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What are people saying about Home Document Manager

Terry Fisher Some questions after trying it:
!) Where is the program kept on the pc (doesn't appear under Program Files).
2) Data files are copied to Documents & Settings. Can the program simply point to an already organised disk folder rather than create duplicate files?
3) Can the data files be kept on a separate data disk?
4) T Raynor says 'With this scheme everything is available wherever I am'. How?
5) Is data transmitted to the internet?
6) I have a pc and a laptop and use a data disk I can plug into either computer (only use both at once for maintenance). How does your licensing policy work - do I need more than one copy?
7) I could find no help files. Admittedly the program is fairly intuitive but if the above questions were answered by help then confidence would be higher.

Apr 16 2010 at 9:03am Copy Link

Tim Haughton @Terry, some answers:

1) The program uses Microsoft's ClickOnce technology for installation. ClickOnce programs are not stored under program files as they do not require administrator permissions to be installed or updated. It's the same mechanism Google use for their Chrome browser for example.

2) Home Document Manager maintains it's own internal structure. You can import entire folder structures by dragging a folder from Windows Explorer and dropping it onto a folder in Home Document Manager.

3) The data files can be kept anywhere you like. In the options menu you can move your data folder or switch to another repository.

4) I think he was referring to DropBox.

5) The only time the application sends any data is in the unlikely event of a crash - just enough information to help us fix the problem. Even then it is entirely optional and no personal information or documents are ever sent.

6) I'm pretty relaxed on licensing. If you're a home user, I'm happy for you to use the application on multiple machines within your home. Because of how the licensing works, you can't currently share the data folder between different machines.

7) Agreed. An integrated help file is on my To-Do list.

Dokix Inc - Apr 16 2010 at 9:26am Copy Link

anthonyraynor? Will you please expand on number 6. I basically scan files only on my desktop, but sync them across all machines and to the web for access at anytime. I have grown weary of PaperPort crashing every time I use it and want a replacement. If a document is scanned in, is it locked into a database where the synced file can't be viewed on another machine? I am going to trial the program to see if it will fit my needs? For those of you that don't scan your documents you really should consider it. Especially those thermal printed receipts that fade with time.

BTW. I have switched from DropBox to Humyo as the web interface, sharing capabilities and price of Humyo are much better.

Apr 16 2010 at 2:11pm Copy Link

Tim Haughton @T Raynor - Home Document Manager's data folder isn't designed to be sync'd across multiple machines. The data folder works fine for backing up to online data stores, but not for sync'ing across machines.

Dokix Inc - Apr 17 2010 at 7:39pm Copy Link

anthonyraynor? Thanks for the answer. PaperPort although buggy, allows me to sync across all my computers which works great for me. I also need editing abilities, such as crop, enhance, straighten, etc. which the product lacks. Good luck and thanks for placing the item on sale.

Apr 18 2010 at 1:44pm Copy Link

Scraped M I was waiting for this to come up, was going to buy but cannot even install it i immediately get an error.

The error log is all fine until the app needs to download some HDM file from your server:

'.NET Framework 3.5 SP1' RunCheck result: No Install Needed
Launching Application.
URLDownloadToCacheFile failed with HRESULT '-2146697210'
Error: An error occurred trying to download 'http://www.dokix.com/depl...pplication'.

Seems i will have to pass on this one.

Apr 20 2010 at 9:22pm Copy Link

Tim Haughton @Scraped M - our DNS servers recently changed, and I think it's catching out users from certain ISPs. If you've run the installer and it has failed to start, go to this URL:

http://www.homedocumentma...eploy.html

And click either the "Install" or "Launch" button. Let me know if you still have issues.

Dokix Inc - Apr 20 2010 at 9:42pm Copy Link

Tim Haughton @Scraped M I should have pointed out that you need to uninstall the application before using the link I posted.

Dokix Inc - Apr 20 2010 at 9:45pm Copy Link

Scraped M Thanks Tim but still no joy.

When using Launch and running the HDM.application it gives error: http://pastebin.com/NjeZrXhs

When clicking install, the deploy/setup.exe URL just gives me a 404 i even tried loading it through a proxy running on one of my servers in the USA.

Apr 20 2010 at 9:56pm Copy Link

Tim Haughton A couple of possibilities, it looks from this line:

file:///C:/Users/MyName/Desktop/HDM.application

That you're saving the file to your desktop first? I'm pretty sure that won't work. For the URL that I posted, you need to visit it using Internet Explorer and click on the button from within the browser.

Secondly, I've just had another user tell me that Norton Antivirus has chosen today to mess up the install process - and that it worked fine with Norton disabled. If you use an AV product, it might be worth trying the install with the AV disabled.

