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Gonzo Glad to see SoftMaker Office here in BDJ! :)
To those unfamiliar with this app, it's one of the (if not THE) best MS Office alternatives, with incredible compatibility, and much lower cost. Highly recommended if you don't want to / can't pay for MS Office, but need higher compatibility than OpenOffice/LibreOffice. There's even a Linux version!

Speaking of which: I hope you guys bring SoftMaker Office 2012 for Linux to BDJ soon as well.
Jul 9 2013 at 2:00am Copy Link
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davidpaul Is this deal only for the Standard version? Is there a deal for the Pro version?
Jul 9 2013 at 6:15pm Copy Link
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Gonzo @David Paul
The deal seems to be for both the Standard and Professional editions for Windows only.
Jul 9 2013 at 8:03pm Copy Link
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YURY KUZMIN What is the term given license?
What languages are supported?
Is there a Russian language?
Jul 10 2013 at 2:52am Copy Link
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Martin Kotulla Yury, you may use the software perpetually. For text entry, we support all the world's languages including Hebrew and Arabic, with the exception of some South Asian languages.

The user interface comes in the following languages: English (US), English (UK), German, French, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Hungarian, Greek, Turkish, Arabic, Russian, Chinese, Japanese.
SoftMaker Software GmbH - Jul 10 2013 at 3:14am Copy Link
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Wolfgang Petsch Will there also be a deal for the Linux Version? Or a possibility to by the 'combined version' (SoftMaker Office 2012 for Linux and Windows)?
Jul 10 2013 at 5:46am Copy Link
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Eddie Tex As stated by others, this is indeed one of the best alternatives to MS Office. It's great to see the original SoftMaker version coming up rather than the re-branded "Ashampoo" editions that have been offered in the past. One of the nice benefits of the SoftMaker edition is the ability to install on three machines.

If anyone remembers the old Pocket PC days, SoftMaker was the first to offer a true Microsoft Word-like capability through their TextMaker product back in the early 2000s. The product has since expanded to this suite and is a solid offering.

I will definitely jump in when this offer is available. Thank you SoftMaker!
Jul 10 2013 at 9:40am Copy Link
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Michael R. I like the ability to define have a macro language for TextMaker and PlanMaker. Are there plans to extend this for eMClient too?

Is it possible to create two desktop-icons for eMClient, each of these using different data, especially incoming emails. E.g. when clicking on one I will see only my personal eMails, when clicking on the other only the business. This would help staying focussed.
Jul 11 2013 at 1:46am Copy Link
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Niels Salling Can't find the list of supported languages.
Is Danish supported?
(Had to give up on kingsoft as they do not state plans for supporting my language)
Jul 11 2013 at 2:57am Copy Link
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Gonzo @Niels
Based on the answer above from Martin, it should support your language for text entry (ie. autocorrect?) but not for the UI.
Jul 11 2013 at 3:14am Copy Link
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Martin Kotulla Niels, we support Danish text entry, spell-checking and hyphenation, but don't have a Danish user interface. This will be in the next release, sometime in 2014.
SoftMaker Software GmbH - Jul 11 2013 at 3:56am Copy Link
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Martin Kotulla Michael, macro support for eM Client is on the wish list, but will not be available in the near future. I will forward your suggestion about multiple mail databases.
SoftMaker Software GmbH - Jul 11 2013 at 3:57am Copy Link
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Tortuga Never heard of this software prior to this promo !! :(

