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William McKeever Will the discount be offered on the Pro version as well?

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Kyle A Yes -- 61% off for either edition. I'll request that the BDJ folks update the page with that information.

Kinook Software, Inc. - Sep 30 2009 at 12:51am Copy Link

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Kevin Cheng Can the discount be offered for the Upgrade of the Pro version please?

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Kyle A The Pro upgrade ($50) isn't discounted, but it will be cheaper to buy outright here on Oct. 7 ($39).

Kinook Software, Inc. - Sep 30 2009 at 4:29am Copy Link

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Mike G Oh yes! I'll definitely be jumping on BDJ for this. I was just about to upgrade from Ultra Recall Pro 3 to 4 and consider it worth every penny. Now I can get 4 for even less than the upgrade price!

Ultra Recall is one of the most important apps on my computer. I use it to store all kinds of work and personal information. Everyone comes to me for answers at work. Ultra Recall is the "secret" weapon (although I openly tell everyone about UR, some still don't make the connection) and it's why I can always find important info at home in seconds.

I'm getting ready to build a new PC. All my notes, Web sites, diagrams, performance charts, newsgroup discussions, prices, etc. are all stored in UR. Just copy, link, drag and drop or type anything you don't want to lose in there and you're done. You can have fun discovering all the features later. :- ]

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BitsDuJUser Hi,

I may be interested in the pro version if and only if it works with Outlook Business Contact Manager. There are no references in this regards in the help file.

Earlier, I had found your product and after installing I deinstalled it due to the trial limitations. I could not test properly. The price was anathor factor.

Although those utilities may be nice and interesting, summing up all the utilities, it may become too expensive.

Hence the discount price is good enough to invest money for such an utility.

However due to propreitery format it becomes restrictive in use.

hence I need to know full clarification regarding tighter integration with Business Contact Manager in outlook 2007 if it would also interface with the SQL Addressbook + Projects with integrated SQL.

Oct 1 2009 at 8:25pm Copy Link

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Kyle A The UR Outlook sync/import functionality does work with Business Contact Manager accounts, contacts, tasks, etc.

Kinook Software, Inc. - Oct 2 2009 at 6:48am Copy Link

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Kyle A Also, if you hit the eval limit for database size, send an email to support

kinook.com requesting that we send a temp key to remove this limit. Thanks.

Kinook Software, Inc. - Oct 2 2009 at 6:49am Copy Link

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Bob S I'm interested in evaluating Ultra Recall for a variety of purposes.

I am especially interested in its capabilities for handling structured data. For instance, in a list of contacts, can I create (as one example) fields for (i) company name; (ii) date of last contact; (iii) conference at which we met; etc. and "prepopuate" these fields with values from which I can select in a pulldown menu.

I've looked at the tagging functionality in UR, but I don't see where one can create a subset of keywords that would be specific to a particular field. In other words, when I'm selecting the value for "conference," I wouldn't want to select from a list that includes "companies."

Also, how much flexibility does one have in creating fields - e.g., number, length, type, layout, etc.?

Thank you.

Oct 6 2009 at 6:29pm Copy Link

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TopDog I went to the web site to read about this program but could find no information on the difference between the standard and the professional versions. Could you tell me the difference?

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Patrick N bought v3 last time offered here
i am very glad that i did, i also upgraded early to v4 ($50) totaling $89

v4 was recently released and works now fine with windows7
getting v4 here today $19.00\$39.00 must be considered a bargain

exellent software & often updated, kinooks techforum is also interesting, people buying today should pay a visit
personally i think kinook should promote this software better besides bitsdujour
not only for kinooks sales but people may actually miss out on this great software

thanks for a wonderful program

Oct 6 2009 at 7:53pm Copy Link

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Wolfgang K Hello,

can i buy the software without credit card? I have not credid card.
I can buy with paypal. Any chance for this offer?

Oct 6 2009 at 8:32pm Copy Link

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Merle One Strange behavior in the standard version : when I open a sample, Document Summary, and go into the quick search, and type A320, nothing is returned, even if there is a "Airbus A320" picture in the database. But when I enter Manhattan, it does find the right picture. I have chosen on purpose the second word of the picture title. Is this a bug ?

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Merle One Is there an upgrade path from the Std to the Pro version ? Thanks.

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Nick Kobe Hi! Does the software license apply to a single user or to a single computer? I have several computers that I use and would need to install the software on each computer (desktop + laptops). Many thanks! Nick

Oct 6 2009 at 10:26pm Copy Link

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BitsDuJUser Hello,

The company was very kind to offer a 21 days license for testing. I found out that the UltraRecall Pro does not work with Business Contact Manager

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"The UR Outlook sync/import functionality does work with Business Contact Manager"
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Everything is extremely beautifully designed. Here, I do have heaps of suggestions for making the workflows much better, but that my taste of improvement.

Hope that they send me some news about the possibility to mke it work some day.

However, I would really recommend everyone to buy this lovely software.

Oct 7 2009 at 12:25am Copy Link

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Kyle A Bob S: Yes, you can create any number of custom attributes, which can be string (with a drop-down list of values), date, numeric, and other types (via Tools | Attributes). These can be assigned to a template with default values, added to a form, etc. You could create a custom attribute for "conference" with a list of choices.
http://www.kinook.com/Ult...ribute.htm
http://www.kinook.com/Ult...mplate.htm
http://www.kinook.com/Ult...viewer.htm

Tagging is a little different, and can be used to associate one or more keywords with different items (Item | Keywords - User-defined keywords).
http://www.kinook.com/Ult...ywords.htm

Kinook Software, Inc. - Oct 7 2009 at 1:13am Copy Link

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Kyle A TopDog curious: See here for the Std/Pro feature comparison:
http://www.kinook.com/Ult...tions.html

Kinook Software, Inc. - Oct 7 2009 at 1:14am Copy Link

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Kyle A Merle One: The regular Std - Pro price is $50.

When that sample was created, Ultra Recall did not keyword words containing digits by default. Now it does default to doing so, but the sample was not updated. If you do File | Save As (to make an editable copy), then rename the item, searching on a320 will find that item. We'll also fix the sample. Thanks.

Kinook Software, Inc. - Oct 7 2009 at 1:20am Copy Link

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Kyle A Nick Kobe: Licensing is per user or per computer, so one license covers a single user installing on multiple computers.
http://www.kinook.com/Ult...eement.htm

Kinook Software, Inc. - Oct 7 2009 at 1:23am Copy Link

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Merle One Thanks for the quick response. Now I just have to decide to go for Std or Pro...

Oct 7 2009 at 1:47am Copy Link

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Kyle A Wolfgang K: Can you email us at support

kinook.com and we'll handle this offline? Thanks.

Kinook Software, Inc. - Oct 7 2009 at 2:12am Copy Link

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David Ross I see that the program supports MS Office and Outlook files. Can you import text-based PDFs and search the text of the PDFs? Thanks.

Oct 7 2009 at 2:25am Copy Link

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Merle One David R : according to the comparison table betweem Std and Pro version, both versions import pdf but only the Pro can search the text within. But wait for Kinook actual answer !

Oct 7 2009 at 3:39am Copy Link

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Kyle A David R: Yes, UR can import PDF files, but only the Professional edition will keyword the text content for searching.

Kinook Software, Inc. - Oct 7 2009 at 4:19am Copy Link

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Merle One A question about the standard version : is it supposed to be bale to load a URL( (acces Internet) when behind a corporate firewall, I seem to have problem with that, not with the pro version. Thanx

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Kyle A There isn't any difference between the Std and Pro editions regarding connecting to the internet. Maybe some security software is blocking it?

Kinook Software, Inc. - Oct 7 2009 at 5:51am Copy Link

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Merle One Seems to be solved after reboot. However, I still have a bunch of question on how to use UR, I hope I'll find the answer before the discount is over. For example : when I import a single favorite, how do I access again the original URL. There is no "properties" for a given item, at least none I could find.

Thanks.

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Kyle A To view the URL, look in the Item Attributes pane (View | Other Windows | Item Attributes).

Kinook Software, Inc. - Oct 7 2009 at 6:28am Copy Link

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Bob S I agree with others who indicate that tools like UR are indispensable. If you don't use one regularly, you are missing out on a tremendously useful productivity and research tool.

I currently use another outliner (MyInfo) extensively, but it looks as though UR ver. 4 contains some new features that may distinguish it.

Two question as I contemplate switching:
1. I see that you have an import facility for MyInfo files. Does this import all of the info contained in the MyInfo files (including what MyInfo calls attributes - this is where I've created "custom fields" for tagging with drop-down lists. I don't want to lose all of this meta data).
2. Is there a limit on the # of documents/items that can be stored in a UR database or the file size? I currently have 1,000's in one file, and the file size is 62.4 MB.

Thank you.

Oct 7 2009 at 8:30am Copy Link

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Kyle A 1. It doesn't import MyInfo files directly, but it can import some of MyInfo's export formats. See
http://www.kinook.com/For...eadid=1071

Last time we checked, MyInfo did not export custom fields.

2. The size limit is very large (2 terabytes). Many users have multi-GB databases. See here for more details:
http://www.kinook.com/For...readid=709
http://www.kinook.com/For...readid=731

Kinook Software, Inc. - Oct 7 2009 at 9:04am Copy Link

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Alan I purchased the Pro version in June 2008, and used the Portable USB version for a while.

Does V4 Pro still have a version for running from a USB drive?
The sale price is cheaper than the upgrade price, so I might be interested if it does.

If so, do all the featiures of UR Pro work with the usb version?

Alan

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Kyle A Yes, v4 Pro can run portable from a USB drive, with the same functionality as the installed version.
http://www.kinook.com/Ult...lation.htm
http://www.kinook.com/Dow...allPro.zip

Kinook Software, Inc. - Oct 7 2009 at 10:35am Copy Link

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Alan Thanks,
Just puchased.
Alan

Oct 7 2009 at 11:59am Copy Link

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Warren Russell I have a question for those of you who have used used both versions 3 and 4 of UltraRecall Pro:

I am a registered owner of version 3 and have been thinking about upgrading, but I am having to pinch ALL my pennies, and so far, haven't found any compelling reason to spend the money to upgrade.

It appears that the biggest difference between the two versions is that version 3 is not compatible with Windows 7, but I'm still running Vista and have no plans to upgrade in the near future.

The highlighting of search results would be very nice to have, but not $39 nice in my current financial situation.

Am I missing anything? Are there any other major changes that would justify upgrading?

Thanks!

Oct 7 2009 at 2:44pm Copy Link

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Kyle A See here for all the changes in v4.
http://www.kinook.com/Ult...rsion4.htm
http://www.kinook.com/For...eadid=4090

Additional v4 updates are also in the works.

Kinook Software, Inc. - Oct 7 2009 at 3:40pm Copy Link

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Bob S I think the developer deserves kudos for promptly (and effectively) answering all the questions interested bdj'ers had. Speaks highly of UR.

I do have one other question - if I use UR primarily for structured data (I believe this uses the forms capabilities), is it possible to search for, select, and generate a list of items that meet certain criteria (e.g., prospects with an interest in X who have not received a certain report)?

And can the list be viewed and output to other programs in "list format? (CSV)?

Oct 7 2009 at 3:44pm Copy Link

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Mike G I'll be brief since there isn't much time remaining for the discount. While the list of major enhancements over version 3 is currently rather sparse, there are numerous smaller improvements. I decided to upgrade in any case to support further development of features on the road map. Kinook has already indicated additional goodies are coming (custom navigation tree sorting is one of several I've been looking forward to that have already been hinted as likely version 4 projects).

Besides, you'll be kicking yourself watching new features roll off the assembly line if you don't grab the big discount today! But, you can always take advantage of the normal, and I think very reasonable, upgrade pricing later.

Look at so many software companies resorting to charging annual license fees (e.g. Info Select) and it highlights how much value we're getting with occasional and relatively inexpensive upgrade pricing for software as feature-rich as Ultra Recall...

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Kyle A Yes, you can perform an advanced search on multiple attributes and export to CSV, Excel, etc.
http://www.kinook.com/Ult...iagrid.htm
http://www.kinook.com/Ult...export.htm

Kinook Software, Inc. - Oct 7 2009 at 3:54pm Copy Link

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Mike G My previous comment is in response to Warren. (Too bad we can't edit our posts in Bits du Jour...)

Oct 7 2009 at 3:58pm Copy Link

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Nico Westerdale Due to the overwhelming response Kinook Software has agreed to extend this deal for a second day - Enjoy!

BitsDuJour Admin - Oct 7 2009 at 4:32pm Copy Link

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Merle One Finally bought one license - Thanks. This is a great product, even if the learning curve seem to be steep...

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Patrick J. Yes, even though it seems it will need some time to get familiarize with it - the first that came into my mind as I opened the help file was "Oh my God!" - I've ordered the Pro version yesterday.

Kyle, thanks for this product and for answering all the questions.
Keep on the good work.

Regards,
Patrick

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Mitchel Haas I purchased the pro version 3.5 last year, so I was happy to see this offer for the 4.0 version, as it was a little less expensive than the upgrade price. I've purchased many many PIM's and note managers over the years, and Ultra Recall has ended being the only one I still use. My favorite use for it is to store and organize my favorite links, blog articles, and forum threads, so they're all in one place, and easily viewed right in the interface without having to use a browser. Of course, I use it for important notes, birthday reminders and other events too.

Oct 7 2009 at 11:43pm Copy Link

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John M Does this work like desktop search products (e.g., X1)? Or do you have to input all the info manually?

Oct 8 2009 at 12:37am Copy Link

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Kyle A Ultra Recall only searches the stuff you put into it. It doesn't index the entire hard drive like desktop search products do.

Kinook Software, Inc. - Oct 8 2009 at 1:00am Copy Link

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Lynn W I'm thinking of converting over from treepad. I'm trying the trial right now and can't find how I can change the icon displayed on the Info Item (by the title in the Data Explorer pane) or the color of the text. Can this be done? Thanks.

Oct 8 2009 at 2:52am Copy Link

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Kyle A Change the icon via the Item Attributes pane (View | Other Windows | Item Attributes, then double-click the Icon attribute). Custom icons can also be imported and used.
http://www.kinook.com/Ult...gement.htm
http://www.kinook.com/For...eadid=1701
http://www.kinook.com/For...eadid=1350

To change the text color, change the Flag attribute.

Kinook Software, Inc. - Oct 8 2009 at 3:03am Copy Link

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Mary Wilson I have enjoyed trying out this program and like the program, but I have found the help section very difficult to use to get a basic understanding on how to use many of its features. It is taken me all morning to figure out how to do the basic work on it. Finally figured out that you need to be able to access another window in the program called "Items Attribute"s to be able to change dates and add information to the many nice templates that are included. Unfortunately, I am unable to get this part of the program to work on the database I created to test out the program. I have looked threw the help section and found mention of this function and how it works, but not but not on how to access it if the function is not up when you create the database.

Oct 8 2009 at 3:51am Copy Link

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Kyle A Select View | Other Windows | Item Attributes on the menu (or press Ctrl+4) to show the Item Attributes pane.

Kinook Software, Inc. - Oct 8 2009 at 4:03am Copy Link

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Kyle A It's not a checkbox per se, but you can enable 'Tools | Options | Trees | Show item flag icon in tree' and restart UR. Then to change an item's flag, click on the item's flag icon (or dot, to the left of the item icon) in the tree, and select a flag value in the popup menu. The flag icon changes to match, and the text is greyed out for the Completed flag.

Kinook Software, Inc. - Oct 8 2009 at 4:42am Copy Link

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Mary Wilson Is there a way to make a checkbox list in this program for projects/tasks?

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Mike G Mary and others, as an avid user of Ultra Recall for several years now I can relate to the sense of a steep learning curve for some of the functionality. UR (especially the Pro edition) is a tool with something for every computer user, from newbies all the way up to power users.

It's difficult, if not impossible, for any application with this many features to make it easy for new users to find everything the first few times they use it. (Look at how much trouble Microsoft is having with Office). I agree in-line Help could be improved in that regard, but you can find pretty much anything by combining Help with the active and information-packed forums. Also, as you can see, Kinook is very responsive to questions.

The secret for me was deciding to stick with basic functions that are easy to find and use. Entering some notes, copying or linking to a few documents and web pages, customizing the data explorer tree to my liking...This covered most of what I needed anyway. Then I gradually read and learned new functions at a more relaxed pace. At that point, Ultra Recall became my best friend. On top of that, I get the bonus of a "Wow, I didn't realize UR could do that!" coming almost as fast as I have time to explore a little deeper.

Good luck and have fun!

Oct 8 2009 at 4:44am Copy Link

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Mary Wilson Before I puchase, I decided to take a look at the Professional version. Many of the items that make the Professional version I don't need. Like that it shows the main attributes on the screen instead of pulling up the attribute from the the disappearing bar. Is this a Professional only attribute? The USB version of this looks promising so does the fact that it has some advanced features for forms, and File/folder synchronization. I really am not understanding what the difference between the Professional and Custom Attributes and custom templates is? Is there any forums that have more information on the Professional version that you know of?

Oct 8 2009 at 5:47am Copy Link

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Kyle A Forms, synchronization, and portable mode are available in the Professional edition only. See here for a detailed comparison:
http://www.kinook.com/Ult...tions.html

Custom attributes are user-defined fields or properties that can be assigned to items and templates.
http://www.kinook.com/Ult...plates.htm

Custom templates are user-defined item types.
http://www.kinook.com/Ult...ibutes.htm

Kinook Software, Inc. - Oct 8 2009 at 5:55am Copy Link

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Mary Wilson Went to purchase this and found where I put my credit card information in that that there is no lock on the bottom of the screen. Is this a secure concection for entering in credit card informaiton?

Oct 8 2009 at 6:46am Copy Link

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Kyle A The page where you enter the quantity is not, but the page where you enter the credit card info is. Testing here, I get a lock icon on the credit card entry page in IE8 and Firefox 3.5.

Kinook Software, Inc. - Oct 8 2009 at 6:53am Copy Link

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Mary Wilson I still am not getting a lock icon on the credit card entry, but I ordered anyways as you say it is secure.

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Jonathan Keener For nearly the past year, I've used the windows version of EverNote (desktop and portable) to handle the kinds of things this tool appears to do.

1. I'm curious if there are any EverNote users that have looked at Ultra Recall and can provide any pros/cons to switching? (Compared to EverNote Premium, Ultra Recall, with this deal, definately wins)

2. Is there any possibility of being able to import from EverNote into this tool?

3. One of the big benefits I've had with EverNote has been the web enablement of it. I can have EverNote installed on multiple machines and a USB key, and they all sync up to the web copy so syncronization is automatic. If I have the portable version installed on a USB and desktop editions installed on a machine, is this easy to sync? Or does it make more sense to always run the portable edition?

4. I use gmail as my primary email. Is there any support for using this with Ultra Recall?

Overall, looking at the trial, it looks like a very nice product, and it is very tempting. I talked myself out of getting it yesterday, but now with the extra day it is tempting me some more.