Dokix Inc - Apr 20 2010 at 10:17pm Copy Link

Ash Goyal @Scraped, use the Download link at BITS site above to download which works fine rather than the one indicated by Tim above. I had the same problem as you so I managed to download the s/w from BITS site above (next to the "Buy Now" button).

Apr 21 2010 at 1:16am Copy Link

A Staley Bad Dokix... was going to buy right away... even waited since last week, but when I downloaded the demo and saw it required internet activation, was turn-off from purchase right away. Activation just brought you a lost customer...

Apr 21 2010 at 6:02am Copy Link

Sue Sparkes I'd love to try it too but I get the 404 not found or the download from Bits Du Jour crashes on installation. Not good.

Apr 21 2010 at 8:04am Copy Link

Sune Magnberg Below is what happened to me after about one hour and less than 40 % of Home Document Manager downloaded. It seems it is impossible for me to download your program because of a time-out. In my country (Tanzania) Internet connections are very slow. To download big files I use a download manager that assumes that the web sites allow resumption in case of any difficulties.

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PLATFORM VERSION INFO
Windows : 5.1.2600.196608 (Win32NT)
Common Language Runtime : 2.0.50727.3603
System.Deployment.dll : 2.0.50727.3053 (netfxsp.050727-3000)
mscorwks.dll : 2.0.50727.3603 (GDR.050727-3600)
dfdll.dll : 2.0.50727.3053 (netfxsp.050727-3000)
dfshim.dll : 2.0.50727.3053 (netfxsp.050727-3000)

SOURCES
Deployment url : http://www.dokix.com/depl...pplication
Server : Apache/2.2.12 (Ubuntu)
Application url : http://www.dokix.com/depl...e.manifest
Server : Apache/2.2.12 (Ubuntu)

IDENTITIES
Deployment Identity : HDM.application, Version=1.2010.4.1, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=c09132a445b0f3a9, processorArchitecture=x86
Application Identity : HDM.exe, Version=1.2010.4.1, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=c09132a445b0f3a9, processorArchitecture=x86, type=win32

APPLICATION SUMMARY
* Installable application.

ERROR SUMMARY
Below is a summary of the errors, details of these errors are listed later in the log.
* Activation of http://www.dokix.com/depl...pplication resulted in exception. Following failure messages were detected:
+ Downloading http://www.dokix.com/depl...pplication Files/HDM_1_2010_4_1/OCRResources/GlyphReader/v3.0/TOCR31.gar.deploy did not succeed.
+ The operation has timed out.

COMPONENT STORE TRANSACTION FAILURE SUMMARY
No transaction error was detected.

WARNINGS
There were no warnings during this operation.

OPERATION PROGRESS STATUS
* [2010-04-21 20:40:58] : Activation of http://www.dokix.com/depl...pplication has started.
* [2010-04-21 20:41:12] : Processing of deployment manifest has successfully completed.
* [2010-04-21 20:41:12] : Installation of the application has started.
* [2010-04-21 20:41:17] : Processing of application manifest has successfully completed.
* [2010-04-21 20:41:28] : Request of trust and detection of platform is complete.

ERROR DETAILS
Following errors were detected during this operation.
* [2010-04-21 21:29:08] System.Deployment.Application.DeploymentDownloadException (Unknown subtype)
- Downloading http://www.dokix.com/depl...pplication Files/HDM_1_2010_4_1/OCRResources/GlyphReader/v3.0/TOCR31.gar.deploy did not succeed.
- Source: System.Deployment
- Stack trace:
at System.Deployment.Application.SystemNetDownloader.DownloadSingleFile(DownloadQueueItem next)
at System.Deployment.Application.SystemNetDownloader.DownloadAllFiles()
at System.Deployment.Application.FileDownloader.Download(SubscriptionState subState)
at System.Deployment.Application.DownloadManager.DownloadDependencies(SubscriptionState subState, AssemblyManifest deployManifest, AssemblyManifest appManifest, Uri sourceUriBase, String targetDirectory, String group, IDownloadNotification notification, DownloadOptions options)
at System.Deployment.Application.ApplicationActivator.DownloadApplication(SubscriptionState subState, ActivationDescription actDesc, Int64 transactionId, TempDirectory& downloadTemp)
at System.Deployment.Application.ApplicationActivator.InstallApplication(SubscriptionState& subState, ActivationDescription actDesc)
at System.Deployment.Application.ApplicationActivator.PerformDeploymentActivation(Uri activationUri, Boolean isShortcut, String textualSubId, String deploymentProviderUrlFromExtension, BrowserSettings browserSettings, String& errorPageUrl)
at System.Deployment.Application.ApplicationActivator.ActivateDeploymentWorker(Object state)
--- Inner Exception ---
System.Net.WebException
- The operation has timed out.
- Source: System
- Stack trace:
at System.Net.ConnectStream.Read(Byte[] buffer, Int32 offset, Int32 size)
at System.Deployment.Application.SystemNetDownloader.DownloadSingleFile(DownloadQueueItem next)

COMPONENT STORE TRANSACTION DETAILS
No transaction information is available.