But I see several BdJ'ers recommend this program
Could anyone say how the PlanMaker (the Excel module) of this one compares w Kingsoft's Spreadsheets ?
Also, does it have the ribbon & can it be switched off?
Much appreciate any input
Peace
Jul 11 2013 at 4:22am Copy Link
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Glen Coulthard As others have mentioned, I would be interested in the Professional Linux version.
Jul 11 2013 at 8:25am Copy Link
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Martin Kotulla Glen, there is no separate Professional version for Linux, as there is for Windows. But the regular Linux version will be on sale, too.
SoftMaker Software GmbH - Jul 11 2013 at 9:40am Copy Link
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Sally Marciniak How about a package deal of SoftMaker for Windows (Professional), Linux and Android? I dual boot my netbook and laptop, Windows and Linux, and have an Android phone. Also, how about a version for OS X? My desktop is an iMac. Thanks.
Jul 11 2013 at 7:21pm Copy Link
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Glen Coulthard I'd be interested in the Windows Std plus Linux Std combination also. I don't need the emClient software. Thanks for your quick replies.
Jul 12 2013 at 12:51am Copy Link
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Niels Salling Three important points for me:
1 How to import semicolon delimited text files in planmaker
2 How to change standard wirh " in textmaker
3 Is help file in Danish coming up?
Jul 12 2013 at 1:51am Copy Link
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Len Krois Is there a deal for the pro version?
Jul 12 2013 at 1:53am Copy Link
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Bertie Brummel Softmaker Office is not only an alternative to M$ Office, it is a superior software. I'm using the Pro-version for more than a decade now and the program has always been reliable. No problems with large text-files, good import and export features. Highly recommended. The only thing I miss is an updated data-base modul.
Jul 12 2013 at 1:57am Copy Link
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JW @Len Krois - Yes! It's available today at $39.99.
If you'd clicked on the Buy Now, then you'd have seen both offers!
Jul 12 2013 at 1:58am Copy Link
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njf I'm trying to download the trial version before deciding if it is for me. It downloads a tiny file which Windows cannot run. How do I get the proper trial version, please?
Jul 12 2013 at 2:24am Copy Link
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Roderick Nicolson I have a very important question please: Can the professional version of Softmaker's Office eM Client import rules and alerts from Microsoft Outlook 2007?
And, if it can, can it do it properly?

Also, I have a second question: Can the eM Client import rules from the Outlook Express rules file?

And one more: Is this the same program being used as the separate eM Client sold on the internet and which came up on Bitsdujour a few months ago?

That program was not able to carry out these very fundamental necessities, to my annoyance, and is not likely to either, in the near future.
Jul 12 2013 at 2:25am Copy Link
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Ennovy I use Softmaker Office for a long time now and it's great!

When I look at the history of the product I expect a new "2014" release by the end of this year. If so, I wait for that version.
Can you tell me what your plans are for a new release?

Thanks for this fine software!

Kind Regards,
Peter L.
Jul 12 2013 at 2:47am Copy Link
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Gonzo I already have emClient which I bought on its own when offered recently here at BDJ.
1-Is there any other difference (ie. functionality) between the Standard and Pro versions besides emClient and Berlitz dictionaries?
2-Is there integration between SoftMaker Office and emClient in the Pro version?
3-If the answer to #2 is yes, will I get that integration if I already have emClient and choose to buy SoftMaker Office Standard?

Thanks!
Jul 12 2013 at 3:22am Copy Link
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govertz How does SoftMaker pro differ from standard? Can't find it any where on the website.
Jul 12 2013 at 3:30am Copy Link
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njf OK I managed to get the trial from the Softmaker website. So am I right that emClient does not work with MS Exchange?
Jul 12 2013 at 3:43am Copy Link
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Tortuga @Govertz
If you click on the "Website" link, on top of this page (just underneath the promo price), you'll land on a page that shows a table that compares Std. vs Pro (± the middle on the right)
http://www.softmaker.com/...ofw_en.htm

Hope this helps
Jul 12 2013 at 3:58am Copy Link
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RCG I already have the standard version. Is it possible to upgrade to the professional version with this offer and what would be the cost? Thanks
Jul 12 2013 at 4:29am Copy Link
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Software Guy This one is a no brainer. 3 PC license, excellent office suite, excellent price ($8.33 per PC - just compare this Bitsdujour price to the single pc price for Microsoft Office suite)
The standard suite is just fine for most users unless you plan to use eMClient to replace Outlook, or you need the 4 Berlitz dictionaries.
If you have doubts about Presentations compatibility, I will say it is excellent. This is a very nice offer - thanks BDJ and Softmaker.