Oct 8 2009 at 8:18am Copy Link

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Jonathan Keener My comment above in parens (Compared to EverNote Premium, Ultra Recall, with this deal, definately wins) was specifically referring to price.

Oct 8 2009 at 8:19am Copy Link

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Kyle A 2. UR can't import directly from EverNote, but it looks like you could export to HTML or MHT format in EverNote and import that into UR.

3. One option would be to keep the database on the USB stick and access from everywhere (via either the portable or an install version of UR). Another option might be to use some sort of sync tool such as Dropbox.

4. You can import gmail messages into UR using web page capture.

Kinook Software, Inc. - Oct 8 2009 at 10:21am Copy Link

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Nico Westerdale Due to the overwhelming response Kinook Software, Inc. has agreed to extend this deal for another day - Enjoy!

BitsDuJour Admin - Nov 6 2009 at 4:21pm Copy Link

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BitsDuJUser Hi Nico and everyone else,

The software does not work with Business Contact Manager adn hence that may not apply to many. However it is worth to point it out for users who uses.

It was told by the company here as well as in a private email exchange that it connects and works. But not on my computer.

So either the company did not check properly, or with a windows version on which it works or there was something in my workstation that irritated and made it incompatible.

I use FilceCenter (by Lucion.com) that is more expensive but extremely powerful. It does not have any databases, etc and does similar work and achieves the goals beautifully.

However, I offered to help them to troubleshoot for a trade of a license, as I do not really need the software but was curious.

No response was a response.

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john williamson Does the discount apply to the Pro version?

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Kyle A Yes, the Pro edition will be $39.

Kinook Software, Inc. - Mar 18 2010 at 2:21am Copy Link

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Adrian Williams Is there an upgrade offer from std to pro for those of us who have already purchased the std version ?

Mar 18 2010 at 7:21am Copy Link

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Kyle A If you paid full price for the Standard edition, you can purchase the $19 special for the Std edition and we'll process as a Pro upgrade.

Kinook Software, Inc. - Mar 18 2010 at 8:54am Copy Link

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Robert Bull Is there an offer to upgrade from 3.5e Pro to the latest version, please?

Mar 18 2010 at 11:42am Copy Link

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Kyle A Not an upgrade per se, but the BDJ Pro deal is less than the regular upgrade price ($50).

Kinook Software, Inc. - Mar 18 2010 at 11:46am Copy Link

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Nick Kobe When you purchase the software license is the license applied per computer or per user? Thanks!

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Laurie Nelson I really like the look of Ultra Recall, but I can't possibly evaluate such a complicated program in less than two days. The newsletter didn't reach my mailbox until this afternoon. I wish I had known sooner that this was going to be offered.

Also I can't find anywhere information about the size limit of a database. Is there one?

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UR USER LOOK AT THE OLD COMMENTS ABOVE DATED
Oct 7 2009 4:04pm
Kyle Alons (Kinook Software, Inc. Developer) Says:
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2. The size limit is very large (2 terabytes). Many users have multi-GB databases. See here for more details:
http://www.kinook.com/For...readid=709
http://www.kinook.com/For...readid=731

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Kyle A Licensing is per user or per computer, so one license covers a single user installing on multiple computers.
http://www.kinook.com/Ult...eement.htm

Kinook Software, Inc. - Mar 24 2010 at 1:38am Copy Link

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Merle One I bought the pro version with a previous BdJ offer and UR has now become my reference productivity software, for every kind of use. I strongly recommend it. Learning curve may seems steep at first, but the provided examples are helpful and the support on Kinook website it great.

Mar 24 2010 at 2:02am Copy Link

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Nico Westerdale @Laurie Nelson Please note that our preview page shows deals up to seven days in advance, so if you want to get the scoop check there or in our weekly emails.

BitsDuJour Admin - Mar 24 2010 at 3:55am Copy Link

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Laurie Nelson Nico, thanks for the reminder about the preview page. I had forgotten about it.

The weekly email is what I was referring to when I said I got the email (sent at 10:10PM 3/22/10) about noon yesterday (3/23). That gave me less than a day and a half to evaluate Ultra Recall.

Mar 24 2010 at 10:48am Copy Link

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J L Hello

I already had UltraRecall Standard (The boomerapp day).
Today I have purchased the Standard one as an upgrade to the Pro version, but the key does not work.
Then I re-read your comment: "If you paid full price for the Standard edition, you can purchase the $19 special for the Std edition and we'll process as a Pro upgrade." and then I realize my mistake. So, if I cannot have the Pro version, could I have my money back?

Thanks for your support, and sorry about this issue.

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Kyle A I have voided the transaction and your credit card will not be charged. Thanks.

Kinook Software, Inc. - Mar 24 2010 at 11:08am Copy Link

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Nico Westerdale @Laurie Nelson Yes good point! It does depend on which day you get the email. You may have noticed a few "login" links seaking their way into the site. We're slowly rolling out some user features which will include more control on the emails, for example which day you will get the email.

BitsDuJour Admin - Mar 24 2010 at 11:11am Copy Link

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Nico Westerdale Due to the overwhelming response Kinook Software, Inc. has agreed to extend this deal for another day - Enjoy!

BitsDuJour Admin - Mar 24 2010 at 5:00pm Copy Link

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Nico Westerdale @Laurie Nelson We hope that this extra day will help with your evaluation - thanks to Kinook!

BitsDuJour Admin - Mar 25 2010 at 4:58am Copy Link

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David Allen It is too complicated to install ... my daughter is not available ...
I need a self install system. I will not be able to install on my
Windows XP without help ... examples ... not just words.

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Toni McConnel The current deal appears to be for standard edition. Do you plan to offer a deal on Pro edition anytime soon?

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Kyle A The discount can be applied to either the Standard or Professional edition (Pro edition is $39).

Kinook Software, Inc. - Jan 4 2011 at 2:32am Copy Link

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Toni McConnel OK, I'll go for that. I tried Pro last spring, so I can't do a new trial, I assume. I'll trust that the dysfunctions that prevented my buying it last spring have been taken care of by now. Otherwise, when it worked as it should, I liked it a lot.

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Peter L Is it working with Win 7?

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Kyle A Yes, Ultra Recall works on Windows 7 (32- and 64-bit editions).

Kinook Software, Inc. - Jan 4 2011 at 5:43am Copy Link

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DrTeeth "Free upgrades for 2 months, paid upgrade with no discounts to future versions."

Sorry, but what does this mean? Free upgrades for 2/12 seems very mean. The rest of the quote looks similarly miserly but is not 100% clear to me.

Pls clarify.

Guy

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Kyle A All minor releases (i.e., 2.0 - 2.1) are free for licensed users. To upgrade from an earlier version, download the latest version and install over your existing copy. There may be an upgrade fee for major product releases (i.e., 2.x - 3.x). Purchases within 60 days of a major product release are eligible for a free upgrade to the next major version.

http://www.kinook.com/order_policy.html

Kinook Software, Inc. - Jan 4 2011 at 8:37am Copy Link

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DrTeeth Hi,

D/l the pro trial, but it would not run. Just produced a process visible in task manager. Any ideas?

45 days is generous, 20 start-ups is not. A happy medium of a shorter time and no limit on start ups would be handy.

Cheers

Guy

Jan 4 2011 at 8:56am Copy Link

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Kyle A http://www.kinook.com/For...eadid=4041

The eval period is 45 days or 20 uses, whichever comes later.

Kinook Software, Inc. - Jan 4 2011 at 9:56am Copy Link

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Rolf Backman Is there an upgrade offer from std to pro for those of us who have already purchased the std version ?

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Kyle A No, but the BDJ Pro price is less than the regular upgrade price.

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Stephane M Hello,
What is the discount for registered users to upgrade to major versions after the 60-day grace period?
Thanks.

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Stephane M I think I found it, it seems to be half the regular price.
Correct me if I am wrong.
Thanks.

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Tazzie @ Kyle Alons ... I have been testing this on the recommendation of other BDJ users. So far, I really like it! I am in the process of having to reformat my notebook, and wanted to back up the stuff I already had on UR. I searched for a long time, but could not find anything for backing up or exporting files/records. Usually it isn't too hard to find these settings in other programs, but in UR I just couldn't. I ended up saving each record individually for time purposes, since I am only trying it out and was not sure how soon I could get a response if I emailed tech support. Since I do reformat my computers on a regular basis, that has to be a consideration when purchasing s/w. Did I overlook something for backing up/exporting, or is that a limitation of the trial version?

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Tazzie To other BDJ users and visitors, can anyone tell me how UR functions in comparison to other s/w such as Surfulater? I'm not asking for a critical comparison, but just a comparison on how they function, which can be quite different and not an indication of which is better/worse. Thanks!!!

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Kyle A To backup what you have put in UR, copy or backup the .urd file(s) that you have created or added data to.
http://www.kinook.com/Ult...estore.htm

To export data from UR, see http://www.kinook.com/Ult...wizard.htm

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Tazzie @ Kyle, thanks sooo much! I really do like UR, and hated the idea that no backup/export would be a deal breaker. I really appreciate the generous discount, because for a program like UR, the amount of time we have on BDJ usually isn't enough to truly explore all the features. I hate having to make hasty purchase decisions within time limits when I haven't evaluated the software adequately. However, with what I've been able to explore in UR given my time restraints and the generous discount, I feel pretty comfortable with the idea of going ahead and planning to buy UR!

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Pal Molinar Hello,
This is a very nice piece of software. However, I can't find the one deciding point I am looking for. That is when handling larger text on the right upper text pane-side, one cannot fold / collapse several lines under the i.e. first line or an internal headline.
This is very important to get a better overview WITHIN larger Texts and the context.
Did I oversee such an already implemented feature ?
Or is this planned for the next future ?

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Kyle A The rich text editor in UR doesn't support collapsing/folding. You can use Word for editing rich text items, in case Word supports folding.
http://www.kinook.com/Ult...leedit.htm
http://www.kinook.com/Ult...rnally.htm

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Jim McGowan I have been using Ultra Recall Pro for a couple of years and I just wanted to say that this is not a deal to pass up. UR can be used in so many ways to store, organize, and even edit your documents - of almost all kinds. I will admit that it wasn't the kind of program that I could just fire up and use effectively from the start but it has been well worth the learning experience.

I presently use a few different applications to capture and store snippets of information I may need at some time. But Ultra Recall is where I keep all the data that I value. It has been a great investment for me personally.

Thank you.

Jim

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MoHed Berqash Found what I was looking for. Solved ;-)

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K Bruns Hi,

I just tried out UR and came across the following questions:

Question #1

1. I import a Word-file into UR
2. I change the (same) Word-file in MS Word
3. If I like to have the changes visible in UR, it seems as if I have to delete the existing Word-file in UR and then to import the Word-file once again in UR. I tried just to re-import over the existing Word-file in UR (without deleting it), but this did not work. Can UR do this by itself automatically somehow?

Question #2

How can I import linked webpages as well?

Question #3

After having searched for a word, for example, the search result shows the number of documents (respectively items) where the respective word appeared. Can I somehow see how often this respective word is found in one item, and can I somehow jump from search result to search result within one item?

Thanks for answering

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Kyle A #1 -- Synchronize the item in UR (Item | Synchronize or Ctrl+F5).
http://www.kinook.com/Ult...ronize.htm

#2 -- See the drag/drop, copy/paste, Internet Explorer, and Firefox topics under http://www.kinook.com/Ult...mation.htm

#3 -- Show the Relevance column in the Search Results pane (View | Choose Columns or F9), and use the Go | Next Match (F3) and Go | Previous Match (Shift+F3) commands.
http://www.kinook.com/Ult...zation.htm
http://www.kinook.com/Ult...gomenu.htm

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Billie Gray I am using Copernic desktop search, and I am happy with it. Is UR different? better?

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J L Hello,

It seems that the changes in the database are saved on the fly. Is there any way to only save them when I want (A Save button) and discard all the changes made to the database when you close UltraRecall (not save even the database position)?

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K Bruns Hello Kyle,

thanks for answering. Yours UR is really a very useful, sophisticated software. Great product. Unfortunately, I think I have not expressed myself clear in what I meant by "Question #2":

The web page "www.google.com" contains a button respectively a link to the page Google News. Is it possible to import the web page "www.google.com" as well as the web page "news.google.com" in one instance, and if yes, how can I specify how many "linked pages" are imported automatically?

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Kyle A Regarding Copernic, that is a desktop search program, which indexes and allows searching of documents on your computer. UR is information organizer software, which allows capturing, organizing, and searching information and documents that you put into UR.

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Kyle A Regarding saving, no that isn't a way to make several unsaved changes and discard when closing the database, although you can undo any changes before closing the database.

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Kyle A Regarding your question #2, UR does not spider web sites, also importing the pages linked on a given web page, if that's what you mean.

Kinook Software, Inc. - Jan 10 2011 at 2:53am Copy Link

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Martin Satinsky I am a sole practitioner accountant and the only user of my lap top and desktop computers. Can I use one license of Ultra Recall Pro on both PCs?

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Kyle A Yes.
http://www.kinook.com/UR/...eement.htm

Kinook Software, Inc. - Jan 10 2011 at 4:29am Copy Link

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DrTeeth Had probs with UR starting on a soon-to-be ditched Win 7 32 bit install, so tested it on a vanilla 64 bit install with 8GB memory, Intel i7 860. The third loading (i.e. cached) after install took *26* seconds, testing the pro version. I cannot even test it properly with that load time.

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Kyle A That's definitely not normal. My PC has almost identical specs as yours, and UR cold start time is about 2 seconds (activating from system tray is instant). See if any of these help:
http://www.kinook.com/For...eadid=4041

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J L Regarding saving. So de only way to protect a database from undesired changes is by the use of Ultra Recall Viewer. And when you want to add something to it, the database should be opened with the Standard/Professional version. Is there another way to do it?

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Max Murkel Does the GUI support German language?

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Kyle A Regarding saving, another option would be to set the .urd file's read-only attribute.

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Kyle A Regarding German, there isn't a German translation available, but most text in the GUI can be translated by the user.
http://www.kinook.com/For...eadid=3873

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H P I read somewhere that in the "Child Items", you can have those child items of an item in tree order (even when I don't know how to do it), but it seems you must option for this every time you display an item = any time you click on an item, you must then change the display of its child items from alphabetical to tree order, and the same for every items whose child items you want to have displayed in ABC order?

Isn't there any OPTION to OPT for this display in tree order, for UR in a whole or at leat for any UR file, so that those child items will be AUTOMATICALLY be displayed in tree order when you click on a parent item?

The sense of all this would be to have the child items of an item displayed in tree order = in the order YOU wanted them to be, in this child items window, so as not to have to double-click each item in order to have its child items displayed in the order YOU chose.

Since the tree of a large file can become quite big, this would be important for me (I know UR has hoisting, but displaying child items in tree order would make that you didn't have to hoist the tree but for an item really important.

Did I overlook this option to display child items in tree order, or does UR not allow this? If not, do you plan to implement such a command?

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Kyle A After showing the Tree Order column and sorting on it, right-click the column header and choose Set as Default in the popup menu to use that layout for all items of that type.
http://www.kinook.com/Ult...stence.htm

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H P I have seen the Customizationpersiste help page and tried in vain to understand it. In fact, there are wtp such column headers, first there is "Child Items" on orange, then there is another header, called "Item Title", and other columns, above a blue line on white background, and above the child items.

Even before your kind answer, I had tried to right-click on both header lines, but there is NO option whatsoever there, only "Set as Default" = the columns to be displayed, and if the abc is downward or upward, NOWHERE I see any possibility to set "tree order" or something other that would make them in tree order, not even for the current list, let alone for any default.

Please understand that I am NOT trying to say UR isn't good, and in fact, I'm really considering bying it, were it not for this. So I'm not trying to say the help file cannot be understood, I'm just saying that I do not understand this issue even when I try.

So please try to explain the solution to me in other words, the help file page cannot give me the answer.

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Kyle A See screen recording at http://www.kinook.com/Dow...eOrder.zip

Kinook Software, Inc. - Jan 10 2011 at 8:24am Copy Link

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Mick Hayes Does it support MS Office 2010?

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Kyle A Yes.

Kinook Software, Inc. - Jan 10 2011 at 8:31am Copy Link

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Mick Hayes i don't use Outlook. Never will. Does UR work as a stand alone personal information manager (PIM)?

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Kyle A UR can integrate with Outlook, but there is no requirement to use it with Outlook.

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H P Thank you very much for this big step ahead. I clicked "View", clicked "Choose Columns", opted for "Tree Order" and did then get that "Tree Order" was another column that could be put in 1,2,3 order. Worked perfectly for the item where I did this, so I have at least understood now how to set this for a GIVEN ITEM.

As said, this is a big step ahead, and I'm thankful that at last I know this. But my initial question was, how to set the preference for a WHOLE FILE? And if this is not possible, is this in the making? My motivation is very simple: If I have a big file, in Professional Version, with thousands of items, I'll have hundreds of items with subitems, so setting this default for each of those items seperately would take many hours!

Is there a global default option for this, or will it be introduced?

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Kyle A Set as Default, as shown in the screen recording, sets that layout as the default for all items of that item type (template). The default does need to be set separately for each distinct template item in the database.
http://www.kinook.com/Ult...stence.htm
http://www.kinook.com/Ult...mplate.htm

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H P Thank you very much, I got it now, sets the default for all coming later when I do it for a template. So I'm very pleased this is possible. Last question, but I'll buy anyway: If I do lots of importing, and want to have my imported items to behave in this way, I'll just have to set this up for the template, then do a new item depending on this template, and then import my TreePad files as children of this item?

Or do those newly imported files behave otherwise, not as items created manually within UR itself = would their child panes sorted in tree order, like child items created "within" UR?

Excuse for my dumb questioning instead of just trying out myself, but in Europe it's late in the evening, and I'm deadly tired...

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Stephane M Hello,

The policy here says free upgrades for 2 months but is it applicable to updates as well?
In other words, are the updates within the same major version free or paid?

Thanks.

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tom drake Stephane M:
UltraRecall updates are always free.

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Kyle A @H P: That's correct.

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Kyle A Minor updates (i.e., v4.x) within the same major version (i.e., v4) are free.

Kinook Software, Inc. - Jan 10 2011 at 10:31am Copy Link

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Stephane M Thanks Tom and Kyle.

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Mick Hayes What impact does UR's database have on my C: drive space? And/or can the primary location of UR's database be set to an external drive?

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Kyle A If your UR database is stored on the C: drive, whatever you add to the database will decrease the free space on that volume. You can locate your UR database(s) on any drive (including external drives). You can move a .urd file to another location with Explorer.

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Brenda Gann I tried saving a webpage in Chrome with UR. It did not save people's avatars. It showed a red x where the avatar should be.

I tried to save an item from QVC. It would give an error message when I tried to import it. Then I did it by pasting the URL. It did not give an error message but the picture of the item not there. It also was doing things like using the wrong font for the page.