Apr 21 2010 at 8:10am Copy Link

Cathy Hoover Hi,

I purchased this early this morning and still have not received my license. When will these be emailed?

Apr 21 2010 at 8:13am Copy Link

Tim Haughton @Sune - I'm sorry about that. The file it's failing on is the single largest file in the app at around 30 meg. I'd love to be able to help, but I can't combat a slow connection. I hear what you're saying about download managers, but the deployment technology we use (Microsoft's ClickOnce) requires the installation to take place over the Internet as it does now.

Dokix Inc - Apr 21 2010 at 8:36am Copy Link

Tim Haughton @Sue -could you try downloading from our web site:

www.homedocumentmanager.com

Let me know if you have any issues.

Dokix Inc - Apr 21 2010 at 8:42am Copy Link

Tim Haughton @Cathy, I've re-emailed your key, let me know if you don't get it (support@homedocumentmanager.com)

Dokix Inc - Apr 21 2010 at 8:43am Copy Link

Sue Sparkes it chokes on downloading net framework 3.5 SP1. Just completely hangs.

Guess I'll have to dig out my old Paperport disk if I can find it.

Apr 21 2010 at 9:11am Copy Link

Tim Haughton @Sue - hmmm, the .Net Framework is downloaded straight from Microsoft.

It's very odd. If you're so inclined, you can download the .Net framework seperately:

http://msdn.microsoft.com...78097.aspx

Dokix Inc - Apr 21 2010 at 9:21am Copy Link

Sue Sparkes I've given up - this is ridiculous. I can't install Net Framework at all, it hangs part way through.

Log below:-

[04/21/10,21:13:42] Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 'package': [2] Error: Installation failed for component Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 'package'. MSI returned error code 1603
[04/21/10,22:07:00] Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 'package': [2] Error: Installation failed for component Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 'package'. MSI returned error code 1603
[04/21/10,22:07:05] WapUI: [2] DepCheck indicates Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 'package' is not installed.
[04/21/10,22:14:18] Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 'package': [2] Error: Installation failed for component Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 'package'. MSI returned error code 1603
[04/21/10,22:14:20] WapUI: [2] DepCheck indicates Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 'package' is not installed.
[04/21/10,22:26:02] Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 'package': [2] Error: Installation failed for component Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 'package'. MSI returned error code 1603
[04/21/10,22:26:06] WapUI: [2] DepCheck indicates Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 'package' is not installed.

Apr 21 2010 at 10:27am Copy Link

Ash Goyal Other than the link issue above, I had no problem with install of s/w on my Windows 7 64 bit Ultimate machine. I am evaluating it and its looking good for the price.

The look and feel is very similar to another s/w SOHODOX which sells for $199 (or $129 for Paperport users) and is catered more towards the soho market place. sohodox stores all its info in MS Access database which is standard s/w compared to others storing their data in proprietary format.

I can see the value of HDM but am not sure if I want to give up my current folder structure in Paperport. I used meaningful file names and am able to search for any keywords quickly using Windows 7 search or using other lightening fast searchers such as SuperCat which catalogues your entire harddrive within minutes for searching of any files. Paperport is bloated but I can sync entire folder to other PC's or to the cloud. Still debating...

Apr 21 2010 at 11:07am Copy Link

anthonyraynor? I am with you Ash. I appreciate the discount offer, but PaperPort offers so much more. I bought PP12 Pro from Newegg for $69 for the full version. Still waiting for this product to mature a bit more.q1`

Apr 21 2010 at 12:11pm Copy Link

Herb Armstrong Greetings: Sounds like what I need, I'm not very tech savy, I would like to try/buy but I'm not at my home computer. Any suggestions? Thanks.

Apr 21 2010 at 2:05pm Copy Link

Ash Goyal Everybody must try the SuperCat 4.5 software to create catalogues of all files on your computer (http://no-nonsense-software.com)

It takes minutes to generate the catalogue which then allows you to search for ANY files on your computer, almost instantly! I am still using their trial version but would pay $30 for the time it has saved me finding files I needed :)

HDM software is in its own league when it comes to simplicity and storing your documents in a "file cabinet" and then search/view them inside the HDM. However for now, I prefer to loosely maintain my file structure anywhere on the harddrive and use Windows search and/or Supercat to find what I need.

