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Mr. Yoop Any chance to get a discount on the new The Bat! Pro Edition or at least on the upgrade offers? This would be really a great deal...


Mr. Yoop
Jul 22 2012 at 12:55am Copy Link
Joris Yep, me too! I'm waiting for the Bat! Pro Edition...
Jul 22 2012 at 5:12am Copy Link
Rustem Faz Same question (discount for update pro to newer versions). :)
Jul 22 2012 at 7:17am Copy Link
Scott Youngman Can TB import emails and address books from Eudora 7? (The website says up to Eudora 6.)

Can TB have multiple user-defined address books, all accessible at the same time?
Jul 22 2012 at 1:40pm Copy Link
Glen Hilton Same again. Discount for update/upgrade to new version or Pro.
Jul 22 2012 at 3:09pm Copy Link
Jan-Christoph Ihrens @Scott Youngman: In the Import Wizard, no version number is named; it just says "Eudora Lite/Pro". I didn't try it, though.

You can open as many messages as you like, each in a separate window.

I think it's impossible to have more than one folder open at the same time. The tabs at the bottom represent filters. Below the folders area there's for example a tab for just showing the folders that contain new messages. The ones below the messages list are more flexible; you can define your own filters. There you can also define the source (current folder, specified folders, subfolders, ...)

I'm using the Pro Edition, so I'm not sure which features may be missing in the Home Edition. According to the feature comparison list (, the features I mentioned should all be there, though.
Jul 22 2012 at 7:43pm Copy Link
Zsolt Szabo I can't set Exchange ovet Internet in The Bat!. Is it impossible?
Jul 23 2012 at 12:31pm Copy Link
ron r What makes this program better than ThunderBird portable?

Can this program run portably? (So i do not have to re-install it every time I do a reinstall of my PC).

Is it possible to automatically create folders based on the mails you already have in your gmail account and then move emails automatically based on the created folder. The folder names needs to the same as the sender or the same as a string that exists in a message.
Jul 23 2012 at 4:11pm Copy Link
Jan-Christoph Ihrens @ron r: It depends on the point of view... :) What I like about "The Bat! Professional" is that I can automate many things and that I have a lot of control about what's happening.

There is a portable version, "The Bat! Voyager" (, but it's not part of the Home Edition.

I don't think you can create folders automatically (I never tried it, so I might be wrong). When the folders already exist, you can create filters and apply them to existing mails.
Jul 23 2012 at 8:27pm Copy Link
Greg Zavado Is possible to upgrade from home to pro version?
Jul 23 2012 at 11:36pm Copy Link
Scott Youngman As a potential new user of TB considering migrating years worth of emails from Eudora, I'm concerned about the very limited information available on TB's web pages about what it can do and how it works. That makes me feel I will be on my own, with little documentation or help, if I move to TB.
Jul 24 2012 at 6:57am Copy Link
Roberto i was a thunderbird user until i moved to the bat. Take a look to the antispam snipper too, great plugin.
Jul 24 2012 at 7:07am Copy Link
T J Hi, what advantages over Thunderbird does Bat! provide? Thanks!
Jul 24 2012 at 7:29am Copy Link
James Elson A bit disappointing that no one had received any response from the vendor.

I was rather interested in this...
Jul 25 2012 at 2:20am Copy Link
VLM ron r - Mozilla has just downgraded the Thunderbird project, and many TBird developers are being moved onto other projects, mainly FirefoxOS. Although I shudder at this decision, it is what it is. Just FYI.

I agree with Scott Youngman, not enough information appears to be available. For example, in my case I REALLY use Outlook rules. I do NOT love Outlook, the underlying infrastructure is awful, it's a dinosaur, and I would be HAPPY to replace it. But I also don't wish to jump from the frying pan into the fire.

So ... if anyone out there who has tens of thousands of emails, hundreds of folders in multiple top-level folders (PST files in Outlook), and uses lots of rules would be willing to describe a migration experience from Outlook to TB, or share a comparison of the two products, I would be most grateful!

And I agree with James Elson ... Oh where, oh where has our vendor gone ... ?
Jul 25 2012 at 2:48am Copy Link
Richard Andersen @Scott

I migrated from Pegasus, also several years of mails and a lot of maillists, and a newer version than the one listed, no problems.