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Kyle A Please provide the URLs of the problem pages. Thanks.

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Brenda Gann This isn't the same one from above but it has the same issue with the avatars

http://icanhascheezburger...nia-brb-2/

its supposed to have a picture of the item for sale but the place where the picture should be is blank. There are also other problems such as there is supposed to be tabs for picture and video, and the tabs are not shown.. the text for them is shown in a much bigger font going down the page and there are no tabs. probably what is supposed to be the picture is shown in the middle of the page with a red x

http://www.qvc.com/qic/qv...ger-Bundle

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Kyle A For the first URL, rename the item, removing the single quote characters:

going to narnia brb - Lolcats 'n' Funny Pictures of Cats - I Can Has Cheezburger?

to

going to narnia brb - Lolcats n Funny Pictures of Cats - I Can Has Cheezburger?

Then refresh (F5). For some reason, IE has trouble handling a folder/filename containing these characters.

The 2nd URL uses some sort of funky Flash embedding which UR isn't able to capture.

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Roberto wow! this is a must have. dont search more outliners, this is the best one.

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Mike Z What are the differences between standard version and professional version?

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Roberto you have them in the website. (look in the footer)

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Michael K The headline price is for the Standard version - will there be an option on the "Buy Now" button to buy the Pro version instead, which is what I would buy?

Thanks

Michael

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Adrian Williams Since I bought it many offers ago, I use it daily. Very flexible. In fact I'm probably not getting the most out of it. One thing that I think lets it down is the weak text formatting, tables and minimal spreadsheet functions. I'd like to have ultra recall manage my projects and have child text files as individual letters and invoices so each project can be self-contained. I guess it's not a full-blown word processor so I may be expecting too much. Support is good and the forum is well populated.

Wy review may pick out the weaker side (my opinion) but the strengths far outweigh the weaknesses. just be sure to back up up your files though. I've had a couple of instances when the file couldn't be re-opened after a premature shutdown and had to rely on a backup. After this hiccup I looked elsewhere for an alternative and - I couldn't find one that does so much in one package.
In summary, download the trial and take a look. It's a lot to get your head around initially but worth the effort.

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Kyle A The differences between editions are shown at http://www.kinook.com/UR/editions.html

The order page will include choices for the Standard ($19) or Professional ($39) edition.

Thanks.

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Roberto Ultrarecall is the best choice. And offer here is a bargain, buy the pro version!!

If somebody searching a lightweigh one: smereka treeprojects is working fine for me too.

Another soft that i used before was Action Outline (now i dont use it, i lost some data when closing Windows.. seems that AO not saved the data or it was cached and the database was not saved correctly).

Now I use ultrarecall and smereka daily. They do the job.

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Experience Second subscription with no regrets whatsoever & yes, you go pro.
You would likely want encryption, portability, hoist, synch, custom forms & much more, UR is frequently updated with new features and improvements and has a great support forum - 5/5

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BitsDuJUser Hello Kyle,

I do not have or use credit card nor will have it in future.
Please send me a link to pay for a pro version through Paypal.

Thanks.

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Tomasz Lisowski " Free upgrades for 2 months, paid upgrade with no discounts to future versions." Please clarify: the "upgrade" term here means "an upgrade to the next major version", as on your website, right? And the updates within the major version are free. Correct?

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Grenville Bingham Hello,

How do I import InfoSelect, you list it as supported for import but it is not in the Wizard? This is a key issue for me.

Thanks, Gren. Bingham

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Bob Hughes To Tomasz - see this website for upgrade policies:
http://www.kinook.com/order_policy.html

Upgrades
All minor releases (i.e., 2.0 - 2.1) are free for licensed users. To upgrade from an earlier version, download the latest version and install over your existing copy. There may be an upgrade fee for major product releases (i.e., 2.x - 3.x). Purchases within 60 days of a major product release are eligible for a free upgrade to the next major version.

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Nick Savoia The only thing stopping me from buying this software is that I don't see an option to pay with Pay Pal. Is there a way to do so?

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Alain Lesage I have been using it for 3 years now and can only voice my great satisfaction. I bought version Pro 3, then paid for the update to version 4 without reservation. Full price both times, if I remember well.
I searched the web for days looking for an alternate product (2 years ago, there was a fear that product support would be discontinued) but I never found anything as powerful and efficient.
It is absolutely worth its price, especially with such a discount.

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Mitchell Kastner I linked an author to an article and the author became a child of the article. I then linked the article to a note I had made from the article and the article with the author became a child of the note. Perfecto for doing scholarly research, no? No because when I exported the note to an RTF document, I was hoping that the article and the author would be MERGED into the note. How else can I use the note for my own writing if I cannot cite the note?

So UR has the semblance of a relational database but not all of its functionality because for sure you can merge fields from related tables into a query or subsequent table.

If I am in error about UR please set me straight because it's linking ability make purchasing it a no brainer for me.

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Mitchell Kastner I linked an author to an article and the author became a child of the article. I then linked the article to a note I had made from the article and the article with the author became a child of the note. Perfecto for doing scholarly research, no? No because when I exported the note to an RTF document, I was hoping that the article and the author would be MERGED into the note. How else can I use the note for my own writing if I cannot cite the note?

So UR has the semblance of a relational database but not all of its functionality because for sure you can merge fields from related tables into a query or subsequent table.

If I am in error about UR please set me straight because it's linking ability make purchasing it a no brainer for me.

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PC USER The workaround is to select the 'author' and all its children in one go, with the down arrows

File-Export, Text items to a rich text (RTF) document

Enter a name for your RTF file

Hit Finish

You will end up with a RTF file with all your children merged.

Mitchell, UR is worth every cent!

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Kyle A Send an email to sales

kinook.com regarding PayPal.

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Verlie Whi8tlock I don't see any mention of an initial, automatic "population" when the software is opened for the first time, as with certain photo-album-type programmes - does this mean that a huge 'drag-and-drop' task has to be undertaken if one wishes to collect old, important data already stored on one's machine?

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Kyle A Existing data isn't imported automatically, but there are several ways to capture files and documents in UR.
http://www.kinook.com/Ult...mation.htm

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Stephen Cohen When I first tried UltraRecall, it waved Web pages VERY Slowly. Has it improved significantly?

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Rod H I just tried for office use and found that if searches can be saved, export and printing settings cannot be. So, if I print a report, then a letter, etc., I must manually reset all appropriate settings each time, since they are not the same with different forms of outputs, and since the checkboxes are toggles, not different boxes for yes and for no, it's not even possible to make the letter / report / etc. settings with external macros since the outcome will be unpredictable, let alone the fact that most of these settings cannot be reached by alt-key combinations, but only by mouse. Do you plan to enhance these settings panels for export and especially printing, in view of the fact that for office use, this is an absolute necessity?

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Rod H I just tried for office use and found that if searches can be saved, export and printing settings cannot be. So, if I print a report, then a letter, etc., I must manually reset all appropriate settings each time, since they are not the same with different forms of outputs, and since the checkboxes are toggles, not different boxes for yes and for no, it's not even possible to make the letter / report / etc. settings with external macros since the outcome will be unpredictable, let alone the fact that most of these settings cannot be reached by alt-key combinations, but only by mouse. Do you plan to enhance these settings panels for export and especially printing, in view of the fact that for office use, this is an absolute necessity?

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Rod H I just tried for office use and found that if searches can be saved, export and printing settings cannot be. So, if I print a report, then a letter, etc., I must manually reset all appropriate settings each time, since they are not the same with different forms of outputs, and since the checkboxes are toggles, not different boxes for yes and for no, it's not even possible to make the letter / report / etc. settings with external macros since the outcome will be unpredictable, let alone the fact that most of these settings cannot be reached by alt-key combinations, but only by mouse. Do you plan to enhance these settings panels for export and especially printing, in view of the fact that for office use, this is an absolute necessity?

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Stephen Cohen Well, I installed the pro trial version and tried importing 3 web pages. The speed is now much better--comparable to MyBase. Two of the Web pages imported without problem. However, the third was formatted differently and had some text overwritten by other text, making that portion unreadable. MyBase imported all three pages without problem. Note: MyBase sometimes has problems importing a Web page...possibly more than does Surfulater, but IR apparently still needs work.

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Kyle A @Rod H: UR Pro has export sets for saving all export settings ("saved settings") for various types of exports. Print/preview remembers the last settings.

Kinook Software, Inc. - Jun 27 2011 at 9:14pm Copy Link

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Kyle A @Stephen Cohen: What is the URL of the problem page?

Kinook Software, Inc. - Jun 27 2011 at 9:17pm Copy Link

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Stephen Cohen "Problem page":
http://www.todo-backup.co...ftware.htm

Under "Key Features," "System Backup and Recovery" was overwritten. The other reformats are obvious.

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Kyle A That page does have some funky stylesheets. We'll add to our todo list to investigate and see if it can be supported.

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K X This is the first program which I hoped to see offered for a second day, with one of those notes: "Due to the overwhelming response .... has agreed to extend this deal for another day."

I downloaded the demo on Monday, the day of the sale, and tried it for an hour and had a hard time getting the hang of it, and it seemed to overlap a lot in function with several programs I already own (TreePad and Surfulater to name only two). Unfortunately, I was also influenced by the dismissive "review" on the Donation Coder "Notetaking Software Roundup #1" web page into not picking up UR.

After a good night's sleep, I tried the program some more and have grown to like it, and am especially impressed by the huge number of options for importing different file types and from a range of programs.

I hope Ultra Recall Pro is offered again soon at Bits at a discount. Maybe it can appear on the Every-Day Deals page? (How does that work?)

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R A I'm interested in Ultra Recall but am wondering how it compares to MyBase. Does anyone out there have experience with both apps? Which one would you recommend? I am looking for:
-- ability to capture web-pages or clippings from web pages.
-- annotate the clippings I take from web pages with my own notes and ideas
-- open multiple trees (multiple databases) so that I can keep different topics in a separate database
-- the application must be rock-stable so I cannot lose my data.

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PC USER Without a doubt I would say that UR is the better more mature product. However you can do all that you describe in your comment with 'both' products.

Generally, both capture web pages accurately.
And I cannot recall ever losing data with either product.

Note, there is no size limit with UR. Mybase 5 is limited to 2GB per database. (I have no idea if this will be the case for MB6)

Also, everything is contained in solely one file in UR i.e. the urd file;
whilst Mybase maintains two files, the database file and its corresponding index file.

The main issue with both products is "Support".
That is, their development is now VERY SLOW.

I came across MB because I was looking for an alternative when UR informed the public that support of UR was being 'scaled down'
Note I said, 'scaled down' not terminated.
UR is still be actively supported however very slowly
i.e.

4.1b was Released on December 3, 2009
4.1c was Released on March 22, 2010
4.2 was Released on August 10, 2010
4.2a was Released on February 27, 2011

Please see: http://www.kinook.com/For...y.php?f=27

However, MB hasn't fared any better, that is:
Mybase 6 has been promised since 2009!! -
(See Keith Anderson's comments, etc at

http://www.bitsdujour.com...ddons-pack

under 28 Older comments)

So that's the issue!! UR is excellent, there is nothing better. However the development of the product is slow.
MB 6 is nearing its final release according to
Wjj Software Vendor - Thursday at 6:31am (Aug 4)

So, if you want a tested product with a solid and proven track record, choose UR.
If you want something different, with the hope that because it is a newly developed product, it will be well supported;
maybe you should wait for MB6.

The choice is yours :-)

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K X I'm also interested in both programs and will pick up both when they are available again on Bits.

PC USER, I was wondering about your definition of Ultra Recall as "more mature", "with a solid and proven track record" and MyBase as "newly developed," since--from what I can tell from the developers' websites--that Ultra Recall came out initially in 2004, and MyBase has been around since 1998 and has a huge list of well-known companies and universities as customers.

Ultra Recall Pro does seem to have built-in support for importing from a greater number of other programs, which is rally appealing.

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SoftCollector I am new to this kind of software, but I fail to see how this is so useful? If you cannot organize yourself noone else will. And keeping everything in one database also means that all can be lost with the corruption of that same database. It is an inherent risk with all software that states it can manage "all in one".

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R A Its a bit of a toss-up between myBase and Ultra Recall it seems.
Im leaning towards UR mainly because it seems that support will be better because UR has a discussion forum.
Most important to me:

1) to be able to clip not only whole pages but selected sections of web-pages and annotate them - write my own comments and descriptions about them (so-far I've not figured out how to annotate web clippings with either application)

2) avoid any vendor-lock-in. I need to be able to get my data out. One day, I will be able to use the cross-platform open-source apps KeepNote or CherryTree if they ever develop far enough. I will return to Linux at some future point.

3) no problems with stability or data loss

4) an app that will not be abandoned by its developer and leave me and my huge database stranded.

Any other suggestions from experienced users of these two applications?

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Eddie Tex I trialed this software a few months ago and while I loved the feature set, I could not get unicode characters to display correctly. I could copy and paste them into the application, but when trying to enter them directly, the characters display as gibberish.

Are there any plans to address this limitation?

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Kyle A Where, how, and what text are you entering? You should be able to use the standard Windows methods to enter Unicode text. For example, http://en.wikipedia.org/w...code_input mentions typing the hex code for a character followed by Alt+X, and this worked in my tests in the UR text editor.

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Eddie Tex Hi Kyle, you and I exchanged emails on 9/11 about this situation. I'm using Win 7 (64-bit) and I am able to enter both Greek (Polytonic) and Biblical Hebrew into WordPad just fine. It didn't work with UR, but I will give the latest version a try.

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Eddie Tex I just tried it. The following sequence of letters (???) can be pasted into the edit window. However when changing my font to "Greek Polytonic" and trying to enter these characters, I get a series of "?" instead of the correct output.

If you have Win7, go into the "Region and Language" settings (just press the start button and type in 'language'). Then under "Keyboards and Languages" tab, click on "Change Keyboard," then add "Greek Polytonic" as one of the options.

The sequence of letters provided are output by pressing the keys: q and a (for ?), ' and a (for ?), and [ and a (for ?). This works correctly in WordPad but not the UR Editor.

On the plus side, I was able to enter Biblical Hebrew and Thai characters just fine. It is difficult to find a notes organizer that can support Greek Polytonic. Thus far, only Smereka TreeProjects has been able to do it, but I find their overall functionality somewhat limited in comparison to UR.

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Kyle A Another user found the Office version of the rich edit control to be a problem with Greek fonts. You might try different versions and see if some work better.
http://www.kinook.com/For...eadid=2853

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Eddie Tex Thanks I'll give that a try later today. BTW, can you clarify the differences between the standard and pro versions? I looked over your site but couldn't find where that was documented. Thx.

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Kyle A http://www.kinook.com/Ult...tions.html

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Northern sp. z o.o. is it working with polish font (like as ózzl...) ? - I tried, but UR didn't found text when i used this font.. When i searched without this, program work correctly.

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Yudha Yan Kusuma Hi Kyle,

UR development is very slow. Will Windows 8 and Office 2012 bring UR to version 5?

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tom drake ...is it working with polish font (like as ózzl...) ?...

It works well with central european encodings for me. Maybe try Tools Compact and repair, or create new database for testing purposes.

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Kyle A UR will be updated for Windows 8 and Office 2012.

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Northern sp. z o.o. tom - yes, You right - it's working :) = necessary add * to uncompleted words.
Kyle - it possible to UR can save photo from this page :
http://allegro.pl/frezark...04227.html ?
i think about photo of machine.
Do You have think about make in UR flash files saving ??

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Ennovy There is a mistake in the policy text: "Upgrades to future versions of the software will be free for 2 MONTHS."

From the homepage: "All minor releases (i.e., 2.0 - 2.1) are free for licensed users."

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Yudha Yan Kusuma There is no option for PayPal.

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Pavi Johnson Hi, I missed that last offer for Ultra Recall, but ended up buying it at full price anyway. When comparing to similar programs like MyInfo, Mybase, etc, UR came out on top.

Here's what I use it for: GTD (getting things done), email archives, webpage archive (with firefox addin), document management (PDF, etc), organizing research, notes, personal records, passwords, and work projects... basically all the info. I want to save and access.

One strength of UR over similar programs is that using forms and attributes, you can store any kind of information in tabular form, with fields for whatever you want. Hence, it is possible to make nodes that track your recipies, doctor's visits, book collection, journal, passwords, inventory, etc. It does take some time to learn and set these up to your personal needs, but it's worth it.

Integration with Outlook means that you can automatically archive your mail, as well as sync tasks. I have recently discovered that it can also be used as a writing environment since MS Word, Excel, PPT can all be viewed inside the UR interface as well. So you can write "Chapters" inside of the tree structure, with links to all your research and notes.

Another key feature is that all items, including document/PDF text, are indexed. Searching is Boolean and extremely robust, and searches can be saved.

As you can guess, I highly recommend UR. It is flexible and powerful, which requires a bit of learning and optimization to get the most out of.

Best, /Pavi

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Richard Paris Hi. Have downloaded the UR 4.2b Pro Trial version. The compare editions URL http://www.kinook.com/Ult...tions.html states that the Pro edition can import MindManager files. However I've not been able to find MindManager on the UR import options menu.

Could you please elaborate on the UR capability to import MindManager maps:-
which MM versions are supported (MM 2012?)
are the hierarchy of MM Topics represented in UR?

Thanks.

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tom drake to Pieter Lievers: upgrade to future version means Ultra Recall 5. Minor updates that'd be UltraRecall 4.5 for example, as current major version is 4

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Ennovy @Tom Drake: Thank you for your info

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Kyle A Regarding MindManager, when you import a .mmap file into UR, the text in it is searchable in UR, but UR doesn't parse the contents into separate items.

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Hilary Barrett If you need flexibility and control - if you want your software to adapt to your way of working rather than vice versa - UltraRecall is ideal. I've been using it daily for about five years. Strongly recommended!

(Only, Kinook, I really wouldn't mind paying extra for an upgrade that included a fully-featured, Gcal-integrated calendar.)

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Dexter Bell Just as with Hilary Barrett above I started using Ultra Recall over five years it quickly an essential part of my business and personal life. I have several UR databases, one for business (mISV), one for all the registration information for all the software I own and several others for disparate hobbies. For a hierarchical PIM it can't be beat.
I'm more than a fan I'm fanatical about it.

(Despite what it sounds like none of the above is hyperbole - UR is that important to me.)

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Eddie Tex According to your features list, it says I can import ListPro files in the Standard Edition, but I don't see that as an option when clicking on "Import." Am I missing something?

Jan 16 2012 at 9:26am Copy Link

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Kyle A http://www.kinook.com/For...php?t=1075

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Kyle A Regarding the update policy, all updates (major and minor) within 2 months of a purchase are free. Minor updates beyond 2 months are also free, but there is an upgrade fee for major updates more than 2 months after a purchase.

