis www.zabkat.com/deskrule/contact.htm

Zabkat - Apr 3 2024 at 11:54pm Copy Link

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Susan User Please allow Paypal payments on the Billing Information page next time you offer this program. Thanks.

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