Virus Scan for Doronix Math Toolbox 2.0

Tore Hoyem Although I have no need for a program like this, I admit I find myself quite intrigued!

I'd be very grateful to whomever feels qualified (and inclined) to do a mini-review.

Jul 5 2012 at 1:52am Copy Link

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Jaap Aap Hi, how compatible would this be with Matlab? Thanks!

Jul 5 2012 at 3:00am Copy Link

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Dmitry Lodyakov Jaap App, it is not compatible at all. There is a different programming language.

Doronix Corporation - Jul 5 2012 at 3:43am Copy Link

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Dmitry Lodyakov Hi, Tore Hoyem. What do you mean "no need"? You use a calculator in your daily life? Consider that this program is an improved calculator, with the history of computing, the ability to create your own functions, import / export data and visualization of graphs. To carry out the calculations it is much easier than what any calculator.

Our site also has documentation for the product. It is designed also to unexperienced users. This is a step by step guide that you can be considered as a mini-review. You can find it at this address.
http://www.doronix.com/do...ation.html

Doronix Corporation - Jul 5 2012 at 3:57am Copy Link

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Tore Hoyem Hi Dmitry.

I'm saying I don't need calculators much these days, beyond setting up the odd spreadsheet.
I also buy a lot of software here that I never use.

In spite of this, I still feel an urge to buy Math Toolbox :)

I would just like to hear a short review from someone that uses math on a regular basis before deciding.
(Oh, who am I kidding! I'll probably end up buying, no matter what.)

Jul 5 2012 at 9:48am Copy Link

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Michael R. Does MathToolbox support TeX/LaTeX-documentation-creation?

Jul 5 2012 at 11:30pm Copy Link

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Exolon Miner Hi,

I tried the trial and the tool is very promising.

I took a look at your website and I'm missing some information about Doronix:

- Who are you (type of business entity)?
- Where are you located?

Thanks

Exo

Jul 6 2012 at 1:30am Copy Link

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Dominik Holenstein Hi,

@Exolon Miner

I have just sent an email with the same questions to Doronix!

The tool is promising, I agree. It is like a "very simple MatLab clone for everyone.".

Jul 6 2012 at 2:02am Copy Link

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Dmitry Lodyakov @Michael R. Does MathToolbox support TeX/LaTeX-documentation-creation?

Not yet. But in future versions of this possibility appears

Doronix Corporation - Jul 6 2012 at 2:15am Copy Link

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Dmitry Lodyakov @Dominik Holenstein
@Exolon Miner

Hi. We got email with questions and this are answers on this questions.

Q: Before I invest my money in a new product I would like to know better the company and the people behind Doronix?
A: As you can see in the product has already invested a lot of effort. I think for this reason we can say that we are not a one-day company, and that the product will continue to grow and evolve.
Q: How many employees do you have and where are you based?
A: We are 4 people: 3 programmers and one marketer. At the moment our company is not registered anywhere, but we are physically located in Kyrgyzstan. We will register our company, but not here, it shall be registered in Canada, USA or Australia, we are now choose a place for registration.
Q: Do you have a roadmap and a plan to describe how you intend to develop the product further?
A:Of course we have a plan for the development of the product. I will not divulge it, because we plan to add many easy-to-work opportunities, which have no competitors.
Q: Is your product based on the code of FreeMat?
A: Our product is written from scratch, not based on anyone's development.

Doronix Corporation - Jul 6 2012 at 3:30am Copy Link

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Dominik Holenstein @Dmitry Lodyakov

Many thanks for your extensive reply to my questions, I appreciate it very much. I am glad to see that the Doronix Math Toolbox has a serious background and a roadmap.

Good luck and all the best,
Dominik

Jul 6 2012 at 4:18am Copy Link

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William Tattors I am drooling as well. I work with matrices extensively and will support you in those efforts. Going up against the giat, Matlab, has been a dream, unfulfilled. You have my most keen interest and support, HOWEVER, the previous commenters scrub down are all a part of the political process and thus let us all work together with a unified goal. My advise, an about page and fill out the picture as to your talents and those of your team; also don't forget http://www.mywot.com/en/s...ix.com#top which I value tremendously.

Jul 6 2012 at 10:24am Copy Link

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Tore Hoyem Dmitry,can you say something about your policy for upgrades to major versions?
I.e. do you plan to offer discounts for owners of previous versions?

I understand that Matlab sells so called special purpose Toolboxes. Do you have any comments as to whether you plan to publish similar addons?

