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Rick Edwards Can the password file be moved to another computer - an upgrade or a portable? Can the program be installed on two computers (home & portable) with one license if it's only used one one at a time?

Feb 17 2011 at 1:58am Copy Link

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Jamie Phelps Rick, yes, the data file format is interoperable between Mac and Windows and can be synced using Dropbox: http://help.agile.ws/1Pas...opbox.html Our licenses are per human user per platform. You can read more here: http://agilewebsolutions....e/licenses

Hope that helps!

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Agile Web Solutions - Feb 18 2011 at 2:43am Copy Link

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Agile Team If you use 1Password for Windows, you may also want to see these Windows-specific instructions for setting up Dropbox sync'ing:

Getting Started
http://help.agile.ws/1Pas...arted.html

Tutorials - Setting up Dropbox sync
http://help.agile.ws/1Pas...opbox_sync

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David Brown, Customer Care
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Agile Web Solutions - Feb 19 2011 at 4:57am Copy Link

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O I I just tried the 1Password on Windows 7 and I'm impressed especially with the Firefox add-on. 1Password looks like a good product and good deal on BDJ.

However, I want to ask the following questions:

1. I don't see upgrade options on your store. Should I purchase a full license to upgrade 1Password Mac/Win to the next major release?
2. I want to sync databases, between my home and work Windows machines, but using a secure USB flash drive (not Dropbox). Can I just merge two agilekeychain databases?
3. I need to open certain Login locations in IE instead of Firefox which is my default browser. Can I do this? (In KeePass I can enter cmd://{INTERNETEXPLORER} "URL").
4. I want to shrink the 1Password dialog as small as possible, but the Toolbar seems to block this. Can I customize Toolbar (use small icons, hide it, hide groups, etc.)?
5. I see that Titles of entries are stored in clear text. Thus someone may see all sites that have login info. Is that a bug?
6. Help states that you use AES-128 encryption, why not AES-256?

Thanks,

Feb 19 2011 at 10:12am Copy Link

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Agile Team Hi, O I.

If you have a 1Password for Windows license and want to add 1Password for Mac reasonably soon afterwards, we can usually help with that. Just contact us at support

agile.ws.

1Password currently doesn't include a "merge" feature. Even if it did, it wouldn't provide true sync'ing, but a one-time, manual "snapshot" of your 1Password data that you'd have to remember to maintain on separate platforms. On a related note, 1Password for Mac doesn't support storing your data on a removable drive. We offer Dropbox as the automatic, hands-free way to share and sync your 1Password data among all your Macs, PCs, and mobile devices (iOS, Android, and Windows Phone 7).

1Password doesn't support item-specific browser preferences. In 1Password for Windows, you specify the browser with which you want to open all your Logins when triggered from within the program. Of course, you can always launch a specific browser, and then press Ctrl+\ to invoke 1Password's "go and fill login" function.

The 1Password dialog box that appears when you click the 1P button in your browser's toolbar, like the 1Password program window, has a fixed set of tools in the toolbar.

The only fields that are unencrypted are those that are accessible through the history function of your browser, anyway. There's been a lot of discussion of this design decision, lately, and we're considering additional options in some future release of our 1Password products. At present, we recommend simply not storing confidential data (like usernames) in the titles of your Logins and other saved items.

Googling for "128-bit AES vs 256-bit AES" I found explanations that the Earth hasn't existed for as many years as it would take to crack 128-bit encryption.

For both of these security-related questions, you may find this article informative:
http://help.agile.ws/1Pas...urity.html

I hope that helps, O I.
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Agile Web Solutions - Feb 19 2011 at 11:06am Copy Link

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Stephane M Hi,
Will the discount be offered on 1Password for Windows as well?
Thanks!

Feb 19 2011 at 11:56am Copy Link

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Agile Team I believe so, Stephane.
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Agile Web Solutions - Feb 19 2011 at 1:43pm Copy Link

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@Stephanie, Yes It's Mac & PC, We wrote it in the massive title at the top of the page and in three other places!