You could install the trial and give it a try, it shouldn't affect the old mailbox to migrate, as it just imports the mall folders. But as always, better make a backup first anyway, just in case.
Jul 25 2012 at 2:51am Copy Link
VLM Just found extensive documentation on TB filtering functionality, helpful.
Jul 25 2012 at 2:55am Copy Link
random user Is there a Calendar component to The Bat? Lightning was one of the reasons I migrated from Pegasus to Thunderbird many moons ago, but Thunderbird has never been as solid a product as I would have liked, so I have been looking for an alternative.
Jul 25 2012 at 4:31am Copy Link
Steven Avery Hi,

Interesting. While there are five filter types, nothing really corresponds to "Manual" in Eudora. I like to use a two-stage filtering system, and manual takes the whole keboodle from stage 1 to state 2 (some read, some unread).

What is the most important "pro" feature missing ? Does the spell check run identical once you do the manual install. Making that a distinction seems a bit hokey.

Any Eudora users, how do you find TheBat! on :

a) filters
b) search
c) composing
d) having mail from multiple mailboxes all filtered into one system
e) generic data format ( e.g. .mbx ) and stability

I'm not that concerned about "import" as I would happily leave my gazillion messages in Eudora.

I did run into a funny glitch in composing in Eudora with multiple inline pictures so this does interest me ... on top of the long-range question of Eudora undeveloped, ... can we paste pictures right into TheBat! editor ? (Abbyy Screenshot Reader will send a pic to the clipboard, then I paste them in).

And I know TheBat! has a good techie reputation, with some capabilities above and beyond.

Jul 25 2012 at 4:49am Copy Link
Cheryl Rutherford I looked at the Home versus PRO versions and I think I will wait until the discount comes out for the PRO. Here's a review for the 5.1 Home version and I think I will pass for the PRO, IF they ever offer it her:
Jul 25 2012 at 5:24am Copy Link
bai bai I know The bat is a very good software.

But is it worth to buy now? I have used gmail for many years.

What is the real advantage of the bat?
Jul 25 2012 at 5:39am Copy Link
Nelson Carvalho I'd like to see a discount for update/upgrade to new version or Pro.
Jul 25 2012 at 5:56am Copy Link
Emil Kucera I am a long-time user of version 4 Professional - I, too, would welcome a deal on the latest Professional - though I must say that I am not aware of any urgent "must have" feature in the new version; 4.0 serves admirably.
Jul 25 2012 at 6:32am Copy Link
Jason Howard I'd purchase the Pro version if discounted. I'd really like the flexibility that Voyager claims to offer.
Jul 25 2012 at 6:48am Copy Link
Robert Reese When the Calypso email successor "Courier" finally died a few years ago, I tried all of the different email clients: Pegasus, Barca (WORST), The Bat!, etc. Incidentally, I went to Calypso from Eudora; I'd still be using Calypso if it hadn't died. :(

The only one that came close to meeting my needs was The Bat!

I have several email accounts, some with tens of thousands of addresses. The performance of the folders is very, very good.

There IS one issue I have with TB: because it is database driven, Windows crashing sometimes corrupt the database headers, so backups are very useful. However, TB has automatic backup settings, so any corruption is usually easily corrected.

I use the program for business, so I chose the Pro version. Apparently, there isn't much difference between the Home and Pro versions, according to RITLabs:

I've been promising my wife a good email program because she's tired of dealing with webmail, so I had to come grab the deal, and while I was here I thought I'd drop my two-cents and give praise where praise is due.
Jul 25 2012 at 6:49am Copy Link
no name I will wait for the PRO version too!
Jul 25 2012 at 7:47am Copy Link
Oversight13 Can TB import emails and address books from Eudora 7? (The website says up to Eudora 6.)

Not sure about 7, but you can use Aid4mail from Fookes to do this act.
Can TB have multiple user-defined address books, all accessible at the same time?

Is it possible to have more than one email message open at the same time (windowed, as in Eudora)?
Is it possible to have more than one mailbox folder open at the same time?
Yes, using a virtual folder, which displays the contents (filtered, if you want) of as many other folders as you define.
Is that what the tabs at the bottom are for?
No, the tabs are for quickly-filtered views of the contents of specific real or virtual folders.
I can't set Exchange over Internet in The Bat!. Is it impossible?
No, TB can talk to Exchange over MAPI.
Is there a Calendar component to The Bat?
Yes, and you can use it as a scheduler to perform programmed tasks.
I have used gmail for many years.
What is the real advantage of the bat?