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Wm Duckermore Hi, Kyle - so, just to be clear, the policy statement that there are only two months of updates is just wrong? (You haven't weighed in.) Why don't you get BTJ t change it if so? Thx.

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Kyle A I guess technically it is correct. Maybe "at least two months" would be more accurate. I suspect that the text shown there is based on a set of options that isn't very flexible for different policies.

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Merle One Hi,

I bought it a while back through BdJ and used it daily since It's invaluable to store and retrieve easily heterogenous data (mails, text, documents, etc.). I never encountered any serious error or loss of data, contrarily to some competitors (well one at least), and the support has always been very helpful.

Thanks to BdJ for making me discover it.

The only minor drawbacks I see are :
- no Mac OS version (AFAIK)
- Learning curve is quite steep, due the flexibility of this software

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Stephen Cohen I use normally myBase to save Web pages I downloaded and installed UR to test its Web page capture capability in Firefox.
I used

http://www.todo-backup.co...ftware.htm

as the test page.

myBase captured the page with no discernible errors. UR captured the page, but part of the page was garbled. I used GoBack to "uninstall" UR.

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Stephen Cohen I use normally myBase to save Web pages I downloaded and installed UR to test its Web page capture capability in Firefox.
I used

http://www.todo-backup.co...ftware.htm

as the test page.

myBase captured the page with no discernible errors. UR captured the page, but part of the page was garbled. I used GoBack to "uninstall" UR.

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Stephen Cohen I use normally myBase to save Web pages I downloaded and installed UR to test its Web page capture capability in Firefox.
I used

http://www.todo-backup.co...ftware.htm

as the test page.

myBase captured the page with no discernible errors. UR captured the page, but part of the page was garbled. I used GoBack to "uninstall" UR.

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Brian De Bragança I LOVE this program! It beats anything else out there including Micro$oft's own OneNote, and even CircusPonies Notebook for Mac (which takes some beating).

If you are thinking about purchasing this program - at the discount price it's a steal - you won't be disappointed if you do.

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Brad Really nice application use it everyday to archive articles, facts, links to key information. It really became an indispensable tool in my software application toolbox. Easy to retrieve the data. You'll not be disappointed with the software.

Many of us need an easy straightforward way to catalog, categorize, and retrieve, crucial tidbits of online information. I used it to catalog and organize the myriad of informational resources I was seeking when I was diagnosed with Non-Hodgkin s Lymphoma. This tool made it much easier to get my head corralled around the data I was gathering.

It helped me very quickly, get to what I was looking for. It was a great assistance in facilitating my own education for Lymphoma. It really helped me to put together the right questions for the Doctor.

Choosing the right treatment is critical to a successful outcome. I am in complete remission currently so if you need a good way to keep track of the plethora of information that we get hit with everyday. This is a perfect tool.

Cheers, Brad

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Michael R. Is it possible to embed images into text-nodes?

Are there big improvements available or still planned in the just arrived v5, which a v4-user should keep in mind, if he/she thinks about upgrading to v5?

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Kyle A http://www.kinook.com/For...php?t=5011

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Bill Blackledge Will there be a discount on the Pro version?

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Bill Blackledge Doh!
"Please note: today's discount can be applied to either the Standard or Professional versions of Ultra Recall!"

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Robert Edwards So I can get the Pro version for 61% off = $39. Is that right

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Preston Mitchell Hello Kyle,

Congratulations on the release of UR v5.

I have some questions.

I have UR v4 Pro. Is there an upgrade price? Or maybe you might add the PRO version for a discount on Bits?

I noted that a new feature in v5 is "Send IE9 user-agent string instead of IE7". Does that mean UR v5 won't work with IE8? Remember that XP users are trapped with IE8 (can't upgrade to IE9).

That's it. Please reply.

Thank you,
Preston

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Kyle A The upgrade price is not discounted, but you can purchase a full license for less than the regular upgrade price on BDJ instead.

UR works with IE8. It doesn't use IE itself to capture a web page, but sends the IE9 user-agent when capturing.

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Colin McAllister Hi.
Where are the tags used stored?

Are they written to the database only, or do they go into the keywords properties of (say) MS Word or PowerPoint? Thanks.

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sunnyAThome i'd like to buy a pro license. it's actually cheaper than an upgrade. but for no reason authorize.net doesn't accept my master card . "transaction declined" is all i get. i verified all the details more than once. but no luck :(
regards
thomas

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Bill Blackledge I have just purchased 3 Pro licences using this offer. Two as upgrades for my existing V4 licences, one for a new staff member.

Kyle, I am not aware, as a registered Ultrarecall user, that any notification has been sent out regarding this BDJ offer. As it effectively knocks 20% off the upgrade price, you should really notify your existing user base so they can take advantage. And consider extending it for another day, for the same reason!

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Max Frenkel Cn InfoSelect datafiles (*.wd2) be imported into Ultra Recall?

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Paulo Correia I just bought a licence. Waiting for the key....

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Bernhard Looking into the new featues for v5 reveals that they are very sparse (at least) and if v4 wouldn't continue to run under Windows 8 that would be very poor. So, I will have to think twice to pay again for an update.

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Tomas Barth Can I put the database on a NAS and install the software on several computers (I´m the only user), with 1 license? Of course I only use the software from 1 computer at a time.

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Kyle A @Colin McAllister: They are stored in the database only.

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Bill Blackledge Tomas, ideally you need an answer from Kyle, but:
- Databases can be stored on NAS
- UR is licensed per User, not per PC, so it seems reasonable to install on a couple of PCs and access the NAS data, provided you are the only person doing so.

Bernhard, I agree that the V5 update looked pretty sparse, not particualrly a major version update. However at these prices, with this product, I guess it is worth going for.

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Kyle A @Thomas Leidinger: A "Transaction has been Declined" error means that your transaction was declined by the card issuing bank (the transaction will not be charged). A general decline can occur for many reasons, such as insufficient funds, the expiration date is wrong, card number is incorrect, etc. Unfortunately the card issuing bank does not give us any information regarding the reason for the decline, so you will have to contact the credit card company for any details. So far, this problem has always been rectified when the customer contacted the card issuing bank to resolve the problem. If contacting them doesn't help, contact us at @support@kinook.com and we'll discuss other means of payment. Thanks.

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Kyle A @Max Frenkel: Yes: http://www.kinook.com/For...php?t=1077

Kinook Software, Inc. - Jul 11 2012 at 8:40am Copy Link

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Kyle A @Paulo Correia: Sent a few minutes ago.

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Kyle A @Tomas Barth: Yes:
http://www.kinook.com/Ult...abases.htm
http://www.kinook.com/Ult...eement.htm

Kinook Software, Inc. - Jul 11 2012 at 8:43am Copy Link

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Kyle A http://www.kinook.com/Dow...Recall.pdf

Kinook Software, Inc. - Jul 11 2012 at 10:01am Copy Link

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William Tattors Any plans on putting db on cloud for portability? How far in future? A limiting factor for myself. I cobble various cloud based pim's but would like to bale them together...

Jul 11 2012 at 10:11am Copy Link

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Preston Mitchell Kyle,

Thank you for answering my previous questions. I just purchased v5 Pro from here. (How extraordinary that the Bits price is less expensive than the regular upgrade price.)

Question please.

I am sure that v5 databases are backward compatible with v4 databases, yes? That is, a database generated in v5 can be opened in v4, right? (I previously persuaded a few clients to buy v4...and now I transfer project & research materials to them via a UR database file. That's why I need to be certain.)

Again, congratulations on improving what is the world's best 'tree' database software.

Preston

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Alberto - Hi Kyle, can you please explain what are the main differences between Ultra Recall and Swift To-Do List?

Thank you.

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Kyle A @William Tattors: No plans for that at this time.

Kinook Software, Inc. - Jul 11 2012 at 10:28am Copy Link

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Kyle A @Preston Mitchell: Yes, v5 databases are backward compatible with UR v4.

Kinook Software, Inc. - Jul 11 2012 at 10:29am Copy Link

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Kyle A @Alberto: I'm not very familiar with that product and am not sure what the main differences are.

Kinook Software, Inc. - Jul 11 2012 at 10:30am Copy Link

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Amit Does it have any skins, or the only interface looks are as in here - http://www.kinook.com/Ult...recall.htm

Skins or looks really make a software go.

Jul 11 2012 at 11:31am Copy Link

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Kyle A There are several paint themes to choose from at Tools | Customize | Options.

Kinook Software, Inc. - Jul 11 2012 at 11:39am Copy Link

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Preston Mitchell FYI to ALL: Ultra Recall is the World's Best Internet Research Tool!

THE HIDDEN BEAUTY Of UR is that it can serve as an extremely effective tool for web research.

UR includes the option of installing a toolbar on IE that captures and sends full web pages (or just the link) to the UR database of your choice.

When I research a subject, I create a database for that subject...and then simply send all relevant web pages to that database. Then UR allows me to easily create folders and thus organize my research (web pages) into sub-categories. UR makes saving and organizing web research so very fast and simple.

Prior to UR, I used MetaProducts Inquiry Pro, which is pretty good too, but UR's ease of creating unique databases for subjects blows away Inquiry Pro.

FOR INTERNET RESEARCHERS, UR Pro is the best $39 you will ever spend. (Also, UR is the best software for file management, which is its main purpose. So, the ability to use UR as a research tool is pure gravy.)

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David Jacobs Does the licence allow me to install on both my laptop at work and my home PC and is there a way to keep them in sync?

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Kyle A Yes, one license used by a single user can be installed on multiple PCs.
http://www.kinook.com/Ult...eement.htm

You would need to copy your .urd file(s) between the machines to keep in sync.

Kinook Software, Inc. - Jul 11 2012 at 6:59pm Copy Link

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Gary Kriss Had the same problem with a credit card. Checked and no problem with the card itself. There's some flaw with the processor. Shame. I would have loved to get the program. Instead will explore alternatives.

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Paulo Correia it doesn't search inside pdf files, right?
will it search in future versions?

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Preston Mitchell Kyle -- Does AV software effectively scan UR databases?

I have a virus infected UR database that contains critical data. I am not sure what to do.

I ran several different AV software scans on that database. Some infected files were identified...which I eliminated after running UR in a VM (to contain the virus). But I wonder if I can trust that database to be safe now.

MY QUESTION IS:

Can UR databases be effectively scanned for infected files?
Or does the database 'container' block, so to speak, a thorough AV scan?

Your answer will be deeply appreciated.

Thanks,
Preston

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Kyle A Yes, UR is able to capture and search on text from most PDF files.

I would think that scanners wouldn't scan infected files stored in a .urd file (maybe a false positive?), but I'm not sure.

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Toni McConnel OOOOPS! I meant to purchase UR yesterday but got busy and forgot. Any chance I can still get this deal?

Jul 12 2012 at 5:35am Copy Link

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Stephen Kreyling Interested in the pro version if its still available with discount.

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Max Frenkel Can UltraRecall also import data from InfoSelect?

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Kyle A http://www.kinook.com/For...php?t=1077

Kinook Software, Inc. - Jan 9 2013 at 5:05am Copy Link

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Kyle A That is incorrect--UR does run on Windows 8.

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Paul _ Do you plan to implement the following features in 2013? I would need columns in the Data Explorer pane.
- Keywords pane / tagging improvements
- Add columns to Data Explorer pane
- Custom sorting in tree

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Kyle A No guarantees, but that is the plan.

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i am quant I'm ready to buy v5, if any new dev is done, my vote goes to keywords pane / tagging improvements. Keep up great work, the Ultra Recall is still the best PIM by far! Thanks

Jan 10 2013 at 6:19am Copy Link

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Techtoysavvy I bought v4 pro here earlier.
Does the discount apply to the upgrade?
(I assume not :)

So is buying a new copy here again cheaper than upgrading?

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Stephen Kreyling Will version 6 be released in 2013?

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Fraser Gorrie I have UltraRecall 4.2 Pro (purchased direct from Kinook). Can the 61% discount be applied to the $50 upgrade offered from Kinook's site?

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Kyle A The discount does not apply to an upgrade, and buying a new license is cheaper than upgrading.

Any updates this year will be to v5.

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Louis Nemecek What are the features of the professional edition

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Kyle A http://www.kinook.com/Ult...tions.html

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Brian H For Kinook Software- your product looks very good! But why such an unfriendly upgrade policy?: "Upgrades to future versions of the software will be free for 2 months. For versions after that, upgrades will require additional payment, which will not be discounted." Free upgrades are typically offered for a period of 1 year after purchase, or until the next major new release (eg. v. 2.0 - v. 2.9). And then to not offer current users *any* discounts on future versions of the program ... this just seems "customer-unfriendly" to me (speaking as a software consumer). Your product looks so good- I am hoping that you will keep an open mind an perhaps re-think these rather stringent upgrade policies for future offerings. There is a saying in retail sales that it is far easier to keep CURRENT customers (by presumably keeping them happy) than it is to recruit and find NEW customers. Thanks. -Brian

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i am quant @Brian H "And then to not offer current users *any* discounts on future versions of the program ..." - the discount is 50%! That's the cost of upgrade compared to full price.

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Peter C1 According to "The Fine Print" tab: Upgrades to future versions of the software will be free for 2 months. For versions after that, upgrades will require additional payment, which will not be discounted.

Q. Is the update / upgrade policy as stated above correct?

You must either think that Your software is either BL**DY FANTASTiC & UNiQUE, or, Your company really doesn't care that much about retaining a "locked in" customer base to "Ultra-Recall 2".

Q2. What are the chances that You'd actually release any updates during the 2 month FREE Updates period?

If, as You said in a reply above [Thursday at 4:18pm], it is CHEAPER TO BUY NEW than to Buy an Upgrade, I can only assume that a good proportion of UR2 customer look for alternatives elsewhere after the free update period has expired.

I for one am very intrigued and will attempt to trial the software before the promotion period expires to see what is so special to warrant such an unreasonable update/upgrade policy.

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Jan-Christoph Ihrens Just look at the website (http://www.kinook.com/order.html) - there *are* discounted upgrade prices (50% as "i am quant" stated). As to the free upgrades: I'm quite sure that this refers to major versions. Minor versions are free until the next major version (and are normally called updates, not upgrades). At least I could get all updates for my UR Pro 4 (that I purchased via BDJ, too) for free.

So I guess the people from Kinook were just a little distracted when entering the policy here. ;) And if I'm wrong and this is a specialty of the "BDJ license" for UR: Just wait for the next promotion here to purchase the upgrade to version 6.

I'm now using this offer to "upgrade" to version 5, thanks for the promotion! :)

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Kyle A Major releases are always 50% off the regular price for owners of prior versions.

We didn't write "...upgrades will require additional payment, which will not be discounted," but what I think it means is that the the BDJ offer does not apply to upgrades.

Major upgrades are every 2 to 3 years, so less than $25 per year to stay on the current release. Or you can wait for a BDJ discount and purchase that instead of an upgrade to save $5 a year more.

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Brenda Gann I have Pro 4.2b.. what is the version offered here? If it is a newer version, what are the changes?

I have a lot of problems trying to save webpages with Chrome. For example, if I try to save someone's FB page it sometimes saves and sometimes does not. If I save a page with a ' (apostrophe) in the title of the item, it screws up the save (but is fine if I delete the apostrophe) Will an update fix these problems?

Thanks

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Danny This software has no interface capabilities multilanguages, is that correct?

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Mark Johnson I have a license for version 4.x but didn't upgrade to 5.x, and I no longer use the product. There are many things about UR that are ahead of some of the competition (forms, vars, templates for example). Unfortunately there are also many things that are behind the competition (the editor/viewer, for example). If you are likely to use the features that UR has but the competition doesn't, then UR is a great choice for you.
The reason I didn't upgrade, and no longer use the product - the updates to the product are few and far between. If a serious bug is found then it is addressed rapidly, but don't expect customer requests for needed feature updates to be addressed.

I would say try the product, and if you can make use of the features it has that other products don't, then it's an instant buy for you. If you try UR and find that it is missing features you would use, don't expect those features to be added.

I'd also recommend taking a look through the customer forum at kinook.com/forum . Note that there is one customer there that tends to dominate threads with messages that drone on and make no sense, but if you ignore his posts the forums are a great place to get a lot of info about UR, how to use it, and how the existing customer base feels about the product.

In answer to questions asked repeatedly here: If you buy a major version of UR (current version is 5.x) then you'll get free updates until 6.x is released. Don't expect 6.x for a year or two, and don't expect much difference between 5.x and 6.x. Then when 6.x is released, there will be a discount for the upgrade (not just for two months). Of course, the upgrade policy could change, but this is how it has been.

By no means do I mean to slam UR. It is a great product, and if the current version meets your needs without any expectation of updates to it, then I recommend the purchase.

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Kyle A v5: http://www.kinook.com/For...php?t=5012

Regarding Chrome problems, see http://www.kinook.com/For...php?t=3038

Regarding languages, see http://www.kinook.com/For...php?t=3873

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Lito Question about the encryption. In your manual it says you can only encrypt per info database. So does that mean if I want mostly everything unencrypted except for a few certain things, does that password info database show up on the data explorer pane?
For Example:
My Data
-Notes
--Note1
--Note2
-Websites
--Web1
-Passwords -- encrypted
-Journal -- encrypted

Or are the encrypted info in the example above missing from the list and I have to load a new info database manually with a File-Open to get access to it?

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Mark Johnson I should have included this info above:

Version 5.0 was released in mid-2012.
See the link from Kylie Alons above for the features that were updated when moving from version 4.x to 5.

Version 4.2 was released in mid-2010.
http://www.kinook.com/For...php?t=4609
It was the last feature upgrade before version 5.0. There were a couple of hot bug fix releases between 4.2 and 5.x, but no new features.

Versions 4.1 and 4.0 were released in 2009.
Updates included:
http://www.kinook.com/For...php?t=4223
http://www.kinook.com/For...php?t=4091

The roadmap for future UR development is here:
http://www.kinook.com/For...eadid=3204
Before 5.x was released in 2012, the last update to the roadmap was in 2009. I do not believe the 2012 release included any items that were on the roadmap at that time.

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Kyle A If a database is encrypted, it cannot be opened until the password has been provided. After the password is entered, the entire database can be viewed/edited.

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Mark Johnson @Lito - UR does not support encryption at any level other than the entire database.
However, some users have worked around that limitation by creating an InfoItem that actually links to an external, encrypted database. Then you can include a templated child item that is actually an entire encrypted external database.
See:
http://www.kinook.com/For...encryption

This is an example of where UR is advanced compared to much of its competition. However, it is also an example of how complex it can be to do many of those advanced features, and how much of a learning curve there is to do them.

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Michael F @Mark: what program do you currently use as it seems you already switched from UR to an alternative, right?