BitsDuJour Admin - Feb 19 2011 at 2:19pm Copy Link

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Stephane M Hi Nico, yes I know it's for Mac & PC, it's big enough in the title and I can read :)
But this offer is the 1Password Mac + Windows bundle.
I was talking about 1 license for the 1Password for Windows only!
Thanks.

Feb 19 2011 at 2:51pm Copy Link

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O I Hello David,
Thank you for your answers.

My first question was if a paid upgrade will be available when you release the next major release of 1Password. I don't see any upgrade options on your store i.e. from v1 or v2 to v3 for Mac, so that's why I asked that.

As of syncing of my home and work databases through a USB flash drive, I found that if I sort keys by "Modified" column I will be able to update recently changed items manually. In this case I miss the option to open two instances of 1Password for Windows, but may be 1PasswordAnywhere will help here. Also, I'm not sure why Export and Copy commands are disabled for non-login entries.

Anyway, I decided to switch from KeePass to 1Password mainly due to the browser integration of 1Password.

Thanks,

Feb 20 2011 at 4:39am Copy Link

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Agile Team Hi, O I.

There should be an upgrade option for 1Password for Mac in our online store (https://agilewebsolutions...e/standard). 1Password for Windows is too new to have a version to upgrade *from*, though. :D When there's a 2.0 release, I feel sure there'll be an upgrade option for it and, presumably for the bundle, too.

We believe sync'ing is the most convenient solution for the greatest number of 1Password users, which is why we're so happy with Dropbox, at this time. There are some technical reasons why 1Password for Mac can't store its data on a removable drive, not to mention the fact that it would make Dropbox sync'ing impossible.

1Password for Mac has robust and complete import and export capabilities, but import and export in 1Password for Windows is currently limited to Logins and in only a few file formats. We realize that's an inconvenience to many customers, and even a roadblock to some. I don't have any information at this time about when such an improvement might become available, though.

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Agile Web Solutions - Feb 20 2011 at 5:23am Copy Link

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Ray Costanzo Does anyone know if there is a way to get this software to recognize Pale Moon as my "Firefox" browser on Windows?

Feb 21 2011 at 4:42pm Copy Link

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Stephane M Hi,
Is there a portable version of the 1Password for Windows?
Are you planning to add Logins for software (not only Web-based application or forms) like RoboForm does?
Thanks.

Feb 21 2011 at 6:42pm Copy Link

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Agile Team Ray, I don't have any information on Pale Moon as an alternative browser (other than the fact that it's not tested by us), but you might find something in our support forum:

http://forum.agile.ws/ind...r-windows/

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David Brown, Customer Care
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Agile Web Solutions - Feb 21 2011 at 6:56pm Copy Link

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Agile Team Stephane, there are no plans to create a "portable" version of the 1Password executable. You can read about what to do when you're away from your computer in this article from the "FAQ" section of the user's guide:

http://help.agile.ws/1Pas...om-PC.html

1Password is intended to help you fill and submit forms (typically login forms) in your web browser. 1Password does include a nifty auto-type feature that might help you fill other forms, as described in this article, also from the "FAQ" section of the user's guide:

http://help.agile.ws/1Pas...-type.html

I hope that helps.

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David Brown, Customer Care
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Agile Web Solutions - Feb 21 2011 at 7:00pm Copy Link

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Frank Stephens I'm looking for 64-bit support, I would prefer to use 64-bit browsers on a 64-bit OS. The support for mobile devices and Dropbox are nice features, but basic browser integration is lacking. I'm presently using Sticky Password (32-bit only at present), which automatically fills out login forms without any user interaction and doesn't require any toolbars, which is handy for IE9. The lack of a portable version (for a given platform) is also an oversight. A Sticky Password license is for one computer plus a portable version, which I've had to use several times when my preferred computer was down. I really wish that everyone would boost the priority of 64-bit support.

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DrTeeth @ Frank

64 bit native support is overrated. Somne 32 bit apps are faster than their 64 bit versions. Many 64 bit versions are only made as people want them thinking that they are 'better'.

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Software Guy Nico, please don't flame Stephanie for asking. Just a few days ago you advertised a slideshow program for mac and windows, but it was really only for mac and not for windows. The software said for mac and windows, but was NOT! So I don't blame her one bit for asking.