You can easily automate (filter) heavy mail flows into/out of gmail, and/or any POP3 account you have, much more extensively than any other desktop email client. You don't need to give up Gmail, but once you start handling Gmail accounts from TB, you'll never go back to Google's web interface.
This review is about 95% accurate:
The Pro version offers almost no real advantage, though I use it. If you are into hardware crypto tokens, go Pro, otherwise, having to separately download a different language speller dictionary, one time, is no big deal. The commercial vs. home use restriction is impossible to enforce. Let your conscience be your guide.
Does the spell check run identical once you do the manual install?
Making that a distinction seems a bit hokey.
I agree.
Any Eudora users, how do you find TheBat! on :

a) filters
Nothing is superior to TB filtering and macros.

b) search
Nothing is superior to TB search; you can also specify a virtual folder be automatically built to hold the results of any search you run. Searches can be saved and rerun.

c) composing
Text and HTML composition is there, but I don't use HTML to compose, but I do read HTML mail.

d) having mail from multiple mailboxes all filtered into one system
Piece of cake.

e) generic data format ( e.g. .mbx ) and stability
TB uses its proprietary .TBB format, but other mail filter tools like ABC Amber and Aid4Mail can handle it fine, or you can export .TBB files to other formats such as .eml. mbox, etc. The format is an indexed database, so you can automatically specify compaction (removes wasted space from deleted messages) on a folder-by-folder basis, or globally, to save disk space and speed up operation. I have 500K messages in TB, built up over 10 years, have never lost a message. I run backups every 3 days, have used the resultant DB to move my messages to new machines several times.
Regarding message encryption, if I encrypt a message inside TB, what happens when that message arrives on the desktop of a user who does not use TB? Does that user simply need a prearranged password? Or ...?
The user needs a S/MIME and OpenPGP or "regular" PGP-class program to decrypt the messages. These are built into many mail clients, or you can use a standalone program.
Is possible to upgrade from home to pro version?
Yes, but you'll probably never need to.
Jul 25 2012 at 10:04am Copy Link
Nelson Carvalho About the Postponed sending.
I would like to know if I can schedule sending emails in future dates that recur. For example: I schedule a birthday date and every year the message is sent, without need to schedule again the next year.
Jul 25 2012 at 11:31am Copy Link
Mark Marky Yep, I'd like to buy Pro version too.
Jul 25 2012 at 11:32am Copy Link
Robert Reese @Nelson: This is one of my favorite features, and it is very easy to schedule sending mails, either on a per-message basis or as an account setting. For a message you are sending, simply click the clock / stopwatch icon on the bottom too

@Stuart: AWESOME review! I concur, with only one exception: I have lost a few (~10) emails due to corruption; by the time I discovered those messages had corrupted headers, it was too late and TB had already been backed up with the bad headers. On the other hand, those messages were also more than a year old and didn't matter, so I didn't care to go digging through old backups to replace them. I have now have several methods to prevent message loss, backups being just a part of it.
lbar of the message window to reveal the different options.
Jul 25 2012 at 12:04pm Copy Link
Nico Westerdale Guys we're psyched to have The Bat! here on BitsDuJour, but just to let you know we have no plans to promote the Pro version yet. If you're waiting for that it might be some time (if at all!)
BitsDuJour Admin - Jul 25 2012 at 12:41pm Copy Link
Nelson Carvalho Thanks for the answer Robert Reese and Excuse my English.

Sorry if I insist on a detail. The example on the website of The Bat! it is possible to make a single schedule, simple. I would like to know also if it is possible a schedule that repeats yearly, monthly, etc. without the need of the user intervention.

Currently I use a good program called Reminder Commander, but it has some limitations.

Could you let me know more about this feature?

In advance thank you.
Jul 25 2012 at 12:50pm Copy Link
VLM Robert Reese & Stuart Pye - Great comments, thank you. I particularly appreciate the clarity about home vs. pro.

Nico - Thank you for clarifying about home/pro intent.

QUESTION: On the version comparison page, next to the heading "Possibility for hardware authentication
with mail servers", it says "The Bat! v3.5 and later support eToken Pro and iKey1000. In future The Bat! will support other hardware tokens."

What does this mean?
Jul 25 2012 at 2:29pm Copy Link
Constantin Florea @VLM Could you please try clearing your browser cache or try another brower while purchasing? I've just tested this in FireFox, Chrome and IE and noticed that the quantity can be modified in all of them. From experience I would say that this is a browser cache issue.
BitsDuJour Admin - Jul 25 2012 at 3:05pm Copy Link
Constantin Florea @VLM I am sorry about the post above. It seems I missunderstood it. You can modify the quantity in the Quantity field but there is indeed a red message saying that the maximum quantity is limited to 1 unit.
BitsDuJour Admin - Jul 25 2012 at 3:09pm Copy Link
Robert Reese @Nelson:

I haven't tried that feature, but since The Bat! has support for complex filters, rules, and templates so I have no doubt it supports this. However, let me play around a little bit and report back to see if I can have repeating emails or templates that get sent out on a schedule.

