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What are people saying about Brilliant Database Pro

Alan Under Features in Brief on the website, it says that many users can use the database at the same time. When I look at the Compare Versions, it describes a "Server" version.. Is this needed to make it support multiple users??
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Jun 17 2010 at 12:34am Copy Link
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FRank King iS THIS A RELATIONAL OR FLAT DATABASE? WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF RECORS AND FIELDS? wHAT DO YOU OFFER IN TERMS OF AFTER SALES SUPPORT?
Jun 22 2010 at 3:35am Copy Link
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Jim J. Does the database have API function calls from standard programming languages such as C# or any other language?
Jun 23 2010 at 10:57pm Copy Link
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Mikhail Lishin >it describes a "Server" version.. Is this needed to make it support >multiple users??
Yes, the Server version has multi-user support.

>Does the Brilliant Database Ultimate allow a person to only create
>single user applications that can be distributed?
No, you can create multi-user applications with Ultimate as well.
Binary Brilliant Inc - Jun 24 2010 at 12:10am Copy Link
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Mikhail Lishin >iS THIS A RELATIONAL OR FLAT DATABASE?
Yes

>WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OFRECORS AND FIELDS?
100000 per folder, about 5000.

>wHAT DO YOU OFFER IN TERMS OF AFTER SALES SUPPORT?
One year free upgrades, support via e-mail.
Binary Brilliant Inc - Jun 24 2010 at 12:13am Copy Link
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Frank King I am not clear if this is a relational database such as Access or a flat file database sucg as Microsoft Works?
Jun 24 2010 at 12:27am Copy Link
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Mikhail Lishin >such as Access or a flat file database sucg as Microsoft Works?
Such as Access
Binary Brilliant Inc - Jun 24 2010 at 12:57am Copy Link
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Frank King Thank you. I have downloaded the trial version and am tremendously impressed by what I seen when I tried it. How long will iot be on sale or will the sale price apply when I convert from the trial in a few days? I need some more time to evbaluate this and determine if the company or I will pay for it.
Jun 24 2010 at 1:02am Copy Link
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Mark Fuss Does this work with Windows 7? I just installed it and it crashes when I try to run it.
Jun 24 2010 at 1:26am Copy Link
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Mikhail Lishin >Does this work with Windows 7?
Yes, normally it works fine.
Binary Brilliant Inc - Jun 24 2010 at 1:27am Copy Link
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Roger Thomasson @ Frank Bits du Jour offers it's discounts for a 24-hour period.  Check out our about page for more info: http://www.bitsdujour.com/about/ -roger
BitsDuJour Admin - Jun 24 2010 at 1:38am Copy Link
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Theo Smith Have been using Paradox DB.  Can I import tables from Paradox and MS Access?  Can I sort on several fields in a record?
Jun 24 2010 at 7:19am Copy Link
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Mikhail Lishin >Have been using Paradox DB.  Can I import tables from Paradox and
>MS Access? 
From Ms Access - yes, from Paradox DB - no.

>Can I sort on several fields in a record?
Yes, select "Folder->Sort Records..."
Binary Brilliant Inc - Jun 24 2010 at 8:01am Copy Link
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warren gray Will you be offering the Ultimate version in future deals?
Jun 24 2010 at 4:28pm Copy Link
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Roger Thomasson @ Warren There are no plans to offer the Ultimate version at this time. -roger
BitsDuJour Admin - Jun 25 2010 at 1:39am Copy Link
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peter schleifer From the screenshots, I cannot make up my mind, and I have no time to build up a trial database to find out on myself, so I put my question(s) here:

1) Is it right that RECORDS are listed in the tree? So if I have 1,000 records, I can browse them all within the tree?

2) Can I subdivide this big tree into several subtrees, by making GROUPS, out of field contents, and then those groups are listed as headings in the tree? Very basic example (in real life, it would be dozens/hundreds of such groups):

1,000 customers/prospects, in 3 towns, A, B, C. Now in their records, there is a field "town", with, as content, either A, B or C (naturally). Now, can I see my tree with headings A, B and C, and which can be collapsed or expanded, e.g. in the form town A is expanded and shows all 200 customers in town B, whilst headings/towns B and C are both collapsed, so I just see the headings B and C, without their listed records (I would see them listed if I expanded those headings, too)? Is this right, or do I have wrong assumptions here?