Feb 21 2011 at 11:35pm Copy Link

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charles hedbring Woah! Slow down dem horses cowboy! The barroom "deal" here is NOT $29.95 from $59.95 mellow mates. It is a wimpy markdown on the website on the Windows version from $39.95. Unless my one room schoolhouse teach was dumb as dirt, let the peeps know that this is a marginal "deal" at best and false ad at worse. OK, gotta get back on my horse and go looking for more scams (err, "errors"). "Hi-oh Silver...away!!!"
DR Charles Hedbring, programsteppe.com

Feb 21 2011 at 11:45pm Copy Link

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Mark Fuss Stephane M, if you go to https://agilewebsolutions.com/store you will see the BDJ pricing on all of the 1Password products. 1Password for Windows is $14.96 for a single user license and $24.96 for a 5 user Family license.

Feb 22 2011 at 12:07am Copy Link

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C J Charles: The only "error" here is your lack of reading ability. This deal includes a license for Mac and Windows, which is $59.95 on the developer's website. I guess you're the one dumb as dirt.

Feb 22 2011 at 12:15am Copy Link

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Stephanie, sorry for the confusion and if I spoke out of turn, and Charles I think you've misunderstood the deal that we have here!

This is for "1Password Mac + Windows bundle" NOT a single license for just the Windows or just the Mac product!

- And please no name-calling -

BitsDuJour Admin - Feb 22 2011 at 12:22am Copy Link

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Stephane M Yes I saw the different licenses in the Agile store today, thanks Mark Fuss.

Nico, there is no problem and I guess you were answering to me "Stephane".

Feb 22 2011 at 12:39am Copy Link

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Stephane M @David Teare
Thanks for your answers.

Feb 22 2011 at 12:40am Copy Link

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Greg Bryant @Mark Fuss

Mark,

Could you check your link? When I follow it I see the single user Windows license is $29.95 and the family license is $49.95

Greg B

Feb 22 2011 at 12:49am Copy Link

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@Stephane Yes I was, and please put any typos down to being up all night again with my brand new 2 month old!

BitsDuJour Admin - Feb 22 2011 at 1:16am Copy Link

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Mark Fuss Greg B,

That is odd, but you are correct. If you click the "Buy Now" button on the BDJ site and then click "Remove" in the shopping cart page that opens, you will be taken to the link in my original post, but with the BDJ discount prices being shown. When I made my original post, I simply copied the address in my browser address bar, so I have no idea why the prices are shown differently. Thanks for pointing this out, as I would not want to mislead anyone, just trying to be helpful.

Feb 22 2011 at 1:32am Copy Link

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Agile Team Mark, Greg, et al:

Please note that you need to click on the big green Buy Now button in the upper left corner of this page to get the 50% discount . It'll take you to https://agilewebsolutions...bitsdujour

Once you're there, you can remove the 1Password for Mac + Windows single-user bundle license; you'll be taken to our store page, modified to show the 50% discount on all of our products.

We apologize for the inconvenience.

NOTE: The posts in this thread that show my name in the "sig" lines are actually from me, not from AWS co-founder Dave Teare. I don't know why the Bits du Jour site admin has changed the post attributes to show Dave's name.

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Agile Web Solutions - Feb 22 2011 at 3:01am Copy Link

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Thomas W This application is one of the best app at my macbook pro. Very useful for managing password and other secret data. A very fast open of webaccounts by the browser plugins of 1Password. With other words... GREAT!

Feb 22 2011 at 3:09am Copy Link

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Agile Team Thanks, Thomas!

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Agile Web Solutions - Feb 22 2011 at 3:12am Copy Link

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Ray Costanzo I'm really liking this. I just recently gave up on Roboform after using it for many years and was trying other solutions. I found one that was okay, but it still just didn't feel right to me. This magically showed up at the perfect time, and I happily made my purchase.

Thank you

Feb 22 2011 at 3:18am Copy Link

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Agile Team Thanks, Ray!

I think "magic" may have just become my new favorite description of 1Password. :)

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Agile Web Solutions - Feb 22 2011 at 3:28am Copy Link

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Dennis Reinhardt I tried to click on your link for iOS (https://agilewebsolutions.com/store) when editing my cart. I got a repeating redirect. I was using IE8 under Win 7 32. Do I need to be on an iDevice?