Apr 21 2010 at 5:06pm Copy Link

Tim Haughton @Sue - it looks like your computer is unable to install the .Net framework for some reason. Unfortunately this is something you'll need to get support from Microsoft on before Home Document Manager will work.

Dokix Inc - Apr 21 2010 at 7:51pm Copy Link

_*_ This program carries online activation DRM and I am unsure if it is limited installs as well.
I wish this was listed upfront as I would not have downloaded the trial to begin with to avoid the DRM altogether.

Nov 5 2010 at 9:38am Copy Link

Tim Haughton @MB - you need to enter a serial number to activate the application. The number of activations is limited, but in 2 years not a single customer has hit that limit, so it's not usually a problem.

Dokix Inc - Nov 6 2010 at 12:32am Copy Link

M M Does it support other languages, with their special characters? Does it use any dictionaries for spell checking / improving OCR?
Can I select other language for the UI?

A suggestion to BdJ: could you ask each vendor to prepare a document with EULA, including upgrade policy / discounts, for easy download? It would save us a lot of work when we need to reinstall or upgrade the software we have purchased, and also help decide if we want to download the trial in the first place.

Nov 8 2010 at 7:18pm Copy Link

Tim Haughton @M M - Home Document Manager offers up to 99% accuracy in English, French, Italian, German, Dutch, Swedish, Norwegian, Finnish, Danish, Spanish and Portuguese.

It uses a lexicon as opposed to a dictionary. Subtly different, and if you're interested in the technicalities, it uses character frequency/probability tables which allows it to cope with new words and common misspellings. This has other benefits too, as it will work with medical or legal documents that might contain Latin for example.

The interface is currently English only.

In terms of upgrade policy, you will receive all minor updates for free.

Dokix Inc - Nov 8 2010 at 9:31pm Copy Link

Mike G I like the concept and simple, elegant interface. Scanned a couple of documents with no problem.

A few questions/issues:

Where is Help? There is a Help tab, but it contains everything, except help (buy online now, activation, Facebook, Twitter,...). The Web Site and Support buttons are the closest thing, but I couldn't find a help document/page there either! Is HDM supposed to be so easy to use that you don't need even the briefest outline of an explanation?

Searching/Filtering: I scanned two documents and included the word "insurance" in the name. Only the second document contains that word internally. When I search, only the second PDF appears. Why isn't the document name included in searches? Is there a way to manually tag the first document so it's included when I search for "insurance"?

Managing Tags: I don't see any way to manage tags in documents. Is every significant word in the document tagged? What will "Remove tag" actually remove? I added a tag "insurance" under My Tags, but how do I use it?

Moving and Organizing Documents in Folders: I created a new folder named "Insurance" and dragged the insurance documents there. I see it's best to create and select the desired folder and then scan. But in case we need to move files later, why not also include "move to" in the document right click menu? Drag and drop can be tedious when dropping individual items on a small target. Also, wouldn't it be great to include something like smart playlists (or in this case, smart folders) that take advantage of tags to make documents automatically appear in particular folders?

Importing via Drag and Drop: I dragged an entire folder with subfolders of PDF's onto HDM "My Folders". HDM quickly and automatically imported and OCR'ed everything. Very nice! However, the preview text (in the middle pane) is garbage on many of the PDF's. When I search on a word that appears in all PDF's in a subfolder, only 2 or 3 out of more than 20 documents appears. I'm guessing OCR encountered problems with security and/or incompatible PDF format? In this case pages may be stored as images, so I can still read all the imported PDF's in the view pane.

Looking forward to some feedback on these issues before the sale on Friday.

Nov 9 2010 at 12:01am Copy Link

Tim Haughton @Mike G - "Is HDM supposed to be so easy to use that you don't need even the briefest outline of an explanation? "

Yes. Kind of. :) There are various resources on the web site, but the vast majority of our customers do just sit down in front of it and start using it. I agree it could use a help file, but there are usually things that users are asking for more frequently.

"Why isn't the document name included in searches?"

I've just released an update to solve that.:

http://www.dokix.com/blog...xt-search/

"Is there a way to manually tag the first document so it's included when I search for "insurance""

Tags work in a similar way to folders. Just right click on an existing tag (starting with "My Tags) and create your tag structure. To Tag a document, just drag the document onto a tag.

"Also, wouldn't it be great to include something like smart playlists (or in this case, smart folders)"

Do mean like a saved search?

"I'm guessing OCR encountered problems with security and/or incompatible PDF format?"