2a) If 2) is right, can I expand more than one heading/town, concurrently, or will I have to "close"/collapse heading A, in order for heading B to be expanded? (Let me say I would be happy with both alternatives here.)

3) If the above is true: Can these trees be built up for different fields, alternatively? Again my 1,000 customers/prospects in 3 towns, but now I want to group them, in the tree, for a different aspect, let's say size, let's make it simple: 4 groups: Big customer, small customer, potentially big prospect, prospect who's potentially a small customer only: let's call these categories "1", "2", "3" and "4".

Now the same as above, 4 headings for these 4 groups of customers/prospects in the tree, independent of their location in town A, B, C.

If the above is possible, this also would be possible, right? And for other fields, I could certainly build up other alternative trees. But what about the EASE of building up such alternative trees, and what about "STORAGE" of such alternative "tree views": Can I "store" those views in some way and then switch between those, or do I have to make several steps for building up the "new" tree, every time?

4) Can I COMBINE such views, i.e., in the above example, can I have a tree where there will be 3 headings for towns, A, B, C, and then, under each town = such heading, "sub-headings for the above categories 1/2/3/4? In such an example, the category A would contain categories 1, 2, 3 and 4, and then, under category 2, e.g., there would be those 30 customers that are in town A AND are real but small customers; the same for the other categories: A 1 2 3 4, then B 1 2 3 4, then C 1 2 3 4.

4) If 4) is possible, is it also possible to combine MORE THAN 2 categories in this kind: How many? In other words, what indentation level in the tree would be possible?

It goes without saying that my above question of possible storage of alternative views is of real interest here, since if you combine such headings and sub-headings, perhaps of even more than 2 indentation levels, building up such alternative tree views would not be done in a second, so storage of prefigured alternative views would be important.

5) What about these tree views, and then regular, traditional searching? Could search (which is not SQL in BDP, if I see it right) build up such trees, with the first search term / field content (e.g. town, A, B or C) becoming the respective headings, and your second search term ("interest" of the customer/prospect) becoming the subheading?

Example: You search for "everybody in town B and with interest 3 or 4". Now, would it be able to fill up the tree with a heading B, and then with sub-headings 3 and 4, which respectively list then all prospects, big and small, in that town B?

5a) If such "tree filling by search" is possible, would this be easy, or would it imply scripting, and if it does, are there relevant script examples in order to make it easy, though?

6) A general question: If I make false assumptions above, and if the tree cannot be used in such ways, what is the idea behind the tree? From the screenshots on your site, I am not sure about it all, since there is some functionality available from the tree (instead of (or additionally to) being available from the menus, so at the moment I don't entirely grasp if there might be a lot of wishful thinking in my assumptions above, since you say on your site something in the line "records can be put into folders".

Ok, but this would not mean that each record just has one given folder, and then will be "stored" there, and then there will be no alternative "folders" a record can belong to? Such an architecture would be against the philosophy of a relational database, to begin with?

Sorry for being rather technical, but we don't speak of a "readymade" product but of software that will only be useful after heavy adjustments to our individual needs, so it seems necessary to have some insight beforehand into what it can do, and what it can not do. (I own Access, and then never used it, don't want to make this error a second time - of course Access in not that good an example since in theory, Acces could "do it all", but it's myself who's unable to make it work.)
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Mikhail Lishin It seems my previous big comment was deleted, so I try to reply here.

So, in Brilliant Database records are stored in folders, like in outlook. You can drag records between folders. Records are not displayed in tree. Records are displayed in table-view (default - right-top pane) and selected record showed as form. However you can reconfigure layout, e.g. to show only list of records and each record in a popup windows. Each folder can store up to 2 000 000 records. Total number of records - unlimited.