Feb 22 2011 at 5:00am Copy Link

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Agile Team Ray, I just tried that URL in ID on Windows XP; I did see a message about being redirected to the Agile store, but the result was as expected: I was on the "cart" page with the bundle license pre-loaded.

What happens if you click on the Buy Now button at the top of this Bits du Jour page?

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Agile Web Solutions - Feb 22 2011 at 6:26am Copy Link

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Tore Hoyem Hi.

Opera is my web browser of choice.
Any chance of your product supporting Opera any time soon?

Feb 22 2011 at 6:33am Copy Link

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O I I purchased 1Password hoping that Agile Team will soon release the ".1p4" fully encrypted format for both platforms. The current partial encryption is just not enough for a security product, so I will keep important passwords in KeePass until the new format arrival.

Thanks,

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Agile Team Tore, we understand that Opera has made some improvements to its API, and we hope that trend continues so that we might be able to look again at the possibility of integrating 1Password with Opera in some future release.

To be clear, though, there's no information about *whether* (much less when) a 1Password extension for Opera might become available.

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Agile Web Solutions - Feb 22 2011 at 8:08am Copy Link

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Agile Team O I, we understand there are some who disagree with our decision to improve performance by leaving URLs and item titles unencrypted, and that's one of the modifications we're considering for the data storage format.

That said, I don't have any information about precisely what those modifications might entail or when they might become available.

In the meantime, be assured that no confidential information is unencrypted in the current data storage format.

I hope that helps.

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David Brown, Customer Care
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Agile Web Solutions - Feb 22 2011 at 8:12am Copy Link

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Jeffrey Goldberg Hi, O.

You are correct that 1Password leaves unencrypted the same kind of information that can be found in browser bookmarks. This design was done so that for everything else, we only had to decrypt the smallest amount of information needed at any one time. When 1Password is unlocked, everything remain encrypted except for the specific item you are using. This is a subtle security feature that isn't very visible to users. But if you go to our Knowledge Base article on cloud storage security you can find all of the details.

But as we move more toward life in the Cloud, we know that leaving information like the URL and title unencrypted is something we need to change. We will have that completely in place by the time of 1Password 4 (sorry, no date on that), and will probably have it available even before 1Password version 4 is released.

Cheers,

-j

Jeffrey Goldberg for the Agile Team.

Agile Web Solutions - Feb 22 2011 at 8:31am Copy Link

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S B Mr. Goldberg,

I personally don't like the idea of having links and tags unencrypted. Yes, "Unencrypting as little as possible at a time" is a great goal, though irrelevent here. I'm surprised that you seem to be arguing that a good way to uncrypt as little as possible at a time is to leave these things unencrypted!

The references you supplied makes silly statements about the relative security of 128/256-bit keys. Your references suggest the real reason for your choosing 128-bit encryption is that you're worried about small cell phones not having the horsepower to handle 256-bit AES. Seems silly, you're not encrypting that much.

128-bit AES may be much more than adequate, but 256-bit AES *is* required by the government for extreme circumstances. Your statement "Googling for '128-bit AES vs 256-bit AES' I found explanations that the Earth hasn't existed for as many years as it would take to crack 128-bit encryption" is both naive and fatuous, and I trust that you're much better than that.

Real security requires good key management, and I'm happy to infer from the reference to PBKDF2 that you're using an RSA security suite, though the SSL reference makes me wonder.

Thank you for your responsiveness.

Alas, I'll have to pass on this one.

Feb 22 2011 at 2:14pm Copy Link

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Agile Team Hi, S B.

I don't think tags are unencrypted-only the URLs of Logins and whatever titles (names) you decide to give the items. Personally, I don't mind that someone knows I have an Oregon driver's license, a MasterCard, and an account at First Technology Credit Union, as long as they don't know anything confidential about those items. As I wrote above, though, "we understand there are some who disagree with our decision to improve performance by leaving URLs and item titles unencrypted, and that's one of the modifications we're considering for the data storage format."