P.S., your English is fine, and sadly much better than many Americans. ;c)
Jul 25 2012 at 4:39pm Copy Link
James Elson One thing I did NOT find on The Bat's site is upgrades from Home to Pro.

Saw upgrades from earlier versions to newest both only for the same edition. :(
Jul 25 2012 at 4:45pm Copy Link
Robert Reese @Nelson:

First the good news: you can create custom schedules to send template-based email as well specific messages.

The bad news is that there is no setting for recurring mail. HOWEVER, you can set those recurrances manually, and do so very easily and quickly.

If I remember correctly, I think you can download the software, and try it out. The setting you want is under the "account properties" (SHIFT+CTRL+P) and find Transport Postponed Sending.

So, no, there is no automatic repeat setting, but it only takes a moment to make several repeating schedules manually.

Hope this helps! :)
Jul 25 2012 at 4:51pm Copy Link
Nelson Carvalho Hi Robert,
Once again thank you for your attention.
I believe this feature is not available in any e-mail client.
The Bat! can invest in this area, adding this functionality.
He already has the initial part.
A hug.
Nelson Carvalho
Jul 25 2012 at 5:08pm Copy Link
Michael R. Is it possible to have two ore more different databases (with completely different settings, email-accounts, etc.)?

So it would be possible to not mix up different usages, like work and private at the same computer and the same user.

If I install TheBat on two different computers of mine and they are connected via LAN, can the emails be synchronized?
Jul 25 2012 at 5:17pm Copy Link
Robert Reese @Nelson: Thank you for your hug; made my day! I'm glad I was helpful. :)

@Michael R.: Actually, each account (and folder) is run from its own database. The interface is singular. I have several accounts for different purposes, and have no trouble separating one from the other. I will admit, however, that it took a short period to get used to it; now I prefer this to completely separate windows.

As for syncronization, the answer is 1) yes, and 2) even better if you use a shared folder for the email storage.
Jul 25 2012 at 6:02pm Copy Link
Glen Hilton Hey Nico, I'm sure quite of few of us already have V5 standard. A nudge and wink to the vendor may well produce some good sales if Pro and or a Pro upgrade was offered at a later date. Thanks :)
Jul 25 2012 at 9:23pm Copy Link
VLM I have found a good reason to prefer Pro over Home: Voyager only runs with Pro. I realize that others probably figured this out earlier, but in case I'm not the only one, I'm sharing anyway.

And I just looked at the page, which contains upgrade options. There is indeed no obvious upgrade path from Home to Pro, though the incremental cost appears to be USD 10 (using list prices).

Has anyone actually upgraded from Home to Pro, in either version 4 or 5?
Jul 25 2012 at 9:43pm Copy Link
Robert Reese @VLM: That seems to be a localized issue for you; I've experienced no downtime with at all.

Jul 26 2012 at 5:08am Copy Link
Jan-Christoph Ihrens @Robert Reese: Now it's online again, but for some time I saw a message that a connection to the database wasn't possible. I don't think that was a local problem... ;)
Jul 26 2012 at 5:34am Copy Link
Alex Petrari (RITLabs) Scott Youngman wrote: "Can TB have multiple user-defined address books, all accessible at the same time?"

Answer: Yes, it is possible to create multiple address books and set them as the default ones for the respective e-mail accounts.

Zsolt Szabo wrote: "I can't set Exchange ovet Internet in The Bat!. Is it impossible?"

Answer: To be able to use Exchange in The Bat! it is necessary to have Outlook installed, because The Bat! uses the respective profile to connect with the Exchange server.

ron r wrote: "Can this program run portably?"

Answer: Yes, there is The Bat! Voyager, a portable version of The Bat! See
Aug 8 2012 at 8:56am Copy Link
Stan ... but Voyager is only available with The Bat! Pro.
Aug 8 2012 at 9:09am Copy Link
Alex Petrari (RITLabs) @Stan Lewis: Yes, but there is a way to upgrade the licence for the Home Edition to the Professional one by simply paying the difference, 10 USD.
Aug 9 2012 at 6:41am Copy Link
Mario Demi If buy now Version 7 is for free as shown on your website?
Jul 25 2015 at 1:41am Copy Link
Ritlabs, SRL Yes, the keys that we now issue are for version 7, and they also work from version 6.8.8 and on.
Ritlabs - Jul 25 2015 at 2:34am Copy Link
Gde Swart I always find it frustrating when a company excludes a version (in this case the Pro version) of their software from a BDJ deal. Why? There are many people here (including myself) who want to give you more money for additional features. Even if the discount is not as generous, we'd like the opportunity to pick up the pro version at a discount. You're leaving money on the table.
Jul 25 2015 at 2:56am Copy Link
Nuno Do you have a deal on the Pro version? In the older comments people could upgrade for $10 but now it costs €27.