Hard to say. Home Document Manager will OCR a PDF only if it contains no text. Could you send me an example problem-PDF before you've entered it into Home Document Manager and I'll take a look.

tim@dokix.com

Dokix Inc - Nov 9 2010 at 8:55pm Copy Link

Bill Shinnick Downloaded the trial but it did not work with my ancient scanner (not supported in Windows) but after a couple of emails Tim had pointed out a 'work-around' using a watched folder. Impressed with support so far. A Help file is still needed I believe.

Will probably purchase the deal when it comes up.

Bill Shinnick

Nov 10 2010 at 12:51am Copy Link

Staley Another case where I would love to purchase a couple licenses of this software, but my policy on not supporting DRM/activation systems in software has again prevent a sale... a shame... this would've worked nicely with PDF Annotator (Version 3!) which is DRM free. Great job GRAHL software, shame Dokix Inc.

Nov 10 2010 at 1:36am Copy Link

Anti DRM No DRM for me. I'm used to restore my pc with a fresh OS image about every three months. The supplier of a flight-sim add-on started asking questions after the second reactivation. I don't want to be controlled or limited for something a paid for. My fault because I didn't read the licence before buying. Stopped using it, and never bougth DRM software since then. Bought XYPlorer last monday. Good software good licence. As a paying customer it feels good to be trusted by the vendor. Don't understand DRM vendors. Pirates never pay for software, they use cracked versions or use it illegal. They are never restricted by DRM, only paying customers are... Strange world...

Nov 10 2010 at 8:16am Copy Link

Mike G Tim, thanks for the quick update to include file name in searches! In case you haven't noticed, when it comes to software, some of us Bits du Jour regulars tend to be a little more demanding than the vast majority of users out there. ;-]

With no documentation, it wouldn't surprise me if some users never use one or more features--or at least experience frustration until they stumble on functionality by trial and error. In any case, typically only a small percentage of customers make the effort to send feedback.

Yes, smart folders would be very similar to saved searches. One advantage would be files appear in the folder automatically without having to drag and drop them on a small tag icon. Smart folders could also include multiple tags. iTunes smart playlists are a good example.

For PDFs that display garbage characters in the middle pane, I'll try to find an example I can send you offline. Unfortunately, the files I'm currently having the problem with are bank statements which I don't want to send.

Nov 10 2010 at 12:43pm Copy Link

Glenn Rice On one of your previous comments you wrote:

"6) I'm pretty relaxed on licensing. If you're a home user, I'm happy for you to use the application on multiple machines within your home. Because of how the licensing works, you can't currently share the data folder between different machines. "

a) That's nice about the multiple installs: I'd only want it on two - my wife and my laptops. Is that the type of setup that would be OK under this scheme?

b) Would a work around for the syncing/sharing problem be for one of the machines to point to the documents/database via a shared folder on the other machine?

Thanks

Nov 10 2010 at 4:58pm Copy Link

Tim Haughton @Glenn - Yes, your wife and you could both have separate installs, but each "data folder" is tied to a machine, so you wouldn't be able to share the data.

Dokix Inc - Nov 10 2010 at 5:42pm Copy Link

No DRM for me either No DRM for me either. I would have bought this but not with DRM.

Nov 11 2010 at 3:06am Copy Link

Anthony Larson What is the difference between "Home Document Manager" & "PDF Scan Pro", both created by your company.

Nov 11 2010 at 9:53am Copy Link

Paul Eaves No DRM for me either - shame I could do with this kind of software

Nov 11 2010 at 4:36pm Copy Link

joel kens DRM killed the good apps. No deal.

Nov 11 2010 at 4:45pm Copy Link

DrTeeth +1 for no sale due to DRM.

Funnily enough, DRM pushes me to 'the other side'; whilst non-DRM software gets bought to support it even if I don't really need it.

The big issue, what happens if a smaller outfit, like those who appear here disappears along with their DRM servers?

Nov 11 2010 at 7:14pm Copy Link

Tore Hoyem +1 on the DRM avoidance.

After a couple of bad experiences (vendors going out of business, etc) I avoid these.
The only exceptions being Windows and Photoshop, as I'm 99,99% sure these will survive the ... erhm ... demise of their originating company.

Nov 11 2010 at 7:17pm Copy Link

Carlos Oliveros + 1 on the DRM avoidance.

Nov 11 2010 at 7:46pm Copy Link

TopDog Aside from the DRM issue this software does not support the import of either RTF or TXT documents. So if one were acquiring this software to not only go paperless but to consolidate all the documents on a system these formats would be left out.

I did install the trial version and was Very Impressed with this program. I will keep my eye on this software and hope to see listed on here again supporting more formats.