The comment about googling for 128-bit vs 256-bit encryption was from me, not Jeff. I did that, early on, because I was curious about the arguments for one and the other. I'm not sure how to respond to your comment about fatuousness and naïveté...I truly don't think I'll mind if someone finally cracks my 128-bit encrypted data in a few million years.

As I wrote above, "In the meantime, be assured that no confidential information is unencrypted in the current data storage format."

I hope that helps, S B.

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Agile Web Solutions - Feb 22 2011 at 2:45pm Copy Link

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Daniel Goldman Crap, I missed it.

Nov 14 2011 at 8:31pm Copy Link

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Agile Team I'm generally sorry to hear that, Daniel.

Specifically, though, *what* did you miss?

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Agile Web Solutions - Nov 15 2011 at 3:47pm Copy Link

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Daniel Goldman Oh, I stumbled on this deal on BitsDuJour and I wrote this long and detailed thing about how 1Password is awesome and that I use it several times daily, and how if you do any kind of web development it's a must have to keep all the crap needed for every client straight. Literally the thing was like super long. Then I realized that this particular deal was from February. So I deleted it and wrote "crap, I missed it". When doing so I was referring to the deal, but not so much that I had missed purchasing it, but I missed the opportunity to sing the praises of 1password...

Nov 15 2011 at 5:09pm Copy Link

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Roger Thomasson @ Daniel

Sing away! The deal isn't live of course, but as in your case people do occasionally end up on this page :-)

Best!

-r

BitsDuJour Admin - Nov 15 2011 at 5:18pm Copy Link

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Yudha Yan Kusuma Would love the ability to add a new template (wallet type.. etc), add a new field, unlimited field and editable field name. Portable drive edition would be very handy.

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Agile Team Thanks for the explanation, Daniel. I got a notification of the post you referred to and was pretty confused when I couldn't find it here. :)

We're happy to hear nice things about 1Password, though, and you never know when another deal might come along.

Thanks so much for using 1Password!

Agile Web Solutions - Nov 15 2011 at 11:21pm Copy Link

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Agile Team Yudha, I don't know of any effort underway to create a version that runs on a portable drive. We think the "1PasswordAnywhere" feature built into 1Password provides sufficient portability, especially if you're using Dropbox to share and sync your 1Password data among multiple devices, because the 1PasswordAnywhere file (1Password.html) is automatically accessible on your private Dropbox web site from anywhere that has an Internet connection, making it even more convenient than a portable drive.

We've looked into various customization possibilities, and I'm sure some of them will make their way into 1Password in some future version. it's no small undertaking, though, because it'll require a simultaneous change to all the platform versions. To set your expectations, there is no information about what features might be implemented or when they might become available.

It helps to be reminded, occasionally, of features our customers would find useful, so thanks for letting us know!

Agile Web Solutions - Nov 15 2011 at 11:27pm Copy Link

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Alex Tadeu Ribeiro Borges Hello! Is there any chance of one new offer from you again? Thanks.

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egmweb Pleaseeeeeeee we need to have this deal back!!!

BDJ please make this happens.

Regards,

egmweb

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m User Am I missing something or is this only for 3 month free trial??

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Jon Spain Yes, I was taken to a $4,99 monthly offer, not free. BdJ, what is going on, please?

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Constantin Florea @Jon Spain, I just tested the purchase flow and noticed that in the page where I was directed to get the deal, the $4.99 price per month is mentioned however below that section there is the text "Sign up today for 3 months free" and under that text there is the "Get Started" button.

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Jon Spain Thank you Constantim so it is a 3-months trial, not what it says on tin?

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Arlene Manduca Constantin Florea. My comment was deleted.

I've purchased a good number of items from the vendors here. Bitsdujour gives away free software. It's not just so developers can direct us to the same trial on their website. Bitsdujour users don't appreciate a few months of a trial. Learning new software is a front end load of time and effort.

Factual comments about deals or products (which aren't rude) shouldn't be deleted.

Many members here have followers. They can easily make comments in software forums, and on IT siteis with much a bigger audience. Please be fair with BDJ members. Thank you.

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Dennis Johnson While they clearly state, "After you purchase (for $0) 1Password for Mac and Windows, it may be used for 3 months." I'm a little more than hesitant to include their required credit card information. Since it can only be used 3 months, why do they need my credit card information?