You can also create virtual folders to show charts, calendars and of course records in another table view, e.g. grouped by City, then by "Customer Size":
http://www.brilliantdatab.../5_1ts.gif
http://www.brilliantdatab...5_1ts2.gif

In most real projects created with Brilliant each folder represents one record type, e.g. Clients, Orders, Products. Or Books and Authors. However, sometimes better to use folder as a "folder", e.g. Project A, Project B with different records in them (Docs, Photos, Orders).

Yes, Brilliant Database have many-to-many relational fields - so you can use it as usual relational db (but without programming, just drop a relational field):
http://www.brilliantdatab...el_mmr.htm

You can also do ABC 123 display by creating custom query with necessary rules:
http://www.brilliantdatab...editor.htm

I hope this reply is usefull :)
Binary Brilliant Inc - Oct 30 2013 at 9:37am Copy Link
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Mikhail Lishin Q: If I understand well - I didn't read into all of it yet - I create distinct queries for
(field x:) A (field y:) 1 ... C 1 ... I would then put these (stored?) queries as items in the tree, as

A: Yes, you can do this, but I think much easier to create one query which will ask (or suggest from a list) [A-C] and [1-4] and show records based on your reply. Or create a query which will group records by A-C, 1-4, like on this picture customers grouped by Room:
http://www.brilliantdatab...5_1ts2.gif
Binary Brilliant Inc - Oct 30 2013 at 9:41am Copy Link
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peter schleifer I can't see your answer above anymore, I suppose you withdrew it for some moments, in order to edit it?

Thank you especially for the screenshot

http://www.brilliantdatab.../5_1ts.gif

So we can group by 2 fields, which means we could see the whole list of records, in the records pane, sorted by up to 2 criteria.

Now where's the connection to the tree here, especially since above the "group records", there is "sort records", and "Collapse groups by default"?

Can we store these "sorted/grouped views" within the tree, in the form
field x, field y, OR
field m, field s
And then a click on that entry would display the grouped view within the record list pane (which would be a flat list, no?), or is there a way to have a tree view of records?
Oct 30 2013 at 9:44am Copy Link
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Mikhail Lishin ::I can't see your answer above anymore, I suppose you withdrew it for some
::moments, in order to edit it?
Unfortunately I can't see it as well, seems a bug on this site :(. I contacted them, so I hope they will restore it.

::So we can group by 2 fields, which means we could see the whole list of
::records, in the records pane, sorted by up to 2 criteria.
Yes.

::Now where's the connection to the tree here, especially since above the
::"group records", there is "sort records", and "Collapse groups by default"?
Tree is just like navigation in your database. It can allow you to see different folders or reports, charts, calendars or custom table view. The features ("group records", there is "sort records", etc) - is part of table view which can be used for folders, queries results, many-to-many relational fields (e.g. group books on author record by year).

::And then a click on that entry would display the grouped view within
::the record list pane (which would be a flat list, no?),
Yes.

::or is there a way to have a tree view of records?
No tree of folders only for folders. In the 1st version of Brilliant Database all records displayed in tree with folders, but it is unsuitable for 1000+ records
Binary Brilliant Inc - Oct 30 2013 at 9:52am Copy Link
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peter schleifer Thank you again, Mikhail!

I delved into your very good online help file from which I get much better insight than from the intro pages:

http://www.brilliantdatab...erface.htm

"it is unsuitable for 1000+ records" - I know about such possible problems, so I see the difficulties here. From the page within the help file I linked into here, I see there is currently no way to have it really Outlook-style, meaning, from left to right, folders, records ("list view"), contents ("form view").

Now I perfectly understand that you would need a rather large screen in order to have a full-fledged list view, between folders and form view, but as said, if you only use the list view (as I would do) for browsing in/selecting those records you want to have a better look at, in the form view, this list view pane could be quite thin, just for one field.

So you would select your "folder" (this is a concept I haven't grasped entirely yet), then browse the list, with up/dn arrow keys, and focus would stay within this list, while you have a look at various "forms" (details of the records in question).

This would appear, to me, a very natural way of using BD, for crm and other purposes (even if in such a use, the real tree, to the left, would remain a little bit "underused").