Jul 6 2012 at 1:04pm Copy Link

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Dmitry Lodyakov @Tore Hoyem

Q: "Dmitry, can you say something about your policy for upgrades to major versions?
A: Although you are asking about the major version, I remind you that if you buy version 1.0, you get the opportunity to use all 1.x minor versions.
Q: I.e. do you plan to offer discounts for owners of previous versions?
A: Yes, for owners of previous major versions of the product will be a discount on the purchase of new ones.
Q: I understand that Matlab sells so called special purpose Toolboxes. Do you have any comments as to whether you plan to publish similar addons? "
A: Of course, we will expand the capabilities of our software, but how it is implemented, we have not yet decided.

Doronix Corporation - Jul 6 2012 at 1:33pm Copy Link

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Tore Hoyem Dmitry, my keyboard layout (NO) requires me to use AltGr in combination with other keys to produce "@${[" etc

E.g. in Math Toolbox AltGr+"8" will not produce an "[" as expected, which is problematic.

Jul 6 2012 at 1:58pm Copy Link

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Dmitry Lodyakov @Tore Hoyem

Yes, we already know about it. Now the weekend and no one works, but in the early days of the new week we will fix it and release new 1.0.2 version. Monday-Tuesday.

Doronix Corporation - Jul 6 2012 at 3:03pm Copy Link

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Dmitry Lodyakov @Tore Hoyem

Can you, please, download and install the new 1.0.2 version and check keyboard combinations with AltGr?

Doronix Corporation - Jul 6 2012 at 3:33pm Copy Link

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Michael R. Thanks for the former answer.

Here some more questions:

Is the number of digits in calculations free definable?
Is the calulated value stored inside a variable or it's expression, e.g. after a=1/3; b=a*3; ideally b would be exactly 1 (and not 0,999...))

Is it possible to call MathToolbox from command-line (or a batch-file or another program) with a script/program to execute, e.g. create a graph (like in your example-screenshots), save the graphic to a file/clipboard, and than exit (and give program-control back to the caller)?

Is there a source-code-debugger included, which would allow breakpoints and displaying of local vars?

Jul 7 2012 at 2:25am Copy Link

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Tore Hoyem Dmitry.

I downloaded v1.0.2 from your site, but unfortunately the key combination involving AltGr still *doesn't* work.

(Everything else on my keyboard layout seems to work)

Jul 7 2012 at 2:31am Copy Link

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Dmitry Lodyakov @Micheal R.

Q: Is the number of digits in calculations free definable?
Is the calulated value stored inside a variable or it's expression, eg after a = 1/3; b = a * 3; ideally b would be exactly one (and not 0,999 ...))
A: All the numbers in Doronix Math Toolbox are presented in "double-precision floating-point format" (http://en.wikipedia.org/w...int_format). You need to understand how the calculations doing to avoid an error. There are two types of programs for calculations: program of symbolic computation(like Maple) and programs that simply calculate. Doronix Math Toolbox, as well as MATLAB, it is not packages for symbolic computation, it's the packages that are directly find the result of calculations and store it in memory in the double format, and not as a formula. The computer is always limited in the amount of data, 1/3 he stores in the memory like limited size 1.333333 sequence. So when you multiply it by 3 you'll never get 1. You can set the number of displayed digits with command format or set it in the Preferences dialog.

Q: Is it possible to call MathToolbox from command-line (or a batch-file or another program) with a script / program to execute, eg create a graph (like in your example-screenshots), save the graphic to a file / clipboard, and than exit (and give program-control back to the caller)?
A: Not yet.

Q: Is there a source-code-debugger included, which would allow breakpoints and displaying of local vars? "
A: Not yet.

Doronix Corporation - Jul 7 2012 at 3:29am Copy Link

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Dmitry Lodyakov @Tore Hoyem

Sorry, we can't quick to fix it, please, wait for the new week, we'll fix it in it's early days.

Doronix Corporation - Jul 7 2012 at 3:32am Copy Link

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Roberto The 1.0.2 activated the numpad in my computer (it was not working with 1.0.1).

But Im still having same AltGr issues (spanish keyboard on win xp sp3).

Jul 7 2012 at 3:42am Copy Link

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Dmitry Lodyakov @Tore Hoyem
@Roberto

Hi. It's not our but, it's Qt bug (framework which we are using) https://bugreports.qt-pro...QTBUG-6518.
Are you using this keyboard layout?
https://bugreports.qt-pro...ay.svg.png
I'm intresting only in [ { } ] symbols which are on numbers keys. They are at these places?

Doronix Corporation - Jul 7 2012 at 4:41am Copy Link

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Tore Hoyem Dmitry.

Yes, that is my layout and the problem reported at Qt is what I'm seeing.

Does this mean you're dependent on a 3rd party (Qt) for a solution, which may, or may not materialize?