Thanks
Michael

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bvssunnydale (1) Under "fine print" it says that UPGRADES ARE FREE ONLY FOR TWO MONTHS. That's extremely stingy of the manufacturer and I wouldn't seriously consider it unless it was the standard minimum of a year's worth of updates (many products offer free until next full iteration/version, some free for life). I have ver 4.1 which I've never used but thought I'd try eventually; (2) Is there a URL where I could compare the latest ver 4.x with the current 5x? and (3) I have and very much like/use askSam pro. Does UltraRecall import askSam as a single document per UR page (I'm just wondering about how it would divide up the 21K+ docs in my 275MB askSam file. Thanks very much.

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Kyle A v5: http://www.kinook.com/For...php?t=5011

AskSam import: http://www.kinook.com/For...php?t=1078

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Mark Johnson @Michael F - I currently use RightNote Pro (http://bauerapps.com/). My use of this type of program is mostly to keep track of business rules, plans, how software works, and prioritization of (and instructions/notes for) work items. I also use it at home to keep track of hobby projects, plans, studies, etc.

It really depends on what you would use the software for. If you need the templating and more advanced features that are in UR, then it is the best choice. RightNote doesn't offer a lot of those things, and doesn't do web clipping / webpage archive nearly as well as UR and some others. But RightNote does have spreadsheet notes, much better RTF formatting, source code notes, EverNote integration, multiple trees in one database (not just hoisting), and a slew of other features that people have been requesting in UR for years. Plus you can email the author about a feature you see that's lacking, and he'll respond right away and also likely add the feature in an update faster than you'd expect.

If UR did a little more "Let us take a look at what the competition does better, and incorporate those things into UR" then I'd be back on the UR bandwagon instantly. It is a great product; it really just depends on how you use this type of software what is the right choice for you.

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Joe M Does it import Word Perfect files? I did not see it mentioned on your website. I installed the trial version and it does not seem to.

It does not support scanners either. I think I will pass on this program.

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Kyle A You can import WordPerfect files, but they will not be parsed for text.

Kinook Software, Inc. - Jan 12 2013 at 12:18pm Copy Link

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JesusChampion Hi, why no payment option for Paypal users? :( God bless u, bye.

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Techtoysavvy OK, I upgraded to v5. I hope start using the software again. This is a general show of support for the developer.

Out of politeness, I have waited till expiry to post the next comment.

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Techtoysavvy I do not understand the benefits of upgrading from v4.2 to v5. I read the new features via the link posted to the forum post. The main benefit is support for Windows 8 and Server 2012. Real support for this OS would be wonderful but I find it hard to believe your claim is more than technically true.

I suspect that you do NOT support Windows 8 metro browser. If you do then my apologies. You are very clever and deserve this upgrade. Microsoft has locked the Metro browser in RTM. Stuff worked in the preview that no longer works in the release.

I do believe that you support Windows 8 desktop mode. I also suspect that v4 works in Windows desktop unless you needed additional support for IE10. In that case, you really support IE10 and I would need v5 on Win 7 if I upgrade to IE10.

The other improvements seem minor and you have listed them after key OS support that leave me wondering and creates mistrust.

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Nico Westerdale Great News! Kinook Software, Inc. has agreed to extend this deal for another day - Enjoy!

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Danny Hello, But 1 payment option and that is with credit card only?? No other option as PayPal and/or IDeal??

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Vikram Sujanani Purchased UR Pro after reading praises here and elsewhere - just tried web capture from StackOverflow --- disappointed that capture is slow, and no way compares to what is done by EverNote or RightNote.

I did not expect this.

Any possibility that I doing it incorrectly?
Is there any fix?

Has anyone tried this?

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Danny Then there not by the Deal for me! Because I have no credit card, is there not also, wan I hate credit card!

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bvssunnydale I downloaded ver 5 to test drive it and it overwrote my ver 4 installation without asking for confirmation. How do I get ver 4 back?

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Kyle A Vikram Sujanani: What was the URL, which version of Windows and which browser and version? How are you importing?
http://www.kinook.com/For...php?t=3038

bvssunnydale: Uninstall and download+install v4 from http://www.kinook.com/Dow...Pro42b.exe

Kinook Software, Inc. - Jan 13 2013 at 7:41am Copy Link

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Mark Johnson @Vikram - slow web capture has been discussed several times in the Ultra Recall forums. I always had slow web captures in Ultra Recall compared to other programs.

Take a look at these threads for some more info:
http://www.kinook.com/For...chid=84720
http://www.kinook.com/For...eadid=2853

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Vikram Sujanani I was trying this page:
http://stackoverflow.com/...rning-path

- Am on Windows Vista Service pack 1
- was using UR internal browser
- selected text and right click
- IE version is 7.0.6001.18000

Will also read the urls you provided for this issue

Surprisingly when I capture from IE - the capture is somewhat better and more predictable.

Tried Firefox - from Firefox the capture is blazing fast.
However from Firefox the page title is not set on the item in UR.

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H. H. Hallo,
when testing verson 5 portable the following questions occured:

1. does ultra recall pro support ms office 2010 files (docx,xlsx,..)?
RightNote seems to handle them without any problem and can show excel files as spreadsheets (it didn´t work with my files)

2. does ultra recall pro support open document files?

If ultrarecall does not handle xlsx, docx, open document files properly at the moment - will this be improved within version 5 in the near future?

3. may there be an export to pdf (not pdf as printer, but as really pdf file with ability to show/click embedded links avilable next ime?

4. I also think that UR is very slow when capturing websites (windows 7 home premium, 64bit, 8GB Ram)
is there any improvement possible?

I think UR has many intersting features - and if it would have solved the above problems, I´d prefer it to RightNote.
But at the moment RightNote seems to have a bietter support of various file formats (import, export) and is much faster on savint websites or parts of websites

with kind regards
H.H:

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Harald Vogel Kyle Alons: Is UR still in development and do you plan to release a new version with some of the features mentioned in the roadmap in the near future? Also on my system UR 4.2b is running fine on Windows 8 so far for over a month. Can you tell whats better in 5.0 regarding Windows 8 or what problems are to expect when running 4.2b with Windows 8? Thanks.

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Kyle A Vikram Sujanani: In my tests, that page takes about 6 seconds to import from the UR internal browser. Selecting part of the page and importing from Firefox could be faster, since it just uses the content it puts on the clipboard, but Firefox doesn't include the page title in the content.

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Kyle A UR does support Office 2010 file format (.docx, .xlsx, etc.).

UR does not support OpenOffice (.odt) format.

UR does not support PDF export (except for imported PDF files).

What are some of the URLs that import slowly, and how slow?

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Kyle A We do intend to implement features on the road map in the future.

In our testing, the tree is disabled when running UR v4 on Windows 8.

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Birdy Bird I look at verius posts in UR forum. Lots of objections about latest edition ignoring roadmap?

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Jon User Kyle, I spent several hours today running an evaluation of this software for use as a repository of investment due-diligence information for my research and recordkeeping. So far so good - It appears you have done a very comprehensive job and the detailed templating makes this far more functional than my prior method which was much more manual, i.e. combining links to folders, docs, spreadheets & web pages in MS One-Note pages. The eval went so well I went for the Pro version. I hope to see ongoing development of this product so it remains compatible with more and more file formats as technology marches forward.

A high-five to a fellow Coloradoan!

PS, I concur with the poster above about PayPal. It definitely provides more comfort to the average consumer to buy that way rather than spreading their credit card infor all over the internet.

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Michael F [Kyle Alons] "In our testing, the tree is disabled when running UR v4 on Windows 8."

LOL, the same happened at the time Windows 7 was released and I was forced to upgrade to UR v4. It seems that this "bug" is built-in to force current users to upgrade UR when switching to a newer Windows version.

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Kyle A That does seem to be the case for the tree component used in UR, but it's not something that we built in.

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Kelly Hamblin Did Ultra Recall always have both Standard and Professional versions? I was wondering because I have an earlier version installed on my computer and I can't tell what version it is.

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Kyle A Since v3. It looks like you have UR v3 Standard edition. Help | About | Install Info would show 'Ultra Recall 3.x' rather than 'Ultra Recall Professional 3.x'.

Kinook Software, Inc. - Oct 25 2013 at 9:48am Copy Link

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MojoMan Are there any planned updates for UR 3 Pro (I have owned it for the past couple of years) ?

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Kyle A Updates to v3? No -- v3 hasn't been updated since v4.0 was released. v5.1 is the current release.

Kinook Software, Inc. - Oct 25 2013 at 10:05am Copy Link

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MojoMan My bad Kyle.

I have UR Pro v5.0

I just wondered if there is anything new planned for UR Pro.

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Kyle A Enhanced calendar pane
Keywords pane / tagging improvements
Add columns to Data Explorer pane
Custom sorting in tree

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Kelly Hamblin I'm trying to reply to Kyle Alons.

I'm running ver 3.5e so that's the standard. Thanks for answering. I'll be checking your website to find out what's new and improved.

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Kyle A http://www.kinook.com/For...forumid=27

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Mariusz Lewandowski UR is my ultimate organizer. I purchased the Pro version it in April and since then it does exactly what I need and even more. No need to try other solutions despite a bit steep learning curve - the positive is that there are still a lot of tricks to discover.
Kyle, is this sale a praeludium to the next major version that will hit the market within 2 mths of free upgrades? (I know, you won't tell us...)

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Kyle A All updates in the next year or more will be in v5.x (free).

Kinook Software, Inc. - Oct 26 2013 at 5:28am Copy Link

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Loco78 * Does the program have a Polish languages ??? Please for answear.

Oct 26 2013 at 12:40pm Copy Link

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Kyle A Not built-in, but much of the interface can be customized for different languages.
http://www.kinook.com/For...php?t=3873

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Loco78 * Thanks.

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Northern sp. z o.o. Can I use both version UR (standard or pro) to use the same UR file ??? I want buy one pro and three standard license to our company.

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Kyle A Yes, the same file can be opened by both editions (as long as the database isn't encrypted or shared on a network), but some features aren't available in the Standard edition.
http://www.kinook.com/Ult...tions.html

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peter schleifer In answering a roadmap question above, you said:

Enhanced calendar pane
Keywords pane / tagging improvements
Add columns to Data Explorer pane
Custom sorting in tree

Now this "Custom sorting in tree" intrigues me vary much (whilst for others, tagging perhaps is more important): What do you mean about it? By which attributes such a tree would be sortable, and would it sort any entry in the tree, regardless of its current indentation level? And I suppose (since if not, such "sorting" would not be of interest) that you can switch forth and back between "sorted view" and "tree view" then, or at least automatically reconstitute the previous tree view, after such sorting?

I try to put my question in other words:

By what attributes?

You do NOT mean sorting just the siblings under one parent item, but you speak of sorting all let's say 200 children, of ANY indentation level, of a given parent item?

And afterwards/alternatively, the tree, as it was before sorting, is not destroyed by this but is there, too?

When can we expect this feature? Within 12 months, or would this be too optimistic?

I'm asking since development of Ultra Recall seems to have been a little bit on the slow side, lately, but not-destructive sorting of the whole tree (or any part of it) would be a tremendously useful feature - if it was really available, that is.

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Mariusz Lewandowski @peter schleifer:
"not-destructive sorting of the whole tree (or any part of it) would be a tremendously useful feature"

It is already there: in the Data Explorer pane expand the parent item with child items to be sorted, select any child item in the expanded list, right-click, select "Sort Siblings". The exanded items are sorted whilst the whole tree stays intact. To unselect "Sort Siblings" option: Shift+Ctrl+Up/Down arrow to move any item up/down.
HTH

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Brian De Bragança I can thoroughly recommend this software to anyone considering buying it. It is the best P.I.M., Notes and Projects Organiser, Scrapbook and similar functions in its class and is better than One Note, Evernote and similar offerings by a long way. Its integration into Internet Explorer and Firefox and the Windows Shell works flawlessly and is a big plus.
If it has a flaw it is that it is not updated very often but it is already so full-featured (especially the Pro version) and easy-to-learn that you'll be satisfied with it straight away.
I have no connection with Kinook (the developers) and so this recommendation is completely voluntary.

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Jon Spain Can one install on own PC and own laptop, using only one at a time, please?

Jon

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Michael R. Wehre can I download the latest version of a formerly bought version v4 of UltraRecall Pro?

Thank you...

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Kyle A @peter: With this enhancement, any node of the tree could be sorted on any attribute in the database.

@jon: Yes.
http://kinook.com/UltraRe...eement.htm

@michael: http://www.kinook.com/Dow...Pro42b.exe

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Loco78 * I am considering buying but I have (All My Notes Organizer and Dayli To Do List) so I do not know if such a purchase would make sense because these programs have similar functions. Does anyone know what speaks for purchase?

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James Crowley Jr Are there any plans for any kind of mobile version or interface in the future?

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Kyle A No plans for that currently.

Kinook Software, Inc. - Oct 28 2013 at 6:08am Copy Link

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Drew Vogel I am a registered user of a previous Professional version. What are my options for this new Professional version? Thanks!

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Kyle A Purchasing a Pro license on BDJ today ($39) is less than the regular upgrade price ($50), so it's a good opportunity to upgrade for less.

Kinook Software, Inc. - Oct 28 2013 at 8:02am Copy Link

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Drew Vogel Thanks, Kyle! I just purchased my Pro upgrade!

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Hawkeye I have to say this is one of the best programs of it's kind. You can easily track track a lot of information easily, including websites. After you have used it for awhile, you wonder how you ever got a long without it.

You can't beat the price. I got the Pro version, the last time it was offered here.

Download the trial and try it. You won't be disappointed.

I am one happy customer, if you haven't already noticed.

Later,

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VLM I feel a bit confused by this:

James Crowley Jr wrote: "Are there any plans for any kind of mobile version or interface in the future?"

Kyle Alons responded: "No plans for that currently."

But on the version comparison page http://www.kinook.com/Ult...tions.html, under "Core Features", the last item "Portable (run from USB drive)" is listed as a distinction between standard and pro. Am I misunderstanding something, or is this an error on the website, or ...?

Thanks!

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Kyle A A mobile version would be one that runs on a mobile device such as iPad, iPhone, Android tablet, etc.

Kinook Software, Inc. - Oct 28 2013 at 11:06am Copy Link

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Faisal Humayun Is it possible to enable javascript within the ultrarecall browser?

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Kyle A Javascript is not disabled in the UR internal browser (for instance, if I navigate to http://javatester.org/javascript.html it shows "JavaScript IS WORKING in your web browser"). You can control whether scripts are downloaded when importing a web page into UR at 'Tools | Options | Import (More) | Download scripts'.

Kinook Software, Inc. - Oct 28 2013 at 1:00pm Copy Link

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Richard Blake From http://www.kinook.com/Ult...eement.htm:
Each license of the SOFTWARE PRODUCT may either be used by a single person who uses the SOFTWARE PRODUCT personally on one or more computers, or installed on a single computer used non-simultaneously by multiple people, but not both.
I love it when EULAs say this.

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Faisal Humayun Kyle -
This is what I see http://snap.ashampoo.com/P5CibbDA using the UR browser (i've enabled the scripts downloading feature per your instructions).

For my usecase, I'm very interested in syncing my instapaper, read it later, go-pocket, evernote content into UR. Having this feature makes this a deal maker or breaker for me.

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Kyle A Is the result different for regular Internet Explorer? Which version+SP of Windows and IE are you running? I don't know of any way to disable Javascript for the embedded browser but not IE proper.
http://www.enable-javascript.com/#ie

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Faisal Humayun Oh I see. UR is hooked into IE. I had a security solution which disabled that in IE (since I'm a Firefox/Chrome user). Re-enabling it got it working. Thanks. I'm testing to see if I can capture all the content now. If this works as I hope it does, you have a customer. Thank you.

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bvssunnydale Hi, I have ver 4 (purchased 1/16/12) but never have really used it (I call it an "aspirational" purchase). Could you provide a link showing the changes from ver 4 to the whatever the most recent version is, 5 I think). Thanks.

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VLM Kyle Alons - Thanks for this response: "A mobile version would be one that runs on a mobile device such as iPad, iPhone, Android tablet, etc." So the distinction is between mobile and portable, that's clear ... now. :):)

Now another question ... From above, Is UR going to force me into Internet Explorer at times? I would not want that to happen ... ever.

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Kyle A http://www.kinook.com/Ult...rsion5.htm

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Kyle A UR uses an embedded instance of Internet Explorer for displaying web pages within UR. That is the only option if you want to view web pages within UR (you don't have to though--clear out 'Tools | Options | Browser | File extensions to display in internal browser view' and don't use the address bar for browsing in UR).

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VLM Kyle, would it be fair to say that UR pushes in the direction of a document management tool? Or is that an overstatement or misstatement, perhaps?

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VLM My motivation for that last question about document management is this: I find this product category (note software through PIMs) confusing ... I'm not sure how to distinguish products for selection. So I'm fishing for a criterion that might clearly distinguish UR from the rest (of which I am aware), except perhaps for My Info or myBase. For some reason, in this product category, downloading trials doesn't seem to be sufficient. Perhaps this is because there is a significant learning curve for all the "good" products in this category. This is understandable, just makes choosing a bit difficult. :)

Have others experienced anything like I describe here?

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VLM Okay, that seems a reasonable set of options, thanks.

One more question (famous last words :) ... I always prefer to keep my user data on a drive other than my system drive, and I imagine others do, as well. Can a user specify where UR keeps its database(s)?

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Kyle A Yes, UR can be used a document management tool. It's pretty flexible, and there is quite a bit to evaluate. These might give you an idea of what it can do:
http://kinook.com/UltraRecall/demos.html
http://kinook.com/UltraRe...tions.html
http://kinook.com/UltraRe...recall.htm

UR databases (.urd extension) can be created and stored on any writeable drive on your system. Use File | New on the menu and browse/enter the location to create the file.

Kinook Software, Inc. - Oct 28 2013 at 8:40pm Copy Link

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H. H. Hallo,
some questions

1. is there a limitation of the database-size - where the program begins to become too slow, or instable? - what´s the recommended limitation of database size?

2. is there a synchronization feature for synchronizing between e.g. a Ultra recall Installation on pc or Notebook or usb-stick?

2. is there a possibility to set a page layout when using the note editor?
I think it would be a very useful feature since in many occasions the built in rich text editor would meet the requirements of writing an ordinary letter or own memos. But without the ability to format a page one has to export to an office osftware. If not yet implemented, will it be on your todo list?

H.H.

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Kyle A 1. http://www.kinook.com/For....php?t=709

2. No, but you can edit .urd files on a USB stick or transfer them between computers using file copy, a file sync tool, etc.

3. What do you mean by page layout? The rich text editor provides formatting capabilities (fonts, styles, colors, highlighting, hyperlinks, tabs, tables, etc.), and you can choose layout options for printing via print preview (margins, headers, footers, portrait/landscape, etc.).

Kinook Software, Inc. - Oct 29 2013 at 3:51am Copy Link

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JL Hi,

Is there any option to clear the history list and a way to go back to the default or to the desired UR saved settings?

It seems to me that UR has a lot of setting to customize. I would like to be able to save some of the customizations to be able to recall them back. For example, to be able to import web pages and only need to choose a desired importing profile from a list.