Jul 12 2013 at 5:34am Copy Link
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Tortuga @Martin Kotulla
I see these modules have sold separately here before
I wd be interested on the PlanMaker module only
1) Does it also sells separately? How much would it cost?
2) Is there a portable version?
Peace

N.B.: My early question:
» Does *anybody* know how this compare w Spreadsheets?
Thanks
Jul 12 2013 at 6:36am Copy Link
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Ennovy @Tortuga
Here you can read everything about the portable version: http://www.softmaker.com/...sof_en.htm
Jul 12 2013 at 6:41am Copy Link
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Martin Kotulla @Glen: We have the Windows and the Linux versions on sale now. Together, under this deal they are less expensive than the regular Windows+Linux bundle that we normally offer.

@Niels: 1. To import with options, in PlanMaker do File/Open and select "Text files". In TextMaker do File/Open and select "Text file, additional options". In both cases, the import wizard comes up. 2. Not sure what you mean by ". 3. Danish user interface will come in the next release, but not the help files.

@Len: Yes, there is a deal for either the standard or the Pro version.

@Norman: eM Client accesses Exchange like any other mail server: using SMTP, IMAP and POP3. It does not use the ActiveSync protocol.

@Roderick: eM Client imports e-mails, contacts, and calendar entries from Outlook. The rest have to be recreated in eM Client. I did not know of a previosu eM Client offer here on BDJ, so I cannot comment on what was offered there.

@PeLi: We update the software in ~ 24 month cycles. Sometime during 2014, there will be new release, but we are not there yet.

@Gonzo: 1. Pro adds eM Client and Berlitz. Otherwise both versions are identical. 2. You can use eM Client to send e-mails from SoftMaker Office, but right now the addressbooks are not yet shared. 3. Apart from a different licensing scheme (SoftMaker's eM Client build comes with 3 licenses), the eM Client versions are identical featurewise.

@RCG: You can pick up the Pro version at today's price. For other upgrade options, contact us at sales@softmaker.com

@Tortuga: The last Windows version where we sold the components individually was SoftMaker Office 2006, seven years ago. Today, we don't even have separate installers anymore, so we cannot sell you PlanMaker standalone. Of course, you are free to do a custom install and deselect the other components.
SoftMaker Software GmbH - Jul 12 2013 at 7:06am Copy Link
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Steven Aves Question for you Softmaker fans: Why would I want Softmaker over Libreoffice?

I'm installing the trial version now so I don't have days to test it, so what should I look for today that would make me want to purchase it?

Thanks,
Steve
Jul 12 2013 at 7:12am Copy Link
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Tortuga @PeLi !!
Many Thanks for the that link !! :D
WOW! It is *fully* portable!! This is fantastikk
Like you, was wondering if it wdn't be better to wait for the 2014 version that shd be coming out later this year (I'm guessing...), since that upgrade is excluded from today's purchase (as per the Fine Print tab)
Peace
Jul 12 2013 at 7:41am Copy Link
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Rich OBrien I use the Softmaker Office 2012 word processor several times a week. It provides by far the best compatibility with the newer, far smaller docx word files. TextMaker, the word processor, is so nearly perfect that very few improvements would make it perfect. In the current version there should be a way to insert text or a table below a table. The nuisance workaround is to cut and paste a table to a new location above at least one character of text.
2. At the top of the Font List should be a list of the most recently used fonts and the focus should always go first to this recently used font list when opening the Font List. Microsoft Word, Corel Draw and Serif DrawPlus for at least 15 years have had this most useful feature. TextMaker did it wrong including font styles and sizes on the list. This makes it useless. 3. It should be possible to customize the mouse menus. 4. And it should be possible to customize the tool icons as it has been in Microsoft Word for at least 15 years. Softmaker Office 2012 is highly usable, nearly perfect, and at $24.99 you can't go wrong.
Jul 12 2013 at 8:03am Copy Link
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Eddie Tex @Steven Aves,

Quite simply, it's just a better all-around suite. It has been a while since I last tried using LibreOffice (was still OpenOffice when I tested it), but back then, I did a similar comparison with SoftMaker's suite. Among other things, the interface was more intuitive, the support for Office formatted documents was better executed, and plus you can run the SoftMaker suite in portable mode. It was also more light-weight and better performing.