Now, in your current interface, such a setting does NOT seem to be possible; on the other hand, some other developers have introduced ALTERNATIVE such settings, some even just lately. For example, there are several photo viewers, like XnView, where you can have the list view ("middle pane") above the preview pane, or between file system pane and preview pane; the same with several file commanders, or for FastStone Image Viewer. And just some months before, the developer of that brilliant PIM, Zoot, did the same, i.e. he made it possible for you to have the list pane between the two others, not, much too short, above the content pane only.

Hence my question if you would consider introducing such alternative screen layouts, by option. Your BD is unique since nobody knows any other such database, with a "tree layout" - but then, the real tree is there, but not for listings, and the listing field (which can be a two-level "tree", too, but with which I would be perfectly happy for all my purposes), even on the most modern screens, will always be too short, since modern screen become larger and larger, but don't gain too much in height!

Traditionally, it was 1280x1024 (as in my case, but I've got two of them to make up for it), then, it's now yyx1080, and even yyyx1200 sometimes, but yyyx1400 seems to be very rare - on the other hand, WIDTHS of screen literally exploded.

So being able to put this intermediate pane between the two others, seems very natural to me, also under this "what kind of screens people use today?" aspect.

I'm sorry that anytime I'm really interested in some software I always end up with laying my finger in something not-THAT-good, but then, introducing alternative layouts (respectively, just this one alternative, since further ones would not be of real interest I think?) would not be that much work, coding-wise?

;-)
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Hawkeye I went to your website since I didn't see what I needed to know. I do have a few questions after doing a little research on your site.

1. What is the difference between the Home vs the Commercial version? The compare versions only compares the different offerings but the not the difference in the license cost for just the Pro version, which is the only offering here? What is the benefit of the Commercial version?

Both can only be used on the computer where it's installed or if I'm not mistaken, you have to buy a copy of the Database Workplace, $39.00, for each additional computer or additional license of the Pro version. If in a network configuration, the Database Server is required at $199.00, plus a copy of Workplace or Pro for each computer, right? The last part is rather vague on your website.

2. To compile and distribute the databases is only in the Database Ultimate edition with a staggering price tag of $1,799.00. Are these really compacted EXE files or actual runtime executables that can mean a large download for potential clients with DLL's and such?

3. I would assume, there would be prebuilt test databases a person could download, review and modify instead of downloading the demo and try to build one in trying to see if it would fill a users requirements. Sorry, just videos don't allow the user to experience anything remotely with actually working with a live test database to experiment with. Especially in a short amout of time to decide to purchase or not at a discounted rate here.

4. According to the fine print here and your website, free updates are for only 12 months. Again, according to the fine print, if you buy here, the updates are not discounted after 12 months, meaning you would pay the full price after 12 months where on your website, you pay the full price now then you get a discount after 12 months. So either way, you will eventually pay the same price after 12 months, if you extend the license, right?

You need to define the actual differences in the licensing being offered here. I have a funny feeling, people will think they can distribute their databases, if they buy the Commercial version which is not the case.

I am looking forward to your answers to the above questions.

Thanks,
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peter schleifer Excuse me, Hawkeye (sic!), for giving my 2cents. I also had discovered these licensing "problems", but did not want to further "harm business" for Mikhail, especially since I found him responding in an extraordinarily kind and helpful and constructive way, and I insist on these points which occur rarely!

Let's be realistic: For somebody who distributes his databases, either it's grand-scale, and then he will buy the 1800$ version, or, 40$ apiece with BD, he will probably choose Access or such where distributables are free. In both cases, he'll buy his environment totally independently of bits, since a difference of 40$ (or was it 30$?) will mean nothing to him.

So this offer here is decidedly for individuals who, like myself, are searching for a better (and easy) way to manage "their things", e.g. a one-man crm which later can be developed into one for 2 or 3, by buying the additional licenses.

If you google for db "review", the very first hit come, within google, with "bad news", but NO, READ that thread, and you will see that programmers are very happy with BD, and the delay mentioned there, had been for version 10 which finally WAS delivered, even if some months later than announced, and from my experience, such a delay of some months for a new version is "nothing", so nobody should be put off by that google "review" google text, read the thread linked there, and you'll see that BD is a good program, under constant development!