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Kyle A Which history list? In the address bar or quick search drop-down, pressing Delete remove the selected item from the drop-down list (with the drop-down list displayed, use up/down arrow keys to select an item and Delete to remove it).

See here for backing up and restoring settings: http://www.kinook.com/For...php?t=2935

What do you mean by 'a desired importing profile'? Using File | Import, you can save/select different settings via Save settings as/Use saved settings fields.

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H. H. @ Kyle Alons
thank you for responding

regardin question 1) I read the Forum link where is written theoretical max of 2Tb, practical expierence with mostly 300mb, some 5gb. Since the article is from 2004, is there any more practical experience regarding the database size? 1gb e.g. can be a lot, when mainly storing text files, but not much space, when having to store Office documents with embedded pictures, pdf files,...
I was considering, if Ultra recall could be helpful for saving webpages, but since they mostly have pictures embedded, 5gb does not seem too much.
But perhaps inbetween the size, People have practical experience with databases larger than they have been tested 9 years ago?

regarding question3) The Page print preview is close to what I meant, but what I mean is a page preview already during writing, which allows to see, (without always switching to print preview) how much e.g. A4 pages the text one is writing requires. When writing in Ultra recall one has no orientation during writing (office programs allow to see the line - and pagebreak during writing).

Thank you for clarifying and apologize my mistakes in english language

H.H.

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Kyle A You should be able to store quite a few files in a 5GB db. I haven't heard of many DBs larger than that. I have two main databases. One stores all email messages, including attachments, for the last 15 years (~35,000 messages and about 400MB in size). The other is my main organizational database, including quite a few imported web pages, PDFs, text files, notes, etc. (~6,000 items and 100MB). I would imagine larger databases would be more manageable now with the faster hard drives of today.

There isn't a page layout view in UR while editing. You would need to edit externally in Word for that (Item | Open Document or Ctrl+J).

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JL OK thanks for the information Kyle Alons. So it lacks of a full clean but I could delete everything manually. Is it possible to delete the url of the previous imported page? It is displayed when you want to import a new one.

So the backup function is not integrated in the gui. Thanks for the manual steps procedure.
“What do you mean by 'a desired importing profile'?” Sorry, it was my fault, wrong example.

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Kyle A It remembers the previous settings. You can just clear out the field. But it's probably more common to import web pages via the browser integration, copy/paste, drag/drop, or global import hotkey.
http://www.kinook.com/Ult...ration.htm
http://www.kinook.com/Ult...ration.htm
http://www.kinook.com/Ult...ources.htm
http://www.kinook.com/Ult...rowser.htm
http://www.kinook.com/Ult...dialog.htm

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Matt Hi Kyle,

I purchased UR Pro and am running the 'portable' version on my local C drive.

1. Is it normal to have registry entries and files within AppData\Roaming created when running the portable version?

2. And does it still hold true in 'backing up and restoring settings' on a portable installation, that you only need to back up the .dat and .ini files even though the above mentioned registry entries and files were created?

Thank you.

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garrett james Hi Kyle,

May i ask the Date version 5 was released? And is it true that your Upgrade policy to a new major release is only 60 days from purchase?

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Libor Kmonícek Ultra Recall Pro is a great software and this is a great offer.
....Not for me, I already have my license UR and happily use it ...
But I recommend it - it's the best program type "knowledgebase" for personal use.

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Kyle A @matt: I think there might be a few settings that are stored in the registry, but most should be in the .ini files for the portable version.

@garrett: v5.0 was released in June 2012 (http://www.kinook.com/For...php?t=5011). All updates in the next year or more will be in 5.x (free).

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MojoMan Hi Kyle,

I would love to see a couple more document management functions in UR.... Which are probably outside the scope of what UR is intended to be.

One would be to have the ability to actually scan documents into UR. The other would be to have the ability to embed spreadsheets into notes. OneNote does have these functions, but it is otherwise a different animal altogether.

Just thought I'd add to the wishlist... Just in case :)

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VLM Kyle, you write: "You should be able to store quite a few files in a 5GB db." I have about 20 GB of email history, so this would not even come close for me. That said, I was not planning on storing email in UR, but rather using it other ways.

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Mappi75 Hope this Deal came soon for the pro version!
Hope they offer paypal (dont have a credit card).

Thanks! :)

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Mappi75 Plz make this Deal real!

Thank you very much!

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Loco78 * When the program is again in promotion?
It is planned again promotional offer?

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Mappi75 Hi!

Will you offer Paypal for Payment ?

Like sending the amount to your email adress.

Thank you very much!

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Kyle A Yes.

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Francis Pillow what's the diff with pro vs std?

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Kyle A http://www.kinook.com/Ult...tions.html

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Sean Lamb I use UR Pro to organize just about everything. I do wish product updates happened a bit more frequently though. Integration w/64-bit outlook would be a great start. Is a new major version in the works??

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Kyle A http://www.kinook.com/For...php?t=3204

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peter schleifer I had a good look at your roadmap (the above link), and I think that it lists very valuable items, and especially the (pending) keyword/tagging improvements will be of much interest to many people, as will be a better calendar/ToDo functionality and filtering in the tree, multi-db search and automatic calculations (addition of the values in a field in siblings, in the respective field of the parent item, first of all); of course, the question remains how long the latter improvements will take.

On the other hand, I always miss, even in this current roadmap, any mention of planned global replace, which unfortunately is a dealbreaker for me. I know you said it is not high on your priorities' list since it can theoretically be done with external tools, i.e. with (free or paid) SQLite interfaces (shells or GUIs), but then, UR is the only (otherwise very) professional outliner of my knowlege that asks its users to fall back on external tools in order to do "global replace" (this term also meaning any replace in more than one item at a given time, e.g. within a range of siblings).

Thus, I would be very interested in your giving some reason for your refusal to implement that very important and basic feature which is present in every notable contender (and in the "professional" version there at the very least): Why, in UR, would such a function be almost impossible to implement?

Also, I would like to mention that whilst (direct) "Formatting of items in tree" is rather further down within the roadmap's list, such formatting is even possible today, albeit indirectly, by creating special formats together with symbols, and then by hiding all those symbols (by an option which is available for that).

So UR even today has got all you need, even though not everything in optimized shape yet (cf. the help file improvements you rightly consider), and that makes it all the more annoying that such an otherwise good program (which is also very stable even with big data) misses such a basic function as is global text replace; I would very much appreciate your reconsidering this issue.

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Visitor-2014 There are various problems which seem to have to do with a non-complete support of Unicode:

- It is not possible to create a correct alphabetical order of the items in the tree (Data explorer pane). It was tested with German words (latin characters, even when none of the words contained an "Umlaut") and with words with Greek characters. At the same time, the sorting of the same items in alphabetical order worked correctly in the list with the child Items.

Concerning the professional addition of "Ultra Recall":
- The mentioned mistakes in the alphabetical order in the tree continue in the index of the HTML version.

- But moreover the export to HTMl / Website (File --> Export --> Documents and item rich text to HTML) does not succeed at all in the following cases (tested with the category "Notes" and its child items [all of the category "Text"]):

a) when among the child items is one (or more) which has a German "Umlaut" in its title (= Ä, Ö, Ü, ä, ö ,ü). In this case the export of "Notes" would only work when I uncheck the box "Export child items (recursive)" (but of course then without any child items).

b) when among the child items is one (or more) that contains a Greek letter. (In this case not even the unchecking of the above mentioned box helps.)

In both cases (a and b) the error message says: "Error exporting item(s): File Not Found!"

So my impression is that the program at the moment is not suitable to satisfy the needs of users who would like to use it for another language than English.

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Mariusz Lewandowski "So my impression is that the program at the moment is not suitable to satisfy the needs of users who would like to use it for another language than English."

I use Polish language inside UR with no problems. Sorting, indexing, import/export, etc. works as supposed to. Must admit I lost other useful functionality with upgrade to Windows 7 but afaik the problem is outside UR.
So as per my experience UR works ok not only with the English language.

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Niels Erik Karkov It seems that the search option does not react on Scandinavian characters. Hopefully its just me doing something wrong but I have tried for a while now to figure out how to have a reaction. It does not help to write ? or * in stead of the Scandinavian characters

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Kyle A @Visitor-2014:

Regarding sorting in the tree, see http://www.kinook.com/For...php?t=4652

Regarding the export problem, this is fixed in the latest download at http://www.kinook.com/UR/download.html (UltraRecall.exe 5.1.0.7 in Help | About after installing).

@Niels Erik Karkov: That works in our tests. See the test database at http://www.kinook.com/Dow...emp/se.zip

Thanks.

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Paulo Correia Is there a new version on the way? UR seems to be abondoned. Thanks.

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Niels Erik Karkov Thanks for answer on the Scandinavian characters. It Works brilliantly

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John Moverley The Ultra Recall Editions Comparison says that the pro version imports infoselect files. I have downloaded a trial version of pro Ultra Recall but it does not seem to have this feature.

Am I missing something?

or

is it not available in the trial pro version but will be after paying?

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Kyle A http://www.kinook.com/For...php?t=1077

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peter schleifer Above-mentioned stability of the program is thanks to the database it uses and does not extend to the (otherwise quite elaborate) search provided by the program; this means it happened that expected search hits were left out, from correct search orders, and tries in the forum to work this out were unfruitful, so you should never be entirely sure you get all relevant hits in search.

And as you see above, the developer, who in the past said, do search-and-replace by external tools (and to your own risk of course), and that implementation of such a basic feature was "not high on his ToDo list", does not even answer anymore when you kindly ask if he'd be willing to reconsider.

Thus I put high hopes in the competing (and evenly-priced) MyInfo from Milenix, which is regularly here on bitsdujour, too, and which has got a highly-responsive developer who's actively trying to provide his customers with every functionality you'd expect from such a program.

P.S.: I didn't understand from the above comments why suddenly Scandinavian characters would be sorted properly; I never succeeded in sorting special German characters correctly.

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Mappi75 I bought the Pro Edition..

hope Kyle will fix this "German "Umlaut" in its title (= Ä, Ö, Ü, ä, ö ,ü) thing.

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Neo Alive Hi

I like to pay by paypal not by credit card. How to accomplish this? The website with the offer only allows creditcard payment.

I only have paypal.

Best regards,
Neo

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Kyle A In PayPal, send money to orders

kinook.com.

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Kyle A @Mappi75: See my earlier response regarding sorting in the tree and HTML export with German/Greek characters. After that, if you're still having a problem with German characters in the title, please send the info from http://www.kinook.com/For...php?t=3038.

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Neo Alive Hi

Done... check your paypal account.

Best regards,
Neo

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Mappi75 Thanks Kyle!

I will test it with my own full version otherwise i will send you a report.

BTW: thanks for the offer!

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Thriftslut For those of you who are torn between ordering the Standard Edition and the Pro Edition, I would suggest you use your prior experience with database programs to make your decision. If you've never used a program like this before and all you want is a place to store and retrieve bits of information, the Standard Edition is probably fine. If you are familiar with such databases and want to do complicated things - e.g., write an entire book in the program, reduce distraction by hoisting notes, access individual notes from shortcuts or hyperlinks on the desktop or in other documents, etc. - opt for the Professional Edition at this price.

Here's some random thoughts based on my experience in using databases, including everything from InfoSelect in the early 90's to UltraRecall to Evernote to the current version of OneNote:

First of all, it's not easy to find a PIM that will satisfy you completely. Be careful about letting yourself get trapped in the time suck "vision quest" for the perfect PIM. (See http://www.bitsdujour.com...r-programs). All of them work, more or less, but it's not easy to find one that's perfect for YOU.

If you do buy the program, do not be discouraged by the learning curve that has to be surmounted before you can use all the program's features. You can get the program up and running quickly, but it will take time to get to use it at a high level of expertise. This is true of all powerful PIMs. That said, UR's documentation is quite good compared with Evernote or OneNote or many other PIMs and the quality of the documentation is one reason I prefer UR to all the others I have used.

Up until Version 8, when problems in development became acute, InfoSelect was the standard by which all such programs had to be measured. The older versions of IS fully deserved the cult that developed around the program. UltraRecall is the only modern program that comes close to the efficiency and effectiveness of IS.

If you are fully satisfied with OneNote or Evernote, you probably do not need a program like UltraRecall. If OneNote frustrates you because it promises a lot but fails to deliver, you will will find that UltraRecall makes OneNote and most of the other such programs (Treepad etc.) look kind of toy-like. In my own experience, UR actually interfaces better with Word than does OneNote - something to consider if you produce long documents.

UR's internal browser is really handy for doing internet research. Would love to have someone from UR comment about its security - how susceptible is it to attacks compared with Internet Explorer, Firefox, etc.

If you are a PIM newbie, you probably cannot appreciate the practical importance of such Pro Version features such as hoisting. Once you master the program, these extra features are well worth the money.

Finally, Dropbox and similar programs allow you to sync your UR databases between computers, but there is no online access to your data as there is with OneNote or Evernote, where you can go online to edit your files. For me, this is an advantage, but for you it might not be.

Hope this helps.

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Visitor-2014 HTML exporting of items with non-standard characters in their title works o.k. with the latest version. Thanks for the quick fix.

But for the lack of correct (alphabetical) sorting in the tree I do not see a solution until now. The reference to the thread http://www.kinook.com/For...php?t=4652 obviously means that I have to download (and extract and double-click) the file offered there (in posting #4). I did so, but this did not change anything in the existence of a wrong alphabetical order within the tree. Moreover I do not have a good feeling when I have to change something in the registry (by using the mentioned file) in order to achieve such a basic function as an alphabetical order.

Something else:
I find it a bit cumbersome to create simply a new item "Text". Maybe that I did not test the software enough, but I could not find out a method to make it with a simple mouse click (e.g. on some button). Regardless how I tried it (via tree, via button, ...), I needed two or three mouse clicks.

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Neo Alive Hi

is there a way to get this layout? I would like the dataexplorer to have tabs of its own.

http://bauerapps.com/

Each group of notes has its own tab and the ability to get back to a higher parent if you click on one of the children.

I can only somehow get close to this working but it fails on getting back to the parent of a child which makes it time consuming and making me go back to rightnote again.

Your app really looks better but it seems it works more time consuming

Best regards,
Neo
Theme support

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Bjondc I have v.4 from 2011 (but for some reason never used it) -- tried to use it -- the file from 2011-- & the registration box just keeps saying the # is invalid. I am copying directly from the email I got back then.
Please advise!

Also -- can I upgrade to the latest version w/o buying again?

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Kyle A @Thriftslut: The internal browser in UR is IE, so it would have the same susceptibility to attacks as Internet Explorer itself. If you install the latest Windows and IE updates, it should be quite secure.

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Kyle A @Visitor-2014: After double-clicking DisableSortDateNumericInTree.reg and restarting UR as described in that thread, the tree should sort in the same way as the Related Items pane (using Windows string comparison, which should also match the sorting in Windows, Explorer, etc.). If not, please send the info from http://www.kinook.com/For...php?t=3038 . If the selected item's Default Child Template attribute is Text, clicking the Insert button on the Standard toolbar (3rd from the right) or pressing the Insert key will insert a new Text child item under the selected item. http://www.kinook.com/Ult...oolbar.htm Or, use Tree | Insert Child | on the menu, or create a tear-off menu for the insert child command: http://www.kinook.com/Ult...oolbar.htm

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Kyle A @Neo Alive: You can open multiple tabs (shown above the Item Details pane) via the Tab menu.

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Kyle A @Bjondc: Make sure that Help | About | Install Info shows Ultra Recall Professional 4.x If it shows 'Ultra Recall Professional 5.x' or 'Ultra Recall 4.x', you will need to uninstall, then download and install the Professional v4 edition from http://www.kinook.com/Dow...Pro42b.exe . Then, make sure to copy and paste all the lines between the 'Copy lines below/above' lines from the license info email (not just the license key) into the Register dialog. If that doesn't help, please ZIP and send: 1) The info from Help | About 2) A screen shot of the Register dialog after pasting the license info. Your v4 license info is not valid for v5. Purchasing v5 on BDJ today is cheaper than the regular upgrade price.

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Bjondc Thanks @Kyle, that did the trick!
(I'd been trying to register in the box Help/Register, & with just the key)
Still thinking over whether or not to upgrade & start fresh.

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Stephen Warkentien BitsDuJour says that I have already purchased Ultra Recall but I can not find any record of a license key. Can you help me please?

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Kyle A I can't find your name in our order database.

Kinook Software, Inc. - Jul 14 2014 at 8:12pm Copy Link

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Stephen Warkentien That is frustrating. Thanks for checking Kyle.

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Constantin Florea @Stephen Warkentien - We do show the product icon in the "Off-Site Purchases" section in your Purchases page (from your profile) for those products on which you have clicked the Get This Deal button while the promotion was active. However we have now way of knowing if you went all the way and purchased the product. So we show the product icon in the "Off-Site Purchases" only if you clicked the Get This Deal button but that doesn't mean that you actually purchased the product.

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Neo Alive @Kyle A As you could read that does not solve my issue. As the moment i open a note in that tabe in the child list i loos track of the parent item. Can you please adjust the code so it works like in the bauer app. It really does make more sense.

Take some extra time and please take a close look about what i mean. You will see that it is a better way of handling and accessing the notes. Please adapt that way it will be a great enhancement.

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MBe @Kyle - for Paypal, what is with Tax, I'm from Germany?

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Kyle A We only collect sales tax for purchases made from the state of Colorado (USA).

Kinook Software, Inc. - Jul 15 2014 at 5:34am Copy Link

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rob m PayPal payment sent Kyle. Regards, Rob.

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rob m Just a word for people umming over this app - at this price it's an extremely good buy.
If you like me get fed up with the bloatware of today's apps and get off on fast and efficient code with a database to store most of whatever we want in one accessible place, then URPro on a USB stick is perfect for most of us.

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Kyle A @Neo Alive: RightNote doesn't have a Child Items pane, so to operate more like that app, close the Child Items pane.

To go to the parent of an item, with focus in the tree, press Backspace, or choose Go | Up One Level on the menu. To return to the original item in a tab, choose Tab | Lock Title after opening a new tab, then use Tab | Go to Locked Item to return to the originally locked item.

Kinook Software, Inc. - Jul 15 2014 at 6:46am Copy Link

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Rob Sargent I didn't see .pdf files mentioned. Will it search those files too? Thanks --- Rob

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Kyle A Yes, in the Professional edition. See the Import section:
http://www.kinook.com/Ult...tions.html

Kinook Software, Inc. - Jul 15 2014 at 11:50am Copy Link

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Flo @ Neo Alive: I am curious, where do you see the advantages of UR over RightNote? I am trying to decide between the two. Thanks!

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Stephen Warkentien @Constantin Florea, Adding the "Purchased" badge before the sale is complete gives me false information. If I see "Purchased" on a program of interest I assume I already have a license.