In fact, I struggled to find any reason to prefer OpenOffice back then.
Jul 12 2013 at 8:17am Copy Link
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Mark Chiang So I have to ask, maybe Eddie or Martin can answer about the differences between Ashampoo Office and Softmaker Office aside from the 3 licenses. I'd love to support Softmaker but excessive emails aside Ashampoo does offer these crazy bargain basement prices if you sign up for their mailing list, if someone is on a tight budget that tends to be a significant difference..
Jul 12 2013 at 9:53am Copy Link
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Martin Kotulla Mark, Ashampoo Office comes with just one license, does not include BasicMaker, and neither comes with eM Client nor the Berlitz dictionaries. Plus, they handle tech support themselves.
SoftMaker Software GmbH - Jul 12 2013 at 10:14am Copy Link
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Eddie Tex If you get the standard version, then this deal today is even lower on a per license basis than what Ashampoo would typically offer. If you go for professional edition, then you get the additional components mentioned by Martin.

SoftMaker is the original developer of these products also, so the tech support benefit can be significant as well.

That said, I agree... if someone is looking for the lowest price possible and needs only 1 license and is not likely to need help from the original developer, then the Ashampoo offering could be the better fit.
Jul 12 2013 at 10:59am Copy Link
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Northern sp. z o.o. I want buy to our company. How can i buy without Vat and take invoice ??
Jul 12 2013 at 11:28am Copy Link
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Martin Kotulla Arkadiusz, you have to contact us at salessoftmaker.com to arrange that - please note that we don't ship on open invoice, though.
SoftMaker Software GmbH - Jul 12 2013 at 11:35am Copy Link
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Wearsie Jackson Looks very cool! Can eMclient sync with Google calendar and Google Contacts?

I'm trying to sync with my Android phone native apps (I know you have an Android version too)
Jul 12 2013 at 5:47pm Copy Link
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Gonzo I just bought the Standard edition, as I was certain that I already had eM Client from a previous BDJ offer; however that's not the case... now I wish I had checked before, so I would have bought Pro instead.

Is there anyway I can upgrade to Pro by paying the USD 15 difference?

I sent an email to SoftMaker support as well, just in case.
Jul 12 2013 at 5:55pm Copy Link
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Roderick Nicolson Can you help. I'm unable to make the purchase of the standard Office 2012 because your address fill-in sees me as in South Korea which is true but my purchase is from a UK bank.
With out the correct details it will fail. There is no option to edit the country and there is only 40 minutes left to make the purchase at the reduced cost.

Thank you.
Jul 12 2013 at 11:20pm Copy Link
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Arlene Manduca Looks like a GREAT deal. Pro version of $39.99 covers installations on 3 PC'S and simultaneous use. About $13 /copy. Major shareware sites, PC Mag, Softonic, etc reviews praise ease of use over other products. Also close to flawless compatibility and conversion of MS Office files, incl spreadsheet formulas, etc. Pro Version seems to have an email client. Click "purchase." will show the price difference between standard and pro versions. Would be helpful if they put all pricing and versions on the offering page.
Jul 13 2013 at 1:49am Copy Link
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VLM Software Guy - You write that "The standard suite is just fine for most users unless you plan to use eMClient to replace Outlook," Outlook is THE big MS Office component for which I seek a total replacement. I have massive PST files, 70000 messages in all, give or take. I have thought of signing up for The Bat! What are your thoughts (or anyone else's thoughts :) regarding this aspect of SoftMaker Office? Top notch as the rest of the suite?

Also, does this product rely primarily upon traditional menus or upon ribbon insanity (not that I have a strong opinion here :). I ask, because of another comment question, above..