Jan 22 2019 at 5:47am Copy Link

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Murderhead This offer seems only valid for new costumers.

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Peter Gabriel Like so many developers nowadays !Password has decided to go the subscription route. I use the desktop version, now sadly defunct as far as development is concerned, which is a pity because it was ( and still is in my case) an excellent bit of software.

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Doug Atkinson I've heard good things about 1Password as far as password managers go. Today's offer is disappointing, however, as this deal is exactly the same as if you go to the 1Password website - where you can get 3 months for free. Bits-duJour isn't adding any value as they normally do. 1Password probably needs your credit card because if you don't cancel at the end of 3 months, they will then start charging your the $4.99 per month fee.

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Richard User If you can complete evaluation in a month, it appears you can do so without giving up your credit card info. Just click the 'Website' link above; click the button (Try 1Password FREE) at top-right; and keep going. (Windows requires Chrome, Firefox or Opera) You will be asked for your name and an email address; to choose individual or Family Plan (or Team or Business under the other tab); to enter a code sent to your email addr. On the credit card screen that follows, click 'Add your card later'. Next you create a master password, and are told you must remember it (so why does the vendor need it?). After a couple more screens you will have created an account, have your 'Secret Key' and can download the software and start to play. (That's as far as I got, so I can't say when 'later' comes and I must enter my card info. Hope it's in about 29 days.) Remember that the vendor has both your Master Password and the 'Secret Key', so if you didn't want to share your credit card number you may not want to enter creds for your bank, retirement acct, PayPal, etc.

I suspect BdJ and 1Password share blame for the Fine Print items that likely don't apply to this or any other subscription license:
- Upgrades to future versions of the software will be free for minor versions only.
- Support is provided up to when the next major version is released.

Must family members all reside at same location, or can I include my grown (and gone) kids on a Family license?

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Lazar Voin The best Password program is still "Roboform", for 5 years goes for about $8 a year for a bundle! Works across all your devices! My 2c.

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Jon Spain It is disappointing that the developer has not felt like writing anything here.

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Great News! Agile Web Solutions has agreed to extend this deal for another day - Enjoy!

BitsDuJour Admin - Jan 23 2019 at 12:11am Copy Link

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Robert Hare Thanks for the heads up on it being only a three-month trial. I will likely take a pass on this. Can you imagine the difficulty of after three months of creating very complex passwords choosing to NOT renew and then trying to retrieve (recall) all those funky passwords?

And ~$60.00 per year, year after year after year sounds like an awfully steep price to pay what I could accomplish by storing my PWs in a text file and then 'hiding' them from snooping software in a PW protected RAR file for free (or am I missing something fundamental here)?

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Doug Atkinson Robert - password managers offer several improvements over storing passwords in an encrypted text file such as 1) ability to categorize passwords (important when you have hundreds); 2) When you decrypt the text file, you have an unencrypted temporary file that does not go completely away when you close it, or delete it in a "normal" fashion; 3) Similarly for memory management when you copy and paste that password - most managers only keep the password in memory for a temporary period; 4) Programs like 1Password work on iOS, Android and let you synchronize your passwords across all your devices and access them from anywhere. Those are just off the top of my head.

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Q If you look at the price 14.97$, it equals 3 months at 4.99$/month. Regardless, it should not be classified as 'free'. I am not sure who is at fault here but BitsDuJour should have checked the link before making it available to the mass. It is not a correct representation of BitsDuJour who are (to my recollections) very frank and true with their free giveaways (gently said!)
May this incorrect link be a lesson for future free giveaways. 1Password should be make aware of this mistake or erroneous advertisement (gently said!)

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Dennis Johnson I just hope that this "offer" does not encourage other developers from doing something similar.

I'm really surprised that BDJ has allowed this to continue. I've been coming here for over a dozen years. And this is the most disturbing offer I've seen to date.