Jul 7 2012 at 5:14am Copy Link

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Dmitry Lodyakov Q: Does this mean you're dependent on a 3rd party (Qt) for a solution, which may, or may not materialize?
A: No. We will repair the bug in our application. While it is not fixed in Qt, we will intercept the key combination with AltGr and enter the desired characters.

This table of key combinations is correct? This is all the characters, or there is any else?
2 - @
4 - $
7 - {
8 - [
9 -]
0 -}

Doronix Corporation - Jul 7 2012 at 5:41am Copy Link

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Roberto this is my layout:
http://elpatiospanish.com...panish.png

Jul 7 2012 at 5:49am Copy Link

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Dmitry Lodyakov @Roberto
@Tore Hoyem

This is bad. I thought that these characters are in the same place on all of these layouts, but it is not. I would suggest you to use these combinations until the bug is not fixed in Qt.

(Alt +)
2 - @
4 - $
7 - {
8 - [
9 - ]
0 - }

Well, wait a bit until the bug is fixed in Qt. Qt is a framework that is actively developed and supported by many developers.

Doronix Corporation - Jul 7 2012 at 5:59am Copy Link

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Tore Hoyem Dmitry.

Those are the ones, unless you use tilde (~) for something.
If so, it's AltGr+ the key shown between the "Å" and Enter in the layout picture, i.e. the one that has "^ ¨ ~" on it.

Jul 7 2012 at 6:00am Copy Link

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Tore Hoyem Dmitry.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean by using
(Alt +)
2 - @
4 - $
etc

Pressing Alt+2 has no standard result.
For example, in Math Toolbox it produces a "2", in MS Word nothing, in TextPad it has a program specific result, etc

Jul 7 2012 at 6:08am Copy Link

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Dmitry Lodyakov @Tore Hoyem

Pressing Alt+2 has no standard result.
Not yet. But I want to interrupt this combinations and insert char @. It will be work in Doronix Math Toolbox.

Doronix Corporation - Jul 7 2012 at 6:11am Copy Link

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Dmitry Lodyakov BTW, you can switch you keyboard layout to English? In English layout this key combinations work?

Doronix Corporation - Jul 7 2012 at 6:20am Copy Link

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Frank Stephens This is an interesting product, but I don't know that I'll have time to evaluate it. On the plus side, it's 1/10 the cost of Wolfram Mathematica 8 Home Edition. But it's also up against the free Microsoft Mathematics, WolframAlpha, and the paid WolframAlpha Pro. WolframAlpha uses Mathematica, and you can look at the examples, ask for what you want, or search the documentation, but there are compute limits. You can do more with the Pro version, but not as much as Mathematica, which again is far more expensive than Doronix.

Jul 8 2012 at 2:40am Copy Link

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Diane Hemmen-Schüler I've tried to save my plot to a file (as image)
I've got this error:
"Can't save the image .." as *.jpg or *.jpeg,
but *.png and *.bmp are ok.
Why?

Jul 8 2012 at 8:04am Copy Link

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Dmitry Lodyakov @Diane Hemmen-Schüler

What the full text of error? Just enter the full path name with file extension in the dialog box. Like

plot01.jpg
plot01.jpeg
plot01.bmp
plot01.png

Or you can't save image in jpeg format?

Doronix Corporation - Jul 8 2012 at 8:08am Copy Link

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Diane Hemmen-Schüler Here is the full text:
"Can't save image to file "C:\Users\Diane\Desktop\plot01.jpg"
or
the same with jpeg
"Can't save image to file "C:\Users\Diane\Desktop\plot01.jpeg"

I can save images as jpg for example with Paint (=mspaint.exe)

Jul 8 2012 at 8:38am Copy Link

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Dmitry Lodyakov @Diane Hemmen-Schüler

Can you, please, mail to us at support@doronix.com. We need more information about.

Doronix Corporation - Jul 8 2012 at 8:42am Copy Link

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Matt Hi Dmitry.

Do you have any idea how long DMT 1.x will be around before version 2 releases?

I do realize the current version is 1.0.2,

Thank you.

Jul 8 2012 at 3:07pm Copy Link

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Dmitry Lodyakov @FlyTheAirplane

Q: Do you have any idea how long DMT 1.x will be around before version 2 releases
A: I think somewhere around the year.

Doronix Corporation - Jul 8 2012 at 4:17pm Copy Link

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Dominik Holenstein A workaround for the alt gr issue:
Use a tool like PhraseExpress or Autotext with the autotext feature. You can define abreviations for the most important characters like { or [.

Dominik

Jul 8 2012 at 11:55pm Copy Link

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