Thanks!
Jul 13 2013 at 2:48am Copy Link
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Constantin Florea @Roderick Nicolson - The promotion has been extended today 07/13/2013 as well. We have just contacted the vendor to help with the issue you mention.
BitsDuJour Admin - Jul 13 2013 at 3:02am Copy Link
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Software Guy @VLM - check this link for more information.
http://www.softmaker.com/...wem_en.htm
if you want to replace Outlook then Pro should work just fine for you . Or you might consider converting the message files from .pst to standard windows files using software like Everdesk or similar.
I have not compared emclient to everdesk - their concepts are slightly different, but my personal choice was to convert and archive the old pst files to regular files so that they can be accessed much more easily. For that I use everdesk.
My application had to convert about 50,000 emails, and it took it a while to accomplish but they were completed and ready for archive the next day. After that everdesk converted the daily load in real time.
It just depends what you want to do - replace outlook (both programs will do that) or convert and archive old mail.
Jul 13 2013 at 3:50am Copy Link
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TopDog @VLM I just purchased the Pro version of this software yesterday and so only have limited experience with it. I can tell you two things I have noticed. One the eMClient does use traditional menus which I like. Two it is much faster than Outlook.

I mainly wanted something I could afford to keep up with, that is why I wanted to try this suite. Microsofts products are just too costly to try keep upgrading to the latest versions. I think this is going to work for me. Just my two cents.
Jul 13 2013 at 6:01am Copy Link
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VLM Software Guy - Thank you for your kind response! I have never heard of EverDesk, will look into it! Surely getting rid of PST files sounds like a GREAT idea. And one thing that has held me back from pursuing The Bat!, if I understand correctly, is that it means going from one proprietary format to another ... no way to get email nicely OUT of The Bat!, once in, so far as I am aware. The idea of storing emails as individual files is most appealing!

I take it that you use EverDesk as your primary email client? The feature set looks most impressive!
Jul 13 2013 at 6:29am Copy Link
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Steven Aves @VLM Another suggestion for integrated E-mail, contacts, etc is Intellect from Chaossoftware.com http://www.chaossoftware....llect.aspx I've used it extensively for business and personal since 2008. E-mail format is not proprietary - export to eml
Jul 13 2013 at 7:15am Copy Link
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Bertie Brummel @ VLM: The Bat! allows to export messages to *.msg, *.eml and *.mbx.
It also has an import assistantance for the most common mail clients / PIMs.
Jul 13 2013 at 7:15am Copy Link
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Roderick Nicolson Thanks for your help Constantin.
I tried again and thought the problem was solved as it offered me the option to change the country. I changed it to the UK but after going to the next page it was back to South Korea again, and without any option to change it. Grrrrrr!
The vendor has not got in touch with me over this despite my sending them an email directly from their own site also.
Would appreciate your continued help.

Thank you.
Jul 13 2013 at 7:49am Copy Link
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Bertie Brummel @ Roderick: Softmaker's support is always responsive. However, there are work-free weekends in Germany ;-)
Jul 13 2013 at 8:17am Copy Link
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VLM Bertie Brummel and Roderick Nicolson - Thank you both! My email application is a centerpiece of my electronic existence, and honestly, I find it most challenging trying to decide with what to replace Outlook. I only know that Outlook MUST go!!!

Software Guy - In reading a bit more about EverDesk and thinking about it a bit, I have come upon a question: My impression is that EverDesk stores all emails in a single directory tree, for which the user may identify the root directory. But if I were to choose this emails-as-files approach, I'd much prefer to identify specific folders wherever I find them convenient ... project folders, if you will. Would you be willing to describe your experience in this regard?

All three of these applications - EverDesk, Chaos Intellect, and The Bat! seem like a great leap forward in contrast with MS Outlook. But which one to choose? How to decide?

Sigh ...
Jul 13 2013 at 8:59am Copy Link
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Jim McGowan Hi Martin!

I initially purchased this product as a combo for both Windows and Pocket PC back in 2004, and I still have SM Office Pro 2012 now. Great product!

A question for you: I presently have my Softmaker Office Pro 2012 installed on a notebook computer, and Microsoft Office 2010 on my desktop. I would like to install SM Office Pro 2012 on my desktop also, but can it peacefully exist along with Microsoft Office 2010, at least until I get everything squared away here and eventually uninstall MS Office? There are a few Excel files I use that I can view the way I need for now in MS Office so I need to keep that installed for the time being.

Any known conflicts?