Jan 23 2019 at 1:06pm Copy Link

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Robert Hare I appreciate Doug's comments, and whilst 'true' the only way someone without physical access to my desktop computer could ever hope to get to those phantom temporary text files stored in memory unencrypted for a limited amount of time is if I was infested (or infected if you prefer) with key stroke loggers and worse (which would mean I have much bigger problems than trying to recall or create passwords). I am leaning far more towards Kioumars' and Dennis' interpretations.
Personally, I continue to believe that this is clearly NOT a "100% discounted" or 'free' for a limited time utility or program. It's trial-ware at full price (a 0% discount), IMHO.

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Great News! Agile Web Solutions has agreed to extend this deal for another day - Enjoy!

BitsDuJour Admin - Jan 24 2019 at 12:11am Copy Link

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Neostar For those wondering, you can buy the standalone version of 1Password without the yearly subscription, just install it and then instead of clicking on trial, go up to file and select purchase and a large popup should appear and in small text it should say " Want a licence. We have those too" click it and you can buy it for $49.99 standalone no subscription

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ymar I've been a happy user of 1Password for many years, purchasing many upgrades along the way. But I refuse to rent software. Unfortunately, Agile has gone that route AND priced themselves out of the market at the same time. This "free" offer is no deal at all.

So, sadly, I will moving on to some other alternative once 1Password 6 becomes unusable.

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Great News! Agile Web Solutions has agreed to extend this deal for another day - Enjoy!

BitsDuJour Admin - Jan 25 2019 at 12:11am Copy Link

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Arlene Manduca Neostar - That's an great observation "...you can buy it for $49.99 standalone no subscription." A good marketing idea would be to offer the $49.99 permanent license at a nice discount. It would encourage interested people to take the 3 month trial. That way it doesn't seem like a weak offering. It's an extended trial. ALSO the developer should offer a permanent license discount AGAIN after the 3 month trial is over. Happy customers can move up, if they are not up for $60.00 per year. This will address concerns that after 3 months your passwords are locked without a subscription. It would be great for the developer to explain in detail the advantage of the monthly subscription over a license so buyers understand the benefit.There's been a good deal if interest in this offering, no matter how it started. Take advantage of it, convert watchers into customers. Bitsum Process Lasso is an excellent product. They also sell by word of mouth. Their tremendous customer service and engagement is amazing. They're superfast at answering any questions, even in a free giveaway! They care! It's a technical product for sophisticated users (not an easy crowd to please) and they do a fabulous job. They give away Process Lasso here. <3 .

Jan 25 2019 at 3:46am Copy Link

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Dennis McKay After reading some of the comments about being able to buy it for a one time payment I decided to try it. Unfortunately when I click on Get the Deal it takes me to a page telling me it is redirecting me and then takes me to: http://www.anrdoezrs.net/...sid=100001 where I receive and error message that it can't find the IP address for http://www.anrdoezrs.net. I have tried five different browsers and get the same results in each one.

Jan 25 2019 at 10:15am Copy Link

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Dennis McKay Since I couldn't download it from Get the Deal, and you won't post my post so I can get any help, I went to the website and downloaded the 30 day trial version. It won't run. It installs into the AppData folder, where 99.9% of all malware tries to run from and which IT Security has restricted. So none of our systems at work nor at home, if they use the work install, will run 1Password. How stupid can a developer get!

Jan 25 2019 at 10:16am Copy Link

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Richard User $60/year is for a family license - 5 persons (and you can add a sixth for another $1/month). An individual license is $36/year. These are payable up front. As it clearly states on the purchase page, $49 buys you a single-user license for 1Password v7 for Windows. Not clear whether you can install it on one PC or all your PCs. (May be available also for Mac OS, but I'm not shown that option on a Windows PC.)
What you don't get is use on your other devices: iOS, Android, ChromeOS (Chromebook), Linux. And there is no non-subscription Family plan.

Also, contrary to what is stated in BdJ Fine Print, with a subscription you get the updates/upgrades released during the subscription period and (I assume) product support.