Nov 11 2010 at 8:02pm Copy Link

franp User There is something worst than DRM : unadvertized DRM.
This software have both. Not a single warning on the developer website about the activation scheme. I pass my way.

Nov 11 2010 at 8:08pm Copy Link

Tim Haughton @Anthony - PDF Scan Pro is aimed at creating and manipulating PDF documents. Home Document Manager is more like Outlook for your paperwork.

Dokix Inc - Nov 11 2010 at 8:44pm Copy Link

Tim Haughton With regards to DRM - in two years of selling Home Document Manager, the *only* complaints we've had about hardware locking licenses have come from Bits du Jour, which represents a fraction of 1% of our business.

We enjoy responding to customer feedback, and I'm in the process of adding TXT and RTF file support as per Scott's suggestion.

But the hardware locked licenses don't bother our customers outside BdJ, and it means we spend no time at all combating piracy, leaving more time for supporting our customers and developing new things.

Dokix Inc - Nov 11 2010 at 8:52pm Copy Link

Carlos Oliveros I bought.

Suggestion: Interface in Spanish.

Thanks

Regards

Nov 11 2010 at 9:16pm Copy Link

_*_ Tim Haughton, I had no intent of writing after my first post, that simply called for an upfront statement concerning DRM, but you have singled out Bits customers; which I am one.

With all due respect I do not buy all my software through Bits du Jour, but I still make sure DRM is not part of the software. I have personally written many companies before purchasing, making sure their program has no DRM before I purchase.

Many people have no reason to complain as it appears that only a fraction of companies inform their potential customers about DRM in the first place. Bits is one of those outlets that honors their customers in this way. I have yet to have a company tell me what form of DRM is being used and installed on my system when I have asked, or how to fully remove it.

It seems all too secretive, and since files are being installed on my computer should I not have a right to know what they are and where they are placed?

Bottom line is, if real pirates wanted your program they would have it DRM or not, and in the end, it is only honest customers that are faced with the DRM demands.

Nov 11 2010 at 9:57pm Copy Link

Tim Haughton @Carlos - many thanks, noted :)

Dokix Inc - Nov 11 2010 at 10:05pm Copy Link

Beth C @ Tim Haughton

Quote: "With regards to DRM - in two years of selling Home Document Manager, the *only* complaints we've had about hardware locking licenses have come from Bits du Jour, which represents a fraction of 1% of our business."

I wonder if this is because BDJ allows open and transparent discussion by potential buyers? Your comment feels a little bit dismissive of BDJ customers?

+ 1 for DRM (I have had a few really annoying experiences with having had to contact software makers almost to 'apologise' for changing my PC or reformatting the drive and 'begging' for reactivation.

Nov 11 2010 at 10:06pm Copy Link

Tim Haughton @M B - "It seems all too secretive, and since files are being installed on my computer should I not have a right to know what they are and where they are placed? "

I appreciate your comments, but there's nothing remotely secret about it.

The software is designed to run with a license file. When you activate the software, it downloads a license file which is specific to your PC. If you change PC, you just activate it again and it downloads another license file.

The license file is stored in plain view in Home Document Manager's data folder, it is called hdm.license. Your system is not altered in any way by this process.

In fact, Home Document Manager runs under what Microsoft call "ClickOnce", meaning it runs in a security sandbox which actually prevents it from altering your system in any way.

Dokix Inc - Nov 11 2010 at 10:12pm Copy Link

Tim Haughton @Beth - totally understand. I don't want customers having to contact me every time they change their hardware, which is why the system is designed to be no bother.

You can change almost every piece of hardware in your computer and the system won't care. And I've set the limit on activations so high that not one customer has ever hit it.

And I don't do BdJ for the money, like I said, it's less than 1% of our business, but BdJ customers are very vocal - that's why I do it :) I always get good suggestions for new features.

Dokix Inc - Nov 11 2010 at 10:18pm Copy Link

A S With 1 license can install in my Desktop and in my Laptop?

Regards

Nov 11 2010 at 10:19pm Copy Link

Tim Haughton @A S - yes, you can.

Dokix Inc - Nov 11 2010 at 10:25pm Copy Link

Beth C @Tim Haughton

Quote: "And I don't do BdJ for the money, like I said, it's less than 1% of our business, but BdJ customers are very vocal - that's why I do it :) I always get good suggestions for new features."

That's good :) - thanks for your reply :)

Nov 11 2010 at 10:27pm Copy Link

Michael R. Just downloaded and played around with your nice software.

But some questions arised:

(1) DRM

Reading all these comments about DRM, perhaps I did not understand it correctly. Is this just about a one-time connection to your server to find out, if the maximum of allowed installations on different computers is reached? Or are the resulting databases/PDF-Files being somehow encrypted?