Thank you,

Jim
Jul 13 2013 at 9:00am Copy Link
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Martin Kotulla @Rich: 1. If you manage to create a table with no paragraph below it, place the cursor behind the last character in the last cell, then press CursorRight. The caret will now flash to the right of the table, and you can press Return to create a paragraph again. 2. Some people like the "favorite fonts", some people hate it. It definitely breaks alphabetical cycling through the font list. The font list contains character styles (of which most documents will have nearly none), but not font sizes. 3 & 4: Noted.

@Wearsie: Yes, syncing with Google Calendar and contacts is supported.

@Gonzo: We can swap it. Wait for our sales department to come back on Monday.

@Roderick: If you are in Korea, you have set the country correctly. This has no connection with in which country your credit card was issued. If your card fails to process, there must be a different reason. You could pay via Paypal or wait until Monday to sort this out with our sales department.

@Jim: SoftMaker Office coexists peacefully with all other office suites, including MS Office. Just be sure to make a sound decision if you want to keep .doc/.xls etc. associated with MS Office or reassociate them with SoftMaker Office (it's an option in our setup program). You can open these documents from inside either application, but double-clicking on a document opens the application that you chose to associate.
SoftMaker Software GmbH - Jul 13 2013 at 10:35am Copy Link
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Software Guy @VLM the Everdesk client shell stores the files in a tree. You can then move them as you will or sort by rules. But the main point is that they are no longer mail client files, so the entire spectrum of sorting, finding and archiving available through windows is now open to you. You no longer will need a mail client to find, read or manipulate the files - you can use robobasket or even a windows explorer replacement like xyplorer for basic file manipulation. If you have massive numbers of files which you must reference constantly, you could set them up in a database. But just the fact that they are now simply files makes them far more accessible and useful than being forced to use an email client shell to perform the simplest tasks.
Try Everdesk - it takes a small amount of learning, but IMHO it is time well spent. It works differently than some other software - it reads the files from outlook in batch mode either in real time or whenever you decide to convert. Once the everdesk mail client processes the files (something you can control) you no longer require an email client shell to find, sort or manipulate the files. I consider it email freedom. No more gigantic pst files which slow outlook, so even outlook seems OK for day to day email again. Put up with the small learning curve and understand how Everdesk works, and you will be happy.
One word of warning though - now all of the files are simply windows files stored locally, so it is up to you to perform drive images or data file backup, which ever is best for you.
So you ask me what do I use- I actually use Softmaker office as my preferred office suite. I use outlook simply because it is the default client by my email provider for day to day use - but you can use the everdesk client if you prefer. And I let Everdesk process the files in batch weekly rather than in real time. But you can set it up as you find best for you.
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ddalian I would like to use the pro version on an HP win 8 - 64 gig tablet. How large is the installed pro version? Does the software support the touch screen and normal gestures?
Jul 13 2013 at 11:14am Copy Link
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Martin Kotulla Duane, the installation archive is 260 MBytes. The actual installed size depends on the options that you choose -- up to 850 MBytes for everything including Russian spell checking and Greek hyphenation... :-)

The software takes no special advantage of a touch screen. It sees it as an input device like a mouse. With finger touch, you might have trouble reaching some dialog box elements, so a stylus may be preferable. But I have the same issues with Microsoft Office RT on a Windows RT tablet -- and _they_ claim it is touch-friendly.
SoftMaker Software GmbH - Jul 13 2013 at 11:17am Copy Link
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Northern sp. z o.o. Martin
I sent message yesterday,but I didn't receive any answer.
Jul 13 2013 at 12:18pm Copy Link
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Martin Kotulla Arkadiusz, I am just jumping in here on the weekend in my free time. Our employees will return to work on Monday and reply to your mail.
SoftMaker Software GmbH - Jul 13 2013 at 12:25pm Copy Link
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John H I cut the cord to MS Office back in the 90s and have been using Open Office. Thought I would try this. It will not open *.ods spreadsheet files. This is a deal breaker for me since I do not have the time to convert all my "*.odt" research files to compatible form.

Please let me know if I am doing something wrong.

It will do Open Office ODT format but I switched to RTF format years ago seeing that word processor files and their special formats were overkill.

I was interested in your Android App but compatibility with Open Office spreadsheets will be a deal breaker.