The link 'Full License' in the Fine Print is bad:
http://agilewebsolutions....e/licenses just goes to the main 1password.com page. There's no obvious route from there to the license page. Search for 'license' or 'eula' on the support page produced nothing. After 30 minutes of hunting about I finally located the license at
https://1password.com/leg...f-service/
I had gone to the 'Contact Us' page to ask where to find it, and noticed at the bottom a link to Privacy Policy https://1password.com/legal/privacy/
I removed privacy/ and got the EULA.
BTw, there is a chattier page about privacy at https://1password.com/privacy/

A quick review of the license reveals nothing about the benefits of the single-user (non-subscription) license, except that "Some parts of the Service are billed on a subscription basis". Nothing about updates for a fixed period or until next major version. Nothing about upgrades discounted for existing licenses. No indication of whether software can be installed on all PCs owned/used by licensee. But of course we are told that the service may be discontinued at any time. It gives me the impression that the software works only as long as they offer the service - that you can't manage your data locally in perpetuity (with a non-subscription license) even if Agile Bits drops support or goes out of business.

I ran the installer, expecting the usual drill: welcome screen, accept EULA, choose features if applicable, confirm where software will be installed (and perhaps override that) and be informed of how much space it will consume, options for creating shortcuts, then start installing. Instead I saw a few lines written to my cmd window, including one showing that some files were installed to C:\Users\(usrname)\AppData\Local\1Password, and ending with 'Installation successful! All I wanted was to view the EULA and then quit.

A window appears, evidently the running program, with options to 'Start my trial', 'sign in to 1Password.com' or 'Sync using folder' and a popup showing that software had been updated to 7.3.657. The page from which you can purchase the standalonw license is accessed by clicking '1Password' in the Menu/Title bar, then choosing 'License...'.

I found in the directories headed by ...\AppData\Local\1Password eight files consuming 19,071,940 bytes. ...\app\7 two .exe, one .dll, two .json; in ...\data one 500KB .sqlite file; in \logs\setup an 800 byte .log file documenting the setup. I see no files installed under \Program Files or \Program Files (x86), including the \Common dir under each. Haven't examined the registry.

Jan 25 2019 at 10:17am Copy Link

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Great News! Agile Web Solutions has agreed to extend this deal for another day - Enjoy!

BitsDuJour Admin - Jan 26 2019 at 12:11am Copy Link

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Robert Hare With all due respect, this offer has been here going into its 5th or 6th day in a row now, and I see no one (including myself) having a change of heart as to whether or not it is limited 'full cost' trial-ware or a genuinely free offer (which it absolutely is not). Telling us we can alternately spend $50.00 for a single user license (again, presumably at the normal full price for same) that doesn't time out *still* doesn't make this a 'free' offer. My biggest beef is that it is being (repeatedly) presented as something it clearly is not.

To BDJ personnel: Is there any way to 'filter out' this and other future offers of this program once we have replied to this thread?

Jan 26 2019 at 8:58am Copy Link

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Cary Adams I've been using BitWarden. It's open source; free for all practical purposes; offers 2FA; and you can run it on your private cloud if you are so inclined. Overall it can do anything that 1Password is capable of.

Otherwise I use KeePass for local password control.

Why rent software that houses your passwords? I don't see anything good that can come from that. Otherwise 1Password does what it says.

Jan 26 2019 at 8:59am Copy Link

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Fred Hall Does BitWarden work on Mac, PC, and iOS?

Jan 26 2019 at 9:36am Copy Link

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Fred Hall @Robert Hare - you're also probably not seeing a bunch of other messages that BDJ has been deleting (like mine from yesterday) when they are being called out for this deceptive practice. This will probably also be deleted, but BDJ folks: FREE means FREE unless you explicitly say "Free TRIAL"

Jan 26 2019 at 9:36am Copy Link

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Neostar @Fred Hall - I think it's because they are offering an extra 2 months free on top of the usual 1 month trial

Jan 26 2019 at 11:42am Copy Link

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Dennis McKay Fred Hall. Yes. Do you know how to use a search engine?

Jan 26 2019 at 12:34pm Copy Link

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Constantin Florea While it is true that there is already a 1 month free trial on the product website, by participating in this offer you get 3 free months of using the product.

BitsDuJour Admin - Jan 26 2019 at 1:07pm Copy Link

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Great News! Agile Web Solutions has agreed to extend this deal for another day - Enjoy!

BitsDuJour Admin - Jan 27 2019 at 12:11am Copy Link

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