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Neo Alive @Kyle A. I dont think you are not getting what i am trying to say or i dont make myself clear. It has a child window. But it keeps the list and does not advance to the item loosing the focus in the list and the complete list keeps visible.

RightNote groups the notes in tabs and keeps the list of notes in the left pane visible. I dont have to click the back button or any other key to get back to the list.

Having the Notes in Tabs groups makes it much more workable then having them all on the left in your navigation pane with all the other stuff. Its more "ballast" & "confusing"

http://i.imgur.com/lfou0If.jpg

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Kyle A I'm still not following you. By 'list' and 'child window', I guess you're referring to the tree (Data Explorer pane in UR)? I'm not sure what you mean by 'does not advance to the item loosing the focus in the list'. Within a tab in UR, the tree does remain visible with all the items visible after selecting a child item (unless you hoist the tree to that item).

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Mariusz Lewandowski @ Neo
My 0,02$: RightNote's tabs have their own independent trees while UR has only one tree that can be displayed on many tabs (in different views). Probably this is the reason you have the feeling that RN "keeps the list".

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Kyle A You can hoist each tab in UR (Tree | Hoist) to a different location in the tree to achieve the same effect.

Kinook Software, Inc. - Jul 16 2014 at 6:08am Copy Link

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Pavi Johnson Hi, can the standard edition offered here open previous version databases, specifically version 4 Professional?

Thanks, /Pavi

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Kyle A Yes, if it's not encrypted, but some features won't be available (forms, hoisting, sync, etc.).

Kinook Software, Inc. - Jun 3 2015 at 5:37am Copy Link

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_*_ Is the upgrade policy correct at 2 months only?

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Kyle A All 5.x updates are included, regardless of when released. There would only be an upgrade fee for a major release (v6), which won't be happening in the next few months.

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Joana User Is there a new version coming this year?

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Kyle A Possibly a 5.x update, but probably not 6.0.

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_*_ Thank you for clarifying.

I have another question(s) about the program.

Is there a way to create multiple Tabs with different labels and information contained within them?

As it is now, upon click the "new tab" button (to the right of the existing tab), it simply copies the tab and the contents. If I delete the information in the newly created tab it deletes all the information in both tabs.

I am at a loss the purpose of the tabs as it is now.

It would be great to have say, in the left-hand pane a tree-list item titled "Trees" and then a number of tabs to the right with labels and information for things like, "Fruit Bearing," "Spraying Times," "Harvest Times," etc.

Also, can the standard version import websites?

Thanks for any help you can offer.

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Kyle A Within each tab, you can navigate, select, and even hoist (in the Pro edition) different items and locations in the tree. When you switch tabs, the selection and hoisting will be switched to reflect that tab's information. You can also lock a tab title to the currently selected item (on the Tab menu).

I'm not sure what you mean by "If I delete the information in the newly created tab it deletes all the information in both tabs." Yes, if you physically delete an item from the database, it will no longer be visible in any tab. But if you select another item in one tab, that item will be selected again when returning to that tab.

Yes, you can import web pages in the Standard edition, but the Std edition doesn't index the page content for searching.
http://kinook.com/UltraRe...tions.html

Kinook Software, Inc. - Jun 3 2015 at 8:54am Copy Link

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Nick Kobe I am somewhat concerned regarding the database. Is the entire file stored in the database? Is so, what protection is built into the software to protect the database content from a database that becomes unusable? Is there a limit on the size of the database? Does the database size impact the system's speed? If files are stored in the database how do you export them should you choose not to use the software any longer? When exporting all the files in the database, assuming they are stored in the database, how are they names and into what directory are they stored? Thanks!

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Kyle A Yes, everything is stored in a single file (.urd file extension). It's a SQLite database, which is very robust and unlikely to become corrupted (of course, it's always a good idea to keep backups of any important files so that you can restore a good copy if you experience disk problems). Using a database is actually crucial to maintaining decent performance as the size of your data grows. Most of your questions are answered in the links at the bottom of this reply.

You do have the option of linking, rather than storing, documents in UR (and if located in a subfolder of the .urd file path, the file will be referenced with a relative path, so the .urd and linked files can be moved with the link remaining intact). The content will still be indexed, but the document will remain outside of the .urd file.
http://www.kinook.com/Ult...bjects.htm

Regarding exporting, you can always export all content stored in the .urd file, with any imported document exported in its original format. You specify the directory to export to (subfolders will be created when exporting recursively). An imported document will be exported with the same filename as the original file when it was imported. See here for more details:
http://www.kinook.com/Ult...wizard.htm

http://kinook.com/Forum/s....php?t=709

http://kinook.com/Forum/s....php?t=731

http://www.kinook.com/For...php?t=2673

http://www.kinook.com/For...php?t=3627

http://www.kinook.com/For...php?t=2825

Kinook Software, Inc. - Jun 3 2015 at 10:15am Copy Link

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Allan User hi, can this version capture web pages in chrom?
thenks, reida500

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Kyle A Yes, via copy/paste or drag/drop.

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_*_ Kyle A, let me ask after reading your response above about the Tabs.

Is it possible to have multiple tabs with unique titles and unique information in each tab?
I am not sure what the reason is to click and add additional tabs when it simply copies the current and all its contents.

Can I have a left-hand pane tree item with multiple right-hand window Tabs all different from one another with different information under each tab?

Thank you

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Kyle A Yes, each tab can have a unique title and information. After opening a tab, you can navigate to any item in the database, hoist to a particular location, etc. Normally, whatever item was last selected will be used for the title of the tab, or if an item title is locked in a tab, that item's title will be used for the title of the tab. Hoisting is used to limit a particular tab to some portion of the tree.
http://www.kinook.com/Ult...isting.htm

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bvssunnydale Hi, I have a 300MB in an askSam database [all text] - would this be too much for UR to import? Or no problem [I'm a registered user of UR Pro 4]. Thanks.

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Kyle A Shouldn't be a problem. See here for how that is done (pretty old, so I don't know if it applies to all versions of AskSam):
http://kinook.com/Forum/s...php?t=1078

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_*_ @Kyle A, thanks for letting me know how this works. Unfortunately, hoisting is only in the professional edition. To pay $20 extra dollars for one feature is not worth the added expense.

I just purchased RightNote here on Bits last week. However, I really liked Ultra Recall and would have purchased, but the extra cost is too dear for one extra feature that seems very necessary.

Thanks for all your help and hope you do well in this promotion.

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Jim McGowan Quote from "_*_": "To pay $20 extra dollars for one feature is not worth the added expense."

For clarity, there's a lot more than "one feature" in the Pro version that's not in the Standard version.

Perhaps hoisting is the only feature you feel you will use in the Pro version, but there are certainly many more features in UR Pro.

Jim

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Pavi Johnson Hi again, my database is encrypted. I just want the possibility to open it on Windows 8. If I re-save it without encryption on a Windows 7 machine, could I then convert it to version 5 and use on Windows 8 (with standard edition)?

Best, /Pavi

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HJ B I downloaded and installed this and I looked at he help file. It is still not clear to me how this works.

Can I point the program to my desktop or to some other area of my system, and tell it to collect all pdfs or all MS word files? Or must I selection each file, one by one?

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HJ B 1. Can this program be pointed to a directory or subdirectory of a disk, and told to gather documents of a certain type (pdf., doc, dox etc), or must each document be individually selected by the user and imported into the program?

2. Is there a booklet and/or video that describes the functionality and operation of the program? Or is there only the in-dwelling chm file?

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LM Stafford Can URecall import the current Treepad .tpd format files and keep any of that files embedded graphics completely intact? (I assume it will import th. .hjt format files but the graphice are typically lost in the importing process.)
Kindly advise. Thanks.
LS

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Mister User Question for Kyle at Kinook Software:

Would you please explain the process of "hoisting" and "un-hoisting".

Thank you very much!

Best regards, Mister Lee

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_*_ @Jim McGowan, of course I meant the one feature (Hoisting) I spoke of in the sentence before the one you copied. Pulling the second sentence out removes it from its context and thus gave you the ability to make the point you were after.

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Kyle A @Pavi Johnson: Yes

@HJ B: You can import (or synchronize, in the Pro edition) all files in a folder recursively.
http://www.kinook.com/Ult...source.htm

http://www.kinook.com/Ult...zation.htm

@LM Stafford: Here are the instructions on importing from TreePad. I think it will include images, but you'll have to try it to verify.
http://www.kinook.com/For...php?t=1069

@Mister User: You can select and then hoist an item in the tree (Tree | Hoist), and it will become the root of the tree in that tab (to limit what is displayed in the tree to a section of the entire tree). Unhoisting reverts back to the My Data item as root to show the entire tree again.
http://www.kinook.com/Ult...isting.htm

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Mansoor Seikh Hi, Is there a versioning feature in this tool, for notes and imported files?

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Kyle A No.

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Peter User I always ask this and I hope people don't mind
Is there a way to split notes, rearrange them and joint them or several notes together.
I always ask this because as soon as someone does this I will be very interested

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Jim Witherspoon Will this version of UR run under Windows 10 without any problems?

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Kyle A @Peter User: To split, cut and paste text from an item into the tree, or use the rich text import and specify a delimiter to create multiple items during import.
http://www.kinook.com/Ult...xtfile.htm

To join, see http://www.kinook.com/Ult...oitems.htm

@Jim Witherspoon: Yes, UR functions normally on Windows 10 in our tests.

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LM Stafford Thanks I'll give it a try.

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Kelly Hamblin I can say that this is a really nice and comprehensive application. I have an older version on my XP machine and miss it on the newer computer. I was just looking at the licensing info, available on the Fine Print tab, and realize that I can transfer it to my working desktop. Hoping that another time I will be able to upgrade.

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MrZebulon Helpful piece of software. The only thing I miss is a feature to easy detect and delete duplicate entries.
I have lots of them, because I imported my scrapbook entries from FireFox. My fault, but I want to clean my Ultra Recall database.

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Adolphe 1. On some versions of this page I saw a distinction between a Standard and Professional version of Ultra Recall. I can't find a Standard version on Kinook's website. Is there such a thing ? Incidentally, this mention of the rebate applying to both versions has disappeared now that I have logged in.

2. Is Ultra Recall high DPI aware ?

3. Could you please confirm that the 30-days return policy applies to Ultra Recall being bought through this offer at Bits du Jour, not only directly from Kinook at full price, as I have been denied return by one publisher in a similar situation in the past ?

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Adolphe I have now installed the trial version. It appears that Ultra Recall is not high DPI aware (please correct me if I'm wrong) : with Windows 7 display set at 150 %, the interface is blurry. So I have checked the box Disable Display Scaling at High DPI Settings, in the Compatibility tab of the Properties of the executable. This corrects part of the problem : the interface is back in focus now.

However, icons are now way too small. The large icons option in the Tools/Customize menu is unusable, because then the icons are way too big, and some of them are very, very jagged. The interface text, however, renders correctly (it's not too small).

Could you please tell me if there's a way to correct this problem ?

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Brent Carey My one BIG concern is the upgrade/update policy. It's only good for two months. Almost all other software companies that I have dealt with give you at least a year. That's not a great selling point.

Just my two-cent's worth.

I would appreciate hearing from the dev on this one. Thanks!! :)

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Kyle A @Adolphe: 1. Standard edition is no longer available

2. No. Support for that is on the list.

3. Yes

@Brent Carey: A purchase includes all minor upgrades for the major release purchased. There are at least 3 years between major releases, and all updates during that time are free.

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Adolphe This : "A purchase includes all minor upgrades for the major release purchased. There are at least 3 years between major releases, and all updates during that time are free" seems to contradict the fine print : "Upgrades to future versions of the software will be free for 2 months. For versions after that, upgrades will require additional payment, which will be discounted by 50%". Which is it ?

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Kyle A http://kinook.com/order_policy.html

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S.C. Have used this program for years. highly recommended.

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Adolphe Kyle,

I am aware of this page of your website. It does not answer my question.

You wrote to Brent Carey that the present offer includes free updates until the next major version, whith typically three years between major versions (but we don't know when the last major version was issued).

The "fine print" page on your Bits du Jour offer says there are only free updates for two months after purchase.

Those two statements contradict each other. One of those statements should be retracted or corrected.

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M User Hum ... payment only by credit card?? I don't have a cc (or PayPal). Can you sent me a link for bank transfer (from Europe - Belgium)? With other BDJ-offers there's no problem for paying with bank transfer. Thanks!

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Todd User I bought XYPlorer here more than 4 years ago. It is my "go to" program and is always open on my desktop. I use it all day every day and can't imagine doing my job and hobbies without it. It is SO much more than just a file manager.

The developer is constantly seeking input from users to improve the product. If there's something you need and don't find, ask the author. His developer's forum is always very busy and he's making so many changes to the program, that it's sometimes hard to get my suggestions squeezed in.

Bottom line: If you use your body of files a lot, or need custom scripts to work with your files, this is the program for you.

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bvssunnydale Hi, your site says that UltraRecall "supports" askSam (an older, now defunct, PIM). I have a 550MB file of pure text [30K "document" pages, from one line to 100 "regular" pages]. I don't need support for all of askSam's indexing and tagging capacity but I do need to import all the data primarily so I can quickly search/find specific docs. Can UltraRecall import a file of this size and, if so, can you provide a link as to how I could test it out? Thanks.

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bvssunnydale Also, what's the current version number of UltraRecall? I have version 4 but have never really got past installing it.

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smaragdus No PayPal? This is not serious.

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Wocius Wei Version 5 was released on June 8, 2012. Version 5.2 (on offer here) apparently was released on April 30, 2015 and received a dot increase on January 17 of this year. Note that the developer wisely wrote above "There are **at least** 3 years between major releases" (my emphasis).

Kinook's website defines major vs. minor releases:

"All minor releases (i.e., 2.0 -> 2.1) are free for licensed users. To upgrade from an earlier version, download the latest version and install over your existing copy. There may be an upgrade fee for major product releases (i.e., 2.x -> 3.x). Purchases within 60 days of a major product release are eligible for a free upgrade to the next major version."

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lisba f Looks very interesting but as I know from earlier posting it probably still doesn't support Unicode.

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Kyle A @Adolphe: Both statements are correct. All updates until the next major release (at least 60 days).

@bvssunnydale: Use the import wizard to import all files in a folder (and subfolders). See here for instructions on importing from AskSam:

http://kinook.com/Forum/s...php?t=1078

http://kinook.com/UltraRe...folder.htm

The current version is 5.2.

@smaragdus: You can pay via PayPal by sending money to orders@kinook.com

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brunorocher Sorry Any french translation for this soft ?

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Kyle A http://kinook.com/Forum/s...php?t=3873

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David Powelstock @Adolphe: It may be helpful to keep in mind the difference between "updates" (within a version) and "upgrades" (new version).

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Todd User Sorry. I read one name and thought another. My earlier "review" of this product was for a different product. I *do* have and use this product, and here is the review for it:

When I first bought UR, I played with it for weeks trying to make it do what I wanted. Everyone praised its versatility and usefulness, but I just couldn't figure it out. It has an immense learning curve.

A couple of years later, I identified a need for a database that UR seemed well suited for. I took my time identifying specific needs and finding how to solve them in UR, and after about a month of setting it up, I now have the perfect database to suit my needs. Where there were a few failings, I wrote the author and after a brief Q&A, was given what I sought. The author hasn't released a meaningful upgrade in a long time, so if you want a program that's actively supported, try something else. That said, the program is so capable, that there is little need for upgrade.

In conclusion, it's a little clunky with a steep learning curve, but with a well considered setup, will do anything you could ask.

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Adolphe @ Lisba f : Ultra Recall does not support Unicode ? How is that even possible ? What are the consequences ? Are accented characters rendered correctly ?

@ Todd : isn't XYPlorer only an enhanced Windows Explorer ? For instance, can it import and search Web pages as bookmarks, Web pages or both, as Ultra Recall reportedly can ?

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M User @Kyle: hm, and I must go the cracking way? (see my question above)

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Adolphe @ David Powelstock : companies selling things should not play word games. They should explain their policies in clear and unambiguous terms, answer questions when asked, and not suppose their own specific, in-house jargon is shared by everyone (that's if your hypothesis is correct).

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David Powelstock @Adolphe Whatever. Not really sure why you're so pissed off. You asked a question, and many kind people tried to help answer it for you. It should be pretty clear to you by now what is meant. BTW, this way of dealing with updates and upgrades has been the standard in the software market for the last twenty years (although some companies have moved to the subscription model). It's really not rocket science.

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geo User @ Kyle A : From your previous comment to @smaragdus I understand that someone can use PAYPAL for this $39 offer to orders@kinook.com ?

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Kyle A @M User: We do not accept payment by wire transfer.

@geo User: Yes.

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geo User A couple of questions for the developer.
On how many PCs can we install?
If purchased in March of 2017 version 5.2, can we still upgrade to any release within the v5 series of releases?

Thanks for a great piece of software by the way!!

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Flyfisher Hello

I have a 30GB folder with subfolders, each comprising numerous MSOfffice files, images, etc.

Apart from disk space is there any limitation on the size of a Ultra Recall file.

Secondly is retrieval degradation likely to kick in with these folder sizes?

Many thanks

Alex

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Sara User It's been a long time UR has been on bits; it's been an even longer time current version 5 is on the market, so version 6 is imminent. Fine print: "Upgrades to future versions of the software will be free for 2 months.", so it's obvious buyers will have to pay for the upgrade (then, according to past update policy, that version 6, with all its sub versions, would be available without upgrade cost again?)

In other words, general / past (?) upgrade policy of UR is / was (?) very acceptable (but is also to be seen in light of the incredibly low development pace of this tool, for many years now, not just recently, so users - see the forum, among other things - weren't that much happy with the paid upgrade between 4 and 5, but then, some were even "forced" to upgrade since 4 doesn't work beyond W7: smart move indeed, replacing intro of enticing new funcs, haha!).

Whilst this current offer here is as follows (all prices rounded): 40 bucks here plus 50 bucks in 2 or 3 months (when version 6 will come out, and IF it's worth it then; well, even version 5 works on W10 for the time being, post author knocking on wood here...), makes it 90 bucks for you instead of 100 for buying then, always plus VAT for people under the strain of the European Maff (or more precisely, 39 plus 49.50 = 88.50 instead of 99, which is 10.50 off for NOT knowing of version 6's new goodies incl. their possible use for you).

These 10.50 are thus sort of a "reverse assurance", or in other words, they're a quite lousy bet.

Hence my kind asking for a list of new functionality to be included into v6, let's say within the next 15 months or so. ("To be included" not meaning some road map entries on intensive care or now in brain rehab, but wonderful things that will really come down to us, short-term.)

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Kyle A @geo User: A single user can install one license on multiple computers. See https://kinook.com/UltraR...eement.htm

If you already have v5.x, 5.3 is a free update and uses your existing v5 license info.

@Alex Muir: See

https://kinook.com/Forum/....php?t=709

https://kinook.com/Forum/....php?t=731

@Sara User: UR is already pretty well baked, and v6 is not around the corner.