I am currently using MobiSystems Office Suite 6 on my Straight Talk Android phone for very limited spreadsheet use. It has been compatible with Open Office ODT files.

Always looking for something better especially when I upgrade to a large tablet.

Thanks
Jul 13 2013 at 12:45pm Copy Link
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Martin Kotulla We support OpenDocument in the word processor, but not yet in the spreadsheet. This is on the wishlist for the future, but no coding has been done on it yet.
SoftMaker Software GmbH - Jul 13 2013 at 12:50pm Copy Link
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John H More thoughts......
My main interest in switching to a non free Office Suite is in having professionally edited dictionaries for spell checking. I never fully trust whatever sources open software uses but it does force me to actually proof read my documents.

I have no problem with the MS Ribbon interface and sort of like it in the simpler MS programs, Paint and WordPad. Though it does not seem like an option for Linux programs. Will be switching to Linux whenever I find a decent Linux CAD program.
Jul 13 2013 at 12:56pm Copy Link
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VLM Martin Kotulla - I sent an email yesterday regarding a payment issue that pertains only to us. I have received no response. Shall I just wait until your Monday? Thanks!
Jul 13 2013 at 3:53pm Copy Link
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Roderick Nicolson Thanks for your reply Martin, but the address is marked as billing address. If I try to buy, even with PayPal, the sale will be rejected because the billing address is incorrect. Neither banks nor PayPal except a billing address different from the one they have stored. You should know this.
The reason I'm careful is because I've been hit by this problem several times already.
It really is time that you sellers came up with a sensible solution for the multitude of problems that are being created by an ignorance of the buyers circumstances. You are dealing on an international scene now, not a regional one as it once was. All these differences have to be taken into account if it's going to work. Giving the buyer some freedom in the address fields would help for a start.
4 or 5 years ago, buying online was easy, now, with many of the sellers, except a few like Ashampoo who seem to have cracked the issues around online selling, there are hair tearing problems due to rigid systems and databases that are unfit for international use.
Anyway, that's my ten pence worth.
Please don't take it personally but please take it too heart.
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VLM Software Guy - Thank you for that extensive and (as always) excellent explanation. So you do not use EverDesk as your email client, though you COULD; you use it to archive what's in Outlook periodically, to keep the PST files small and therefore Outlook (relatively) light. I wonder whether you could do the same with the SoftMaker Office email client. Hmmm ... interesting possibility.
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K D @Rep just wondering how this deal differs from the present (greater) discount available at Softpedia? I have purchased from there but assuming that is one licence rather than 3, I will jump on this deal as well. Thanks.
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Gonzo It is not specified in the Softpedia website whether it is 1 or 3 PC license, but I'd guess it's 3; however it's only for the Standard edition.
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K D @Gonzo, thanks for your input. The standard edition suits me fine, but not sure why the difference in editions didn't occur to me earlier!
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VLM Software Guy - Regarding EverDesk, a question occurs to me: How do you efficiently search the messages, now files on disk, using various parameters such as sent from, sent to, date (whichever), embedded text, and the like?

Thanks!
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Eddie Tex @VLM, after reading the dialogue between you and the others regarding email clients, I decided to give some of them a test drive. To answer your question (if you haven't figured it out already), EverDesk requires Microsoft Search to be installed. Once you've done so, you an use the built-in search box in EverDesk to specify those types of parameters.

I'm currently a Postbox user and I've now tried The Bat and EverDesk... and I'm considering trying Intellect Chaos. After six days, I've uninstalled The Bat (powerful but convoluted interface and incomplete help... I experienced too many random issues as well). I really love the integration EverDesk supports with Google (mail, contacts, calendar, and docs)... I seriously might buy it on that feature alone even though I'm not crazy about the interface. Sorting appears to be limited to incoming messages and cannot be invoked manually (or at least I haven't yet figured out how). I will probably end up staying with Postbox as my primary email program, though EverDesk could provide enormous value as an offline source of my Google data.
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VLM Eddie - Thanks! I'm in the midst of an unplanned, forced move, so I haven't had time for software testing. Back to it in a couple of weeks, I hope. :)
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