Thank you!
Jul 25 2015 at 3:09am Copy Link
Rene de Vries Pro!Pro!Pro!


come on!
Jul 25 2015 at 3:47am Copy Link
PatrickB I have the pro version from 4-5 years.
the best email program for me.
I buy a license for my home laptop.
... sorry for my English

For information pro Vs Home:
Jul 25 2015 at 3:54am Copy Link
Nuno Patrick, I'm not French but I would like to thank you for the tutorial's links (I can read them perfectly but even if I couldn't translators would help).
Jul 25 2015 at 4:26am Copy Link
Ritlabs, SRL We had a promotion of "The Bat! Professional" at BitsDuJour in January 2015. We cannot run another promotion again this year. BitsDuJour does not allow promoting the same product that often.
Ritlabs - Jul 25 2015 at 6:20am Copy Link
Marshall Brown After visiting your site, I am not sure of the differences between the Home and Pro versions. Could you direct me to a comparison list/table, please?

Are you offering, or considering offering, the Pro version at the same discount?

Jul 25 2015 at 6:30am Copy Link
Nuno I'm a self-employed entrepreneur so I guess my emails are commercial and cannot use the home edition.
Bat Voyager would also be nice.
Jul 25 2015 at 6:46am Copy Link
Tim Parsons @Nuno: from what I recall -- I have a Bat! Pro license from a few years back -- if you want Voyager you have to buy Pro.

Voyager was actually why I stopped using The Bat! seriously. Because it encrypts messagebases by default, there's no usable mechanism for recovery when one gets corrupted -- something that happened to me three times and lost me several Gb email. Voyager is best used only for on-the-road email as a thin client -- and if all you want is a thin client you might as well use webmail -- unless you're heavily invested in The Bat!'s (admittedly stunningly good) automation facilities, I guess.
Jul 25 2015 at 7:19am Copy Link
Nuno Hello Tim, many thanks for your reply. Bat it just a plus, my doubt is what is considered commercial use as I work from home. The automation features are the enticement for me. I use Thunderbird with lots of add-ons, would pay a fair price for just a polished way of doing what I already do.
Jul 25 2015 at 7:25am Copy Link
Metta Zetty (1) How many of my customized settings in Eudora Pro will NOT be imported? For example:
-- Filter rules
-- Signatures
-- Reply Templates
-- Personalities, etc.
(2) Is it possible to edit the subject lines on incoming messages? (This is possible in Eudora.)
(3) Can HTML signatures be automatically added into messages from a program like WiseStamp or eSig?

(4) Can messages be converted into tasks?
Jul 25 2015 at 7:50am Copy Link
_*_ @Ritlabs, SRL, that is hard to believe since Bits runs StackSocial with the same exact offers over and over again. You might try asking as it seems stuff hits here more often then once a year.

Not that I personally use the Bat any longer (bought pro version here), but it may be worth an ask.
Jul 25 2015 at 1:58pm Copy Link
Constantin Florea @_*_, We do have rules for the scheduling frequency of products. In this particular case we cannot promote the Professional version in this period. We would have to wait more before discussing a possible re-promotion for that version with the vendor.
BitsDuJour Admin - Jul 25 2015 at 2:17pm Copy Link
Ricky Rick @ Marshall Brown

Differences between the Home and Pro Versions can be found here:
Jul 25 2015 at 4:16pm Copy Link
_*_ @Ritlabs, SRL, Is this statement true in the Fine Print area? If so, I would gladly come back to The Bat, but I am sure it is not true as it is in conflict with what is stated on your site.

"Upgrades to future versions of the software will be free for minor versions only. For versions after that, upgrades will require additional payment, which will be discounted by 70%."
Jul 25 2015 at 6:05pm Copy Link
Chris I would also like to know about this since upgrades on the site show $18.95 for the home version.
Jul 25 2015 at 8:22pm Copy Link
Marshall Brown Thanks
Jul 25 2015 at 8:37pm Copy Link
Ritlabs, SRL If you purchase the licence now, you will get futher minor updates of version 7 only. You will have to pay for version 8 and later. This is not correct that this payment "will be discounted by 70%". This upgrade payment will just be cheaper than the payment for the new licence at that time.
Ritlabs - Jul 26 2015 at 12:39am Copy Link
_*_ @Ritlabs, SRL, thank you for the clarification on the percentage off. For me personally 30% off is not a good deal and thus I stopped using The Bat.