As for the layout, I also saw a hint to "tree, listview and then content in a pop-up window": depending on your screen width, perhaps this popup-window could be left to the right of the main window, and browsing within the list view would just change the content of the pop-up, without your needing to close the pop-up, then re-open it again?

If this is so, this seems to be an acceptable intermediate solution for me, even if I prefer, mid-term, to have all three panes in one big main frame - perhaps Mikhail will comment on these alternatives?

Let's not be too critical against really good software, when on the other hand, some rather bad software goes without due criticism and thus makes good business! But then, you are right to say, folk, beware, for your own use, it'll be a good thing, but if you have the intention to distribute applications, it will cost you! But again, which professional who does this, would come here to spare 30 or 40$?
Oct 31 2013 at 3:01am Copy Link
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Aramante Browne I'm using Brilliant Database for the past 4 years and it saves me lots of time and headache with easy scripting. Looking forward to a major update soon.
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Mikhail Lishin Concrning layouts, I have created a collage:
http://brilliantdatabase.com/layouts.jpg

Q: What is the difference between the Home vs the Commercial version?
A: Home Edition can not be used for commercial purposes - only for home/educational/non-profit;

Concerning Ultimate Edition.
Q:Let's be realistic: For somebody who distributes his databases, either it's
grand-scale, and then he will buy the 1800$ version, or, 40$ apiece with BD, he will probably choose Access or such where distributables are free.
A: Is far as I know access is not free and doesnt allow to compile executable applications with protection. Brilliant Database Ultimate allows. So if you create a usefull database solution - you can easily convert it into basic Windows Application and sell it world wide. Without any additional programming.

Q: Concerning v10 release delay.
A: Yes, v10 development take more time than we expected. However we plan to release the next update - v10.5 within 2 weeks :)

2Aramante Browne: Thank you for your kind words!
Binary Brilliant Inc - Oct 31 2013 at 5:08am Copy Link
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Roberto I followed this product and I was waiting what will happen with v10. Now I see its live already, and the developer seems quite responsive too. For 47$ im IN.

Can this product be installed in desktop and laptop? I'm confortable with desktop but having kids at home many times i'm relegated to use my old lap :)
Oct 31 2013 at 5:16am Copy Link
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Kim HOPE I wish to have 2 questions before I install the Trial version::
Q1: Is "Brilliant Database" a Relational OR Flat database?
Q2. Is it exportable to MS Access database?
Thanks,
Kim
Oct 31 2013 at 5:29am Copy Link
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Mikhail Lishin Q:Can this product be installed in desktop and laptop? I'm confortable with
Q: desktop but having kids at home many times i'm relegated to use my old lap :)
A: Desktop/laptop or tablet. The only requirement is Windows XP/7/8

Q1: Is "Brilliant Database" a Relational OR Flat database?
A1: Relational.

Q2. Is it exportable to MS Access database?
A2. Yes, but only single tables (you cant export brilliant relations to access relations). E.g. you can export Clients records, Orders records and then combine them by ClientID in Access.
Binary Brilliant Inc - Oct 31 2013 at 5:38am Copy Link
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Hawkeye Peter Schiefer,

First of all, if building and using a database that will be used by you and you will not need it on another machine or be used by anyone else, then, I would agree that it may be what you need, if it serves your purpose. I never stated anything about the quality of the software, good or bad.

Like you, I don't have the time to test every piece of software, especially if I have to create a database to get a feel for the software. This is where they need to have sample databases to download and experiment with. Modify screen layouts, add and delete records, etc. Videos are not really good in this aspect. They will show you the highlights in certain areas but they cannot cover all the critical areas. Different users may want to see different areas of what the capabilities are. Yours seems to be on how the data is displayed on the screen.

I needed to know if the Commercial license would compile into standalone EXE's. When I found it won't, I would still like to know what the difference between the Home and the Commerical license is. If there is no basic fundamental difference, which one are you going to purchase? Would you buy the Commercial license not knowing?