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Kelly Hamblin Perfect! I used this lovely app on my XP machine, but that version does not work on newer OS (Win7). Now I will be able to afford a new license. Can't wait.

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Sara User @Kyle A: Well, it's time, then! Users are waiting for new things (see the road map / comments).

But, since your traditional update/upgrade policy was: -50 p.c. for each new major version (2.0, 3.0...), free within that major version, with major versions coming every 4 years or so - which, with really active development at least, is / was VERY reasonable in the past -, whilst here on bits, it's 2 months for "upgrades": why such a weird limitation, then, and what does it mean?

For your usual "all updates within the current major version (5) free, upgrade to version 6 would be paid", IF 6 is not around the corner, why not say the above, adding "(6 would not be out but in 18 months or later though)"?

Instead, it's "upgrades free for 2 months" - the weirdest thing in upwhatever policies I've read in my life; since such an assertion tremendously harms business, it only makes (very doubtful at that) sense if you plan to issue such an "upgrade"

(I'd prefer the terms "minor (free) / major (paid) updates", and then "upgrade" for switches from a standard to a "professional" or whatever reason, or from MS Word to full MS Office and such things, anyway)

within that time. Ultra bad wording, then, if not bad timing, too.

@Kelly: ???: It's proven and official that v. 4 doesn't run on W10 anymore, but it not running on W7 either? Or speaking of ancient v. 3? Your "that version" is a little bit vague; in fact I think having read that (previous) v. 4 runs well on W7; didn't try for myself. (These seemingly minor questions matter here since v. 5 to v. 4 compared in functionality instead of specific "doesn't run here, doesn't run there", had been quite a disappointment for almost any user involved, if I remember well - as said, it's been some time since.)

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Scott Youngman I have been using RightNote; the notes are in Rich View format. Can I import RN databases into Ultra Recall? If so, what becomes of the Rich View formatting? Thanks.

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Scott Youngman Does Ultra Recall support Unicode? Thanks.

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Kyle A @Scott Youngman: UR doesn't have a direct import for RN databases, but if RN can export to RTF, XML/OML, or HTML format, you can import the data into UR.

https://kinook.com/UltraR...source.htm

Yes, UR supports Unicode text.

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geo User @Kyle A
Is it possible to download the manual file for offline viewing.
Could not find such a link on the site. Thanks

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Kyle A @geo User: https://kinook.com/Downlo...Recall.pdf

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geo User @Kyle A
Thanks for the quick response, great.

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bvssunnydale Hi, my understanding is that there will probably be no more upgrades to this program (based on previous emails with the developer) - I was wondering if you could confirm or deny? Thanks very much.

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Mariusz Lewandowski @Kyle:
"UR is already pretty well baked, and v6 is not around the corner."

A modern calendar interface for visual planning/analyzing of events would be very much appreciated. I sent you detailed suggestions AFAIR 3 or 5 years ago.

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MrZebulon I like UR and use it since a couple of years.A useful piece of software.
Development seems a bit frozen, no update for over one year.
What I am really missing is a simple possibility to search for double entries. This is a lack of feature for me!
But overall I can recommend UR.

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Sara User You probably mean "for ANY double entries"? For homonyms, you could search for titles like "* (1)", "* (2)", since in fact and afai remember, UR does NOT allow for homonym entries even in subtrees even far away one from the other, which is a big nuisance btw (if that hasn't been changed since; changing this would be easy).

For double content though, that would need some internal script, running at night e.g., I believe; I don't see sql functionality for this, so it would be lots of compares, probably to be sped up by hash values. It's certainly not "standard", and while it'd be perfectly possible, I don't know any such program that'd do it, currently.

(Technically) ditto, and more importantly so afai'm concerned, no trans-item search-and-replace, which would be much needed for many use cases indeed but is rare in that niche of the "industry" (MyInfo incl. 6 has got it, probably because it comes with its (exotic?) database format unknown to me, but MI's developer strives to get pending v. 7 more "standard" (allegedly SQLite then, as is UR's backend), so this functionality will possibly be lost by updating.)

"well baked already" could be a quality statement, or then, a hint at no real further development indeed, since if you leave something "well baked already" in the oven further, it'll carbonize - don't know for sure if that was Kyle's intention here, BUT Kyle's ultra laconic way of communication you see here is the same he offers in his forum, and that harms business, even more so since the help file is written in that very same style, which makes that many a buyer then will only a fraction of UR's functionality, by lack of more explicit explanation, e.g. for user-specific attributes, forms, etc.

Another easy thing to do in UR which has never been attacked, though: Current tree* item is boldened (standard being to change its background color), and that implies that boldening isn't easily available for persistently formatting such entries, ditto for other formattings, but there seems to exist some quite convoluted way to do it if you really need it, but which currently's only available to UR "experts" (see above), and I don't know if once you've "got" it, there are ways to speed it up, for regular use, or if there are not (if boldening or italicising an entry costs 1 minute each time, well...?)

*= technically, it's not a tree but a graph in pseudo-tree representation; functions well but can become unwieldy for really big data repositories, (available) hoisting (pouring sub-graphs into additional "tabs") then facilitating things a little bit, as well as up to 100 bookmarks, but all these navigational issues could have been realized so much user-friendly, with little effort on the developer's side; unfortunately, UR is Kyle's hobby, his main interest being software for developers.

Only half-baked, too, web browser and e-mail integration e.g.: In UR, it's all these micro-developments not followed thru the end of their respective (ideal) paths and the absence of the developer's interest to go that extra tenth of a mile now, too, which is infuriating: You always see the potential for real splendid software, but you always just picture, never experience that.

Now let's be perfectly clear on this: The big majority of today's PIM users wish their stuff being available on the road, too, and traditional 2-pane outliners like UR and its competitors don't offer that, by their architecture ((mostly SQLite) desktop database plus elaborate frontend which displays that sql data in "tree" form).

So in order to fulfill these additional user wishes having come along with mobile phones and slates not working on Windows, additional development efforts more or less from scratch would be needed, and thus, the market for desktop-only information management not growing anymore, Kyle obviously doesn't see market value in additional development.

And while that should be particularly true for elaborate agenda functionality - there, the missing mobile "part" of the system would become even more urgent -, very unfortunately, that has also be true for things like the missing, easy, formatting of "tree" entries: Kyle's disenchantment with that mobile-phone driven PIM market shift becomes infuriatingly blatant there.

EDIT: I was possibly mistaken re the impossible homonyms, perhaps that's only an import phenomenon, and then you could rename identically? Anyway, the items get ID numbers even on import, so I don't see the necessity to rename to "something (1)" to begin with. Also, this reminds me of the fact that whilst search-and-replace for content-parts (i.e. substrings) is no sql functionality, the same for whole (e.g. item title) fields is, but then, even global (or section-/search-result- wise) "titling" replace is not available in UR from what I remember.

As for "global" search-and-replace in content fields, since their content is stored in binary format (this is not a necessity for rtf data, but "standard"), even (otherwise possible) processing the UR file from outside of UR will not do the trick (for non-programmers that is), so for terminology-aware text data (be it technical data or fiction writing or in other use cases), you'd either run external macros on each item within the item sets where (possible) changes are due, or look elsewhere.

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RS It was also my understanding that UR was no longer under development. Toward this end, it should be noted that UR's browser extensions no longer work in Firefox since it switched to the WebExtension format. When I contacted the developer about this last year, I was told that he wasn't even sure if it were possible to create UR's extensions in the new format, but that, in any event, it would require far too much work to do so, given that the development of UR had come to an end. If he has had a change of heart, I would be thrilled to hear of it. Please advise.

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mix624 Hi,

I get a new PC every 2 years so how can I use this software on my new PC when the old has crashed and I reinstall softwares on a new machine ?

The links to the files ETC wont be new on the new machine ?

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Sara User "but that, in any event, it would require far too much work to do so, given that the development of UR had come to an end" - oops! whenever Kyle's a little bit explicit, it promptly falls upon him!

But then, IF this is all so: Why - I asked about this above already:

"Upgrades to future versions of the software will be free for 2 months. For versions after that, upgrades will require additional payment, which will be discounted by 50%. Support is provided up to when the next major version is released." - mind you, there's "future versions" and "versions", and then "versions after that" and "upgrades":

With all due respect, but that's a bloody mess, ultra atypical for Kyle indeed.

I suppose (!) he means "updates within current version 6 are free [or just within 2 months?], upgrade to possible version 6 would be paid though, except within the next 2 months, but since it won't be released within the next 2 months anyway, I don't really why ever I mentioned this" - but what would I know?

"The links to the files ETC wont be new on the new machine ?" - "No activation required" to begin with (I mention this for other users), and then you would have to replicate quite some structures, but then it's perfectly possible (extensive forum info), and even somewhat different folder structures could become possible by external search-and-replace (see above); affected in-line (text) links would break though (see above again).

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Kyle A @mix624: place your .urd file at the root of your files, and links under that folder and subfolders will be created as relative paths, which will transfer to a new machine.

https://kinook.com/UltraR...zation.htm

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Sara User The problem with that strategy being that in Windows, c:\ e.g. is NOT a parent drive to then d:\, e:\, etc.: folder hierarchy within a drive yes, (even optional) drives' hierarchy no. That's the problem in general with today's desktop software (plural): Even replication to a laptop in order for data to become semi-mobile asks for strict observation of rules, and migration from an always growing d:\ drive to e.g. one consolidated volume consisting of several drives brings its specific problems, too.

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Kyle A See

https://superuser.com/a/1020825/20653

https://kinook.com/Forum/...php?t=1669

Kinook Software, Inc. - Sep 19 2018 at 11:08am Copy Link

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RS It appears that Kyle has chosen to ignore the posts of those who have raised the question of whether the development of UR has ended or will continue, given that he has responded to other questions that have not addressed this concern.

If development has ended, then buyers beware: UR has not be updated for more than a year, and some of its features no longer work (e.g., Firefox browser extensions). And, as time goes on, this situation is likely to get worse, absent any assurance that such problems will be resolved.

It is one thing for a developer to decide to forgo newer versions, but quite another to fail to support the functionality of a current version that is being actively marketed for sale, especially absent any such disclosure. Misleading buyers into believing that such support will be forthcoming is as bad as representing on your website that applications are supported by UR when they no longer are (as in the case of Firefox).

I hope that Kyle reconsiders his silence on these matters, and makes it clear where buyers cab expect.

Sep 19 2018 at 3:39pm Copy Link

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Peter Martin You can combine info items but once combined can you split them?

Sep 19 2018 at 3:39pm Copy Link

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Kyle A @Peter Martin: There is not a split command, but you can cut and paste text from one item into another new item.

Kinook Software, Inc. - Sep 19 2018 at 4:02pm Copy Link

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Kyle A @MrZebulon: See 'List items with duplicate URLs' and 'List items with duplicate titles' at

https://kinook.com/Forum/...php?t=2825

Kinook Software, Inc. - Sep 19 2018 at 5:54pm Copy Link

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Kyle A @RS: Development has not ended, but there are no plans at this time to rewrite the Firefox extension. Importing from FF can still be done without the extension.

1) copy/paste
2) drag/drop
3) Ctrl+A, Ctrl+C, keystroke configured at Tools | Options | Import | Import clipboard contents hotkey
or
4) Tools | Quick Options | Import: Automatically import clipboard changes, Ctrl+C.

Kinook Software, Inc. - Sep 19 2018 at 5:58pm Copy Link

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geo User @ Kyle A
What is the proper way to replicate an existing win7 installation into a win10 machine? I guess that would also be 'synchronizing' ?
Thanks.

Sep 19 2018 at 11:41pm Copy Link

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RS Last year, you indicated that it would be far too difficult to rewrite UR's Firefox extension, considering that you weren't planning on developing a new major version. However, if development has not ended, as you now indicate, how can you not resolve the Firefox extension issue, considering that integration with Firefox was a significant feature of UR that no longer works? That doesn't seem like development or support to me, especially given that Firefox is still listed as a supported browser on your website.

I would note that other reference managers have created Firefox extensions using the new WebExtension format, and released them as minor updates. The importing alternatives you offer are not solutions, but workarounds to use while the problem is being resolved. However, for reasons I don't understand in light of your claim that UR development continues, you have chosen to ignore the issue, despite the fact that you've been aware of it for almost two years. It seems to me that an explanation is warranted.

Sep 20 2018 at 1:08am Copy Link

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MrZebulon @ Kyle A
If I regular spend 99 bucks for a professional software, I don't expect that I have to use third party software for missing features(such as deleting items with duplicate URLs' and 'List items with duplicate titles.)
This can't be that hard to implement.
For me all those workarounds (listed above) are signs that the software isn't under development anymore. Just my two cents.

Sep 20 2018 at 1:34am Copy Link

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Sara User "However, for reasons I DON'T UNDERSTAND in light of your claim that UR development continues, you have chosen to ignore the issue, despite the fact that you've been aware of it for almost two years." (my formatting)

Well... ;-) As a probable user (? or just a prospect then and today?), you would know from UR's web forum that that's Kyle's usual habit, from which he makes some exceptions whenever it pleases him.

The ultra irony in all this quarreling over there, and which has been going on for some 20 years or so, is that Kyle's efforts (both in time and nerves) for rejecting ever-anew-upcoming even little demands from his loyal users, again and again over the years, largely outweigh his respective, alternative, REAL investments (in his software that is) he could have made instead, by just sitting down and enter those few lines of code which would have been needed most of the time: 2 hours, 3 with checking, the users are happy again, and it's done with, this way slowly and growly but inexorably perfecting software to the point of it becoming cherished beyond by some maso fan boys!

Those little things mentioned above are perfect examples for the viability of this possible, alternative strategy, instead of continuing to slap customers in their face in such a way a mother would systematically say no, no and no to a child she doesn't love anymore, and yes, it's obvious that we're speaking of lost interest indeed, but completely so.

This does not concern renewed FF integration of course, which would be some real work to do, but then, would have been a real step forward, for any user who's not all too disgusted by all those little things for which Kyle didn't even had 2 or 3 hours' time in the past.

As said above, Kyle doesn't expect too many new users making worth his additional efforts, for the reasons I gave above, and for PIMs' existing userbases, well, (always possible) export isn't that easy, reliable or complete, especially if you used, more or less extensively, the specific goodies any such program may offer on top. Yes, those are then all saved within the db tables, but when they cannot be re-imported elsewhere, you either cut your arm or accept you're stuck for good.

And all this combined puts the real need for further development efforts strongly into perspective - a quite lousy one for the user indeed.

Sep 20 2018 at 4:08am Copy Link

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Kyle A @geo: Copy the .urd file and all other files in that folder and subfolders to the new machine. Install UR. Open the .urd file.

@Sara: Oh how I wish all these "little" things could be accomplished in 2 hours apiece and then everyone would be happy. If only.

Kinook Software, Inc. - Sep 20 2018 at 5:22am Copy Link

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Sara User @Kyle: Yes they can. Example 1, persistent boldening. Tree pane is obviously able to display formatting, and it seems there's a way to get to persistently boldened entries by some indirect way, so you just cut thru that detour and make the - existing - functionality available directly.

Example 2: simple dialogs for things similar to what's listed in your external Sqlite editors link above, e.g. 1) rename (current) title(s) x 2) to title y, for all sub-items of current item: 2 fields for user input, the rest being the simplest sql command code that is.

But that brings up an interesting problem: Since in UR you don't distinguish between "natural parents" and "adoptive parents" (as is done for symlink targets = original files ("natural parents") and their in case multiple symlinks ("adoptive parents"), see your links above) and thus have no barrage against recursion (as neither have implemented your competitors afaik), if the user is somewhat undisciplined when creating clones, many such sql commands could create unwanted effects on graph parts not foreseen by the user triggering the command.

So a "preview pane" becomes necessary, not displaying the final results, but the final selections the (here standardized, not user-amendable) sql command will work on: just a SELECT preview... which is already there, too, since user's got a "hit table"; depending on existing code quality, it'll be easy to streamline the generic functionality of that existing list view functionality by dissecting it from the specific search results functionality.

Then, and again, since those commands / dialogs would be standardized, not extensible by the users' further wishes in every such use case, we would need a "delete the currently-selected record(s) (multi-select of course) from the list view", in order to enable the user to manually discard unwanted "result" records from the set the "real" command, when triggered then, will work upon - again, this is generic preliminary work which then will be useful for "anything" later on.

We agree that making available an sql command line in UR would cause almost immediate destruction of the whole db; even with forced backup before triggering anything else than a simple "select" would have the same effect, mid-term, since users would then work on partially-destructed db's, without becoming aware of it in time. (The same would be true technically for opening the UR db within an external editor for destroying it over there, but this forth-and-back, of course, puts some strong - and deliberate - filter between unwary users and the chaos they could possibly cause.)

But my point is, with quite little preliminary work for making (internally) available the (already existent) sql-access functionality in a generic way, too, then it'll be very little additional effort to implement all sorts of little things indeed, be it for innocuous "selects" anyway, or be it for 2-step commands where the users first preview (and selects) the ultimately affected records, then give their ok for the "real" sql command to be triggered...

and to say it all, and in order to make this perfectly understandable for any user here, too: just the "todo" parameters would be stored from step 1 thru to step 2, whilst the original "select" parameters would be discarded in-between, the new "select" just working on every ID (= record identification) left within the (in case, "reduced") "preview" list view.

From the point in time these preconditions of generic, global, neat availability are met (and, as said, everything needed is there, just possibly more or less "buried" within more specific code), then lots of "little things" become easy and ultra speedy to implement - while it all remaining almost 100 p.c. fool proof for the happy general customer.

Btw, my remarks showcase how ultra important it is to isolate possibly generically useful code from its current specifics, and whilst every developer today strictly observes this rule nowadays, (very) old code parts could sometimes be difficult to uncompress; then, they'd be letter be left alone, while by copy and paste serving as quarry for a generic recode, for all new uses.

Sep 20 2018 at 9:51am Copy Link

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RS Kyle, so I take it that you've chosen to ignore my request for an explanation (in my previous post) as to how you can claim that development and support has not ended on UR, while steadfastly refusing to resolve the issue of Firefox integration, despite the fact that your website continues to claim that Firefox is supported? As I said before, the workarounds you've offered are not solutions.

Of course, if you fail to support changes in Firefox, the second most-used browser, how can we be assured that you will not decide to ignore other changes in other apps in the future? What if Chrome or Microsoft Office were to make changes that limited or eliminated other UR features or functionality? Might you choose to ignore these issues, as well?

If UR is still underdevelopment and/or is actively marketed, you have a duty to support your user base, and resolve such significant issues that arise from the evolution of supported applications. Simply choosing to ignore them, while simultaneously claiming that development and support has not ended, is not only misleading and contradictory, but insulting to your loyal customers who rely upon you to maintain the viability of your product.

Sep 20 2018 at 12:32pm Copy Link

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