I think you should give loyal customers who purchase your software and support your livelihood at least a 50% off upgrade. Even if you only offered it as a preorder upgrade price to the next version.
Jul 26 2015 at 3:57am Copy Link
Ritlabs, SRL This BitsDuJour promotion is for the new licence of The Bat! Home only. It gives you 50% off whatever currency you chose. The offer shows that you will pay $13.47, not $26.95 regular price. However, if you pay in Euro currency or Russian Ruble or other currency, you will also get 50% off from the list price in that currency.

This BitsDuJour promotion does not apply for the upgrade fee.
Ritlabs - Jul 26 2015 at 4:06am Copy Link
Chris I agree with _*_
I would have been a new customer because it used to show 70% off upgrades under the fine print. I'm glad he realized your upgrade policy was different on your site or I would have purchased and at a later date found out it was a
Jul 26 2015 at 4:46am Copy Link
Ritlabs, SRL I'm sorry that there was incorrect information in the fine print. We have corrected it. Thank you for pointing that out.
Ritlabs - Jul 26 2015 at 4:57am Copy Link
Chris My phone kept messing up. Here is the full post:

I agree with _*_
I would have been a new customer because it used to show 70% off upgrades under the fine print. I'm glad he realized your upgrade policy was different on your site or I would have purchased and at a later date found out it was a misprint. I already own lifetime upgrades of MailwasherPro and eM Client, so having to pay over and over for this is a deal breaker since I am on a limited income because of being disabled. If only it had of been 70% off of upgrades.
Jul 26 2015 at 8:03am Copy Link
Rustem Faz Ritlabs, SRL, you can "run a promotion" at some other place. :)
Jul 26 2015 at 8:45am Copy Link
Ritlabs, SRL I'm sorry for that really, I can make you full refund.
Ritlabs - Jul 26 2015 at 8:46am Copy Link
Metta Zetty I took advantage of this discount, and bought TheBat (Home) yesterday. Looks like I'm going to be very happy with this software!

However, before I attempt to migrate all my old messages and mailboxes into TheBat, I still would like to know: how many of my customized settings in Eudora Pro will NOT be imported?

For example, what will happen during an import to:
-- Filter rules
-- Signatures
-- Reply Templates
-- Personalities, etc.

Will they be left behind? Will they be imported seamlessly? Or will they come through in a modified form that will need to be tweaked and updated in order to function properly?
Jul 26 2015 at 8:54am Copy Link
_*_ @Ritlabs, SRL, I likely did not make myself as clear as desired.

I purchased The Bat! Pro on Bits (version 5).
I stopped using The Bat! due to the upgrade cost.

Simply put, I thought then and still think now that loyal customers who support you should receive at least as much courtesy as new users here on Bits who can purchase at 50% off.

A 50% off upgrade cost would be in keeping what new users receive. Treating your customers with the same respect and opportunity goes a long way.

Thus, the 30% off for current users is not sufficient as in my personal estimation people who already show support of you and your product by purchasing it should receive the same offer as those who are new to The Bat!

I hope that makes my reasoning a bit clearer.

I understand you can do whatever you wish, and the only recourse I have is to not purchase, but at least you know my thinking.

Thanks for hearing me out and I hope you do really consider this for the future.
Jul 26 2015 at 10:22am Copy Link
Ritlabs, SRL OK, thank you!
Ritlabs - Jul 26 2015 at 10:32am Copy Link
Steven Avery The commercial aspect is a bit of a difficulty. About 99% of my email is personal, Bible, forums, etc. 1% is biz. However, technically, that would mean I would be violating the terms.
Jul 26 2015 at 11:28am Copy Link
Javier Gil Can the bat import emails from my gmail account?
Can I use a gmail account with the bat?
Can you provide a a quick outline of the advantages of the bat over gmail? (i.e. why would anyone want to use the bat rather than gmail?)
Jul 26 2015 at 4:53pm Copy Link
Ralph Montague Would consider 6 licenses of PRO version...
Jul 26 2015 at 7:03pm Copy Link
Ritlabs, SRL @ Metta Zetty. You can import emails and address book contacts from Eudora. To import messages navigate to the "Tools\Import Messages\Mailbox Import Wizard" menu in the main window of The Bat! and to import contacts first invoke the address book and then select "File\Import from\Eudora Address Book".