Yes, I will be willing bet that a lot of people would assume, that compiling into a EXE file and being able to distribute it would come with the Commercial version or at least be able to distribute it. With most software, the distribution rights are granted with their Commercial versions or licenses. Also keep in mind, being able to compile is also about distribution within a company, small or large, not always selling the distribution to the general public.

You stated, "Let's not be too critical against really good software, when on the other hand, some rather bad software goes without due criticism and thus makes good business!" Again, I never stated anything, good or bad about the quality of the software. I do agree with your statement in general. However, I do find it amaing that really good software is found by reading the help files rather than actually downloading it and testing it out to see if it meets your needs.

I have programmed custom databases in SQL, Access, etc. along with computer, networking and software support. I also get asked by my clients on suggesting software, utilities, databases, etc. I try to give them suggestions that they can check out for themselves without having to dig for results. Yes, they get told if I use, have used or not used anything that is being passed on. Yes, I have emailed my clients when something is coming they might want to look at or if it is a slam dunk, another email when it goes live. I consider just one of the ways of going the extra mile for my clients.

Did you read item #4 listed? Depending on where you buy the software, depends on the price of your extended license after your 12 months is up. If you want to go further, will the software stop working after the 12 months?

Compare the fine print to other vendors. There seems to be some key elements missing that most of other vendors specify one way or another.

Just like you, I am trying to get answers to my questions.

Thanks,
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Glen Coulthard A few quick questions to help me evaluate:

1. Which RTF component are you using to store formatted text? (e.g., tRichView)
2. Can I export content from an RTF field to DOCX and HTML?
3. Can I perform a mail merge operation from inside Brilliant?
4. Can you store and render HTML code in any controls (e.g., iFrames)?
4. Do you have native multimedia controls for displaying local MP4 videos or web-based media (e.g., from a YouTube or Vimeo link)?

Thanks for any response.
Glen
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Mikhail Lishin Q: 1. Which RTF component are you using to store formatted text? (e.g., tRichView)
A: We used original Microsoft RichText Control;

Q: 2. Can I export content from an RTF field to DOCX and HTML?
A: No, Brilliant removes fomatting before export. It is really strange (in fact you are the first who asked about this) so we will add option to export RTF asis to Ms Word.

3. Can I perform a mail merge operation from inside Brilliant?
Yes.

4. Can you store and render HTML code in any controls (e.g., iFrames)?
Yes, we have HTML control. You can also replace tree-view or main-view with custom HTML. Here is example of interactive reservation calendar generated in Brilliant-based application:
http://www.brilliantdatab...x/ip1b.gif

4. Do you have native multimedia controls for displaying local MP4 videos or
web-based media (e.g., from a YouTube or Vimeo link)?
Yes. Just place HTML control and type default youtube-iframe code in it.
Binary Brilliant Inc - Oct 31 2013 at 11:21am Copy Link
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TopDog I am a user of version 9 and I am very happy with it. I went to the site but for the life of me can not find out what improvements have been made in version 10. Can you point me to a page that describes the difference between the versions?
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Mikhail Lishin Hello Scott,
Q: I went to the site but for the life of me can not find out what improvements have been made in version 10.

A: http://www.brilliantdatab...w_news/551
We plan to release v10.5 within 2 weeks and it will be with detailed list of changes since v10.0 and v9.
Binary Brilliant Inc - Oct 31 2013 at 11:51am Copy Link
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Emil Kucera @Mikhail :
Just to make sure, you said
"A: Desktop/laptop or tablet"
Does it mean I may use the single licence on BOTH my desktop and laptop, if I am the only user?
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Roberto The translation system is so.. easy! great, big smile now.
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Mikhail Lishin Q: Does it mean I may use the single licence on BOTH my desktop and laptop, if I am the only user?
A: Yes

Q: The translation system is so.. easy! great, big smile now.
A: Just a plain text file :)
Binary Brilliant Inc - Oct 31 2013 at 11:17pm Copy Link
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Roady Roadworker What about support for newer MS Office extensions?
The trial lets me only import .xls and .mdb....
Nov 1 2013 at 4:05pm Copy Link
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Dmitriy Ivanov Similiar software like brillian database but free http://myvisualdatabase.com/
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