You wrote:

"6) I'm pretty relaxed on licensing. If you're a home user, I'm happy for you to use the application on multiple machines within your home. Because of how the licensing works, you can't currently share the data folder between different machines. "

Does that mean you can't concurrently(!) access to the same data. Or (perhaps because of this DRM) you can't at all, because each database is linked with a certain computer? The later would be more secure (depending on the encryption algorithm), but what if the computer it is connected does not work anymore. Than the database and all documents are gone too?

~~~~~~~~~~~

(2) Here some impressions with my playing around with your tool:

What I did not test (yet) was the scanning and the OCR.

I imported two pdf-files, but perhaps I did it not right, because they did not appear anywhere. When I clicked on a folder-name I was able to do so. This worked quite fast.

Now the search. Interesting was, that the same document appeared twice. As I found out later, when I found the option-dialog and repaired it, this document was displayed only once any more. So I suppose the very first import of a document took place, even if not displayed and so there were twice the same document in your database. So perhaps a (small) bug.

The other things I tried worked fine, but I would have liked some things more improved.

* As it seems there is only one database. No chance to create more databases, e.g. one for the receipts and one for internal documents. Or are there perhaps some command-line args, which allow to define the database-directory (and the basket-directory)?

* When the search results are shown, it would be nice, if HDM would skip to the first occurence in the right pane and would be able to skip to the next. It would also be nice, if the text around the found word would be displayed instead of the first text in the documents. And finally being able to do a AND/OR/NOT expression with some parantheses would be fine.

* I appreciate you to work on an update, which allows to import .pure text-files. But why not define an open-plugin possibility, so that each filetype can be imported!?

I think the proposals above would be quite useful and should not so hard to implement in a minor update.

Finally: I lke the feature of a directory, where HDM gets all which is copied into. Good idea.

Nov 11 2010 at 11:44pm Copy Link

Tim Haughton @Michael - "Is this just about a one-time connection to your server to find out, if the maximum of allowed installations on different computers is reached? Or are the resulting databases/PDF-Files being somehow encrypted?"

Oh crikey, no we don't encrypt any documents. It's a one time thing just to activate the software.

"As it seems there is only one database. No chance to create more databases"

Yes, I have plans for multiple repositories, and also being able to use your normal windows file structure as a repository to. You can create multiple repositories if you wish, but you would have to switch between them using the options dialog and it would be a bit of a pain, so I don't recommend it.

"but what if the computer it is connected does not work anymore. "

You can use the same data folder on another computer, you would just need to activate the software again to make your new computer the new "owner" of that data.

Thanks for the suggestions too. Much appreciated.

Dokix Inc - Nov 12 2010 at 12:03am Copy Link

Roger Thomasson Ok folks, enough with the DRM crusade already! You've made your point very clear. Any future rants or +1's will be kindly forwarded to a special forum thread that I'm going to create shortly where you can debate to your hearts content :-)

There are customers here that have specific questions about functionality and features, please keep this comment board useful for them.

Thanks for understanding.

-r

BitsDuJour Admin - Nov 12 2010 at 12:48am Copy Link

Mike G Quote: "... BdJ customers are very vocal... :) I always get good suggestions for new features." @Tim Haughton

I think Tim has shown during the run-up to this discount that DOKIX is very responsive to suggestions--making one update with a supporting utility and posted announcement on their website within days of a suggestion being made here.

We've also seen a great deal of flexibility/leeway in the way DOKIX enforces licensing to prevent it from being an inconvenience to legitimate customers.

These things together with overall elegant design have me just about ready to purchase HDM. Just a couple more follow-up questions/requests:

What did you think of the smart folder idea (described in more detail in my second post)? For one thing, this concept integrates folders and tags and eliminates the possibility of needing redundant folder and tag structures.

This could also be implemented as smart tags, where creating a tag would automatically index every document in the library containing that word. Another idea is being able to add tags by right-clicking one or more selected documents. The new tag would automatically appear in My Tags with the documents in it. Are any of these possible? They are not mutually exclusive. Eventually having all three would be awesome!

Anything to avoid manually dragging and dropping individual documents onto tiny tag icons or, God forbid, dragging multiple documents onto multiple tags. Currently HDM won't even scan directly into a selected tag to eliminate this step. (When I tried it, the scanned document just disappears!)

Then again, I could be missing something and making this tagging process harder than it needs to be. In that case, I'll go back to the need for a simple help document. ;-]