There is no way to import filters, templates, signatures or personalities, however you can create them all in The Bat!
Ritlabs - Jul 27 2015 at 12:22am Copy Link
Cary Adams How compatible is this with GMail IMAP?

If a message has multiple labels are multiple copies of the message stored in folders corresponding to the labels?

If I delete a message from within a folder, will all presence of that message be deleted as within GMail?

Is there a page that explains this program's compatibility w/GMail?

What about Gmail contacts? Is there a hassle free method to import/sync contacts with Google's Contacts?

Can I have multile GMail IMAP accounts synced with this program?
Nov 10 2016 at 11:47am Copy Link
Al Lawrence Considering moving from Thunderbird to The Bat!

Can we import the Thunderbird databases or is this going to be a "start fresh" adventure?

Nov 10 2016 at 11:58am Copy Link
John User +1 on Al's question
Nov 10 2016 at 12:48pm Copy Link
Laurie Nelson I'm also considering moving from Thunderbird. I installed The Bat! today and started testing it, but almost immediately was told that the eval period had expired & asked if I wanted to send an email to extend testing for 10 days, which I did. Less than an hour later when I tried to receive test messages I had written in Thunderbird, I got a message again that the eval period had expired & The Bat! couldn't d/l messages.

I don't have time to spend hours evaluating The Bat! today, even though it looks like a program I would like better than Thunderbird. So this is a miss for me.

BTW I also tried to evaluate The Bat! back in March, but I couldn't even get it to work at all.
Nov 10 2016 at 2:02pm Copy Link
Bjondc Does Bat import email from Windows Live Mail?
If so does it do large batches (e.g. years of saved messages)?
Nov 10 2016 at 5:55pm Copy Link
Ritlabs, SRL @ Cary Adams Yes, The Bat is compatible with Gmail.

If a message has multiple labels, it will be present in the respective folders in The Bat!'s interface. If you delete a message from a folder in The Bat!, all instances of that message in the rest of folders (labels) will also be deleted on the server. There is no page describing how Gmail IMAP works in The Bat! Our program treats Gmail labels as folders.

You can create an address book in The Bat! and synchronize Google contacts, please see

You can have as many accounts in The Bat! as you need.
Ritlabs - Nov 10 2016 at 11:46pm Copy Link
Ritlabs, SRL @ Al Lawrence, yes, you can import folders with messages into The Bat! from Thunderbird via the "Tools\Import Messages\Mailbox Import Wizard" menu.

You can also manually import single folders via "Tools\Import Messages\From UNIX-mailboxes", just navigate to the respective Thunderbird's account folder and look for a file with the folder name, but without the file extension.

By default Thunderbird's mail data folder is located in Application Data folder, e.g. C:\Users\UserName\AppData\Roaming\Thunderbird\Profiles\9lb0uti5.default\ImapMail\
Ritlabs - Nov 10 2016 at 11:55pm Copy Link
Ritlabs, SRL @ Laurie Nelson Since you did evaluate The Bat! on that computer in the past, you get the message that the trial period has expired. Please follow these steps to make a new start with The Bat!: close the program, open the Windows Registry editor via "Start -> Run -> regedit -> OK" (press Windows+R to invoke "Run"), then navigate to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\...\ and delete the key "RIT". Start the program and create a new account to get things going.
Ritlabs - Nov 11 2016 at 12:00am Copy Link
Nico Westerdale Great News! Ritlabs has agreed to extend this deal for another day - Enjoy!
BitsDuJour Admin - Nov 11 2016 at 12:11am Copy Link
Ritlabs, SRL @ Bjondc We are sorry, The Bat! is unable to import messages from Windows Live Mail directly. You can import messages into The Bat! from .eml, .msg or UNIX files. There are many third party converters which can help you.
Ritlabs - Nov 11 2016 at 12:12am Copy Link
Laurie Nelson @ Ritlabs, SRL Thanks for the information, Ritlabs, but I was able to get The Bat! to continue working so I could evaluate it more. I decided to take a chance that I would be happy with it even though I wished I had more time to evaluate it and I purchased it about 3 hours before you decided to extend the deal another day. I haven't tried to import folders from Thunderbird yet, but I hope I can get it to work because that will cut my setup time a lot. Thanks again.
Nov 11 2016 at 1:18am Copy Link
HJ B It is shameful that, with a program of this type, there appears to be no effort by the developer to respond to reasonable questions.
Nov 11 2016 at 1:25am Copy Link
Nicolas Moisset Hi @Ritlabs, Does The Bat! allow to include HTML content without any filtering? I currently use Outlook which automaticaly deletes nearly everything wich is not simple display commands.
Nov 11 2016 at 2:41am Copy Link
Laurie Nelson @ Ritlabs, SRL I'm having a problem with The Bat! that I can't figure out. When I open it (or when I have it pinned to the taskbar), there is a "ticker" that runs across the bottom right side of the window, in the area of the message display. If I minimize TB, the ticker still displays in that area, for instance at the bottom of Firefox while I'm writing this. I unpinned TB from the taskbar and closed it, so the ticker stopped until I opened TB again.