Another major issue for me is HDM will not currently create a multi-page document. Every scanned page becomes a seperate file. It appears one one would have to purchase PDF Scan Pro or some other product just to clean up the mess and combine pages into one file!

Finally, there is no way to correct OCR errors or even view more than the first few lines of OCR text. If accuracy were at least 99.0% it wouldn't be much of an issue, but accuracy appears to be well below that in several test documents (official type-printed documents).

Any plans or suggestions for addressing these issues?

Nov 12 2010 at 1:28am Copy Link

TopDog The vendor is very responsive to customers. Implementing changes based on input from BitsDuJour comments shows me this program will continue to evolve. DRM is not an issue for me. Since the trial version of the software works so well and this program has fantastic support, I'm in. I see this program being the answer to organizing the myriad of documents hiding on my machine. I have tried other such programs and they have fallen short.

Just like to note one more thing that has been mentioned before. As to editing, many of the documents I scan come in the mail and the crease from paper document being folded shows up in the scan. HDM does a excellent job of OCR but it would be nice to be able to remove such artifacts such as dark lines in the scanned document that were creases in the original paper document.

Thanks for putting this software up for sale at such a hefty discount.

Nov 12 2010 at 2:25am Copy Link

Tim Haughton Thanks for the continued suggestions, that's what makes BdJ so valuable for independent software vendors.

I've just released an update which adds support for plain text (.txt) and Rich Text Format (.rtf) documents. Home Document Manager will update itself when an Internet connection is present.

Thanks again.

Dokix Inc - Nov 12 2010 at 2:49am Copy Link

Glen Coulthard Does your software support the Fujitsu ScanSnap scanners? I use the S300 and some WIA/Twain-based software does not work. Have you tested the ScanSnaps?

Nov 12 2010 at 2:55am Copy Link

Tim Haughton @Glen - the definitive answer is...yes. And no.

As you've seen, Fujitsu don't make WIA/TWAIN drivers for the ScanSnaps so Home Document Manager can't talk to the scanners unfortunately.

All is not lost, there is a workaround using Home Document Manager's "watched folder" feature.

http://scansnapcommunity....-scansnap/

Dokix Inc - Nov 12 2010 at 2:58am Copy Link

Tim Haughton @Mike G - "I think Tim has shown during the run-up to this discount that DOKIX is very responsive to suggestions--making one update with a supporting utility"

Two updates now, TXT and RTF now supported ;)

"What did you think of the smart folder idea"

I think a good way to do it would be to allow rules based allocation of tags and placement in folders. Like it.

"Another major issue for me is HDM will not currently create a multi-page document."

HDM will create a multi-page document if you have an automatic document feeder. I'm aware of the gap of scanning a multi-page document if you don't have an ADF. Will look into it.

"Finally, there is no way to correct OCR errors or even view more than the first few lines of OCR text."

Yes, this is an idea that I like. It's non-trivial, but a good idea.

Dokix Inc - Nov 12 2010 at 3:55am Copy Link

Mike G Thanks, Tim. You've inspired me to give HDM a try.

Nov 12 2010 at 5:00am Copy Link

Peter Blackledge After running setup.exe, download is halting at 43.2Mb - I've had the same result on two PCs, having tried several times this evening. Is there a problem with the download server? Extract from the installation log:

ERROR SUMMARY
Below is a summary of the errors, details of these errors are listed later in the log.
* Activation of http://www.dokix.com/depl...pplication resulted in exception. Following failure messages were detected:
+ Downloading http://www.dokix.com/depl...pplication Files/HDM_1_2010_11_1/WPFToolkit.dll.deploy did not succeed.

I would like to try HDM before the BDJ discount expires!

Regards,
Peter

Nov 12 2010 at 7:18am Copy Link

Randall Schoonhoven After reading all of the preceding comments, I think I will go ahead and purchase, but I must say that I am disappointed by the lack of detailed information to be found on the publisher's website. There is not even an FAQ. I think basic questions such as have been raised here regarding locations of repositories, types of files supported, how the DRM is implemented, sharing of repositories, etc. should be addressed proactively. Other questions that would seem reasonable to expect to see already addressed would be whether the software supports storing the repository on a NAS (via UNC path versus mapped drive), what is a reasonable expectation for document capacity (both in terms of the size of an individual doc and the number of docs in a repository), and whether the docs are kept in their native format or imported into some kind of proprietary database. The dearth of provided information seems genuinely odd. But, given the BDJ price and the money-back guarantee, I'll go ahead for now . . .

Nov 12 2010 at 12:16pm Copy Link

anthonyraynor? @Anthony.
This is what drives me away from the product. I use PaperPort despite it's own problems, specifically being a resource hog and high price. However, it is an integrated document manager with editing abilities built in. I don't really understand why these are 2 separate products at their respective price points.

Nov 12 2010 at 2:39pm Copy Link

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