I also restarted my computer, thinking that would stop the behavior, but it didn't. I'm using Window 10 and this didn't occur when I D/Led email from my gmail account. It started when I D/Led mail from one of my CenturyLink accounts. The "ticker" starts off with the total number of messages for that account and then displays the From and Subject lines for each message, along with the size and date.

How can I stop this? TIA.
Nov 11 2016 at 2:45am Copy Link
Ritlabs, SRL @ Laurie Nelson. You can disable the Mail Ticker under the "Options\Preferences\Message List\Mail Ticker" menu in the main window of The Bat! Either set it to "Hide" under "Display MailTicker" or deselect all folders after you press the "Folders" button.

Mail Ticker informs of new unread messages. You can drag the Mail Ticker to any place on the screen, re-size it, etc. More info:
Ritlabs - Nov 11 2016 at 4:05am Copy Link
John User OK, I downloaded the trial version of The Bat and installed. I set up two of my email accounts (Gmail and pop3) easily. I am in the process of importing all of my mail from Thunderbird.

As a long time (I think about 10 years) user of Thunderbird I have grown used to its features, etc. so there will be a learning curve with The Bat.

One question before I pull the trigger and purchase The Bat: I change locations twice a year. I have been using a program called Mozy to backup Thunderbird and Firefox (bookmarks) that enables me to easily update the computer at my new location every 6 months. Is there a similar program for The Bat or at least easy to understand documentation for backing up/updating?

Thank you.
Nov 11 2016 at 7:52am Copy Link
Vincent LEROY Thank you for this promotion, but do you have a promotion for the professional edition?
Nov 11 2016 at 10:11am Copy Link
Stephen Andrews Hi,

My partner has a lot of Turnpike emails ...and as Demon turnpike no longer exists she would like to import them into a modern mail program like yours this possible ....and is this possible in the home edition or would we need the pro edition.
Any help from any reader would be gratefully received.
Nov 11 2016 at 10:53am Copy Link
disenchanted @Stephen Andrews,

Check out AID4MAIL software from FOOKE's.

The sofware can import or migrate over 40 different email mailbox and data "types" into universal common email types. [see info at]

I used to have to deal with a ton of end user email issues, when I worked a help desk.
I could never get IT mgmt to pony up a few bucks for some Fooke's utilities, but I personally used Fookes software products at home and was very happy.

This Aid4Mail program is specially geared toward:
- migrating,
- backup,
- conversions of emails.

This program was hugely helpful when I recently moved. I had been with comcast for over 10 years, with 5 comcast email accounts and literally like 5 to 10gigs of email/data to backup.

I sent up aid4mail in under 5 minutes, to extract, backup both emails and attachments, from each comcast account. Then back that data up to an external HDD destination.
1. The program would log into each email account, sequentially
2. backuped everything in there [a few tic marks on aid4mail options and none of my spam or other useless email data was backed up, nor converted].
3. the entire sets of backup data from each email account was searchable using aid4mail.
4. If I wanted, I could create a few free, web based email accounts like yahoo or gmail, then use aid4mail to migrate [push out] my backed up comcast email and related email data, into a different vendor email account

Side Note: It would be great to see the Fookes software here on BDJ sometime. It is really handy and extremely time saving.

Best of luck
Nov 11 2016 at 8:53pm Copy Link
Ritlabs, SRL @ John In The Bat! there is a built-in feature to backup/restore data (see the "Tools\...\" menu). If you restore to an account with the same name, then the program will add only the missing data (folders, messages, etc).
Ritlabs - Nov 13 2016 at 11:18pm Copy Link
Ritlabs, SRL @Vincent This time the promotion is for The Bat! Home Edition only.
Ritlabs - Nov 13 2016 at 11:18pm Copy Link
Ritlabs, SRL @Stephen Andrews We are not familiar with Turnpike and we don't know in which format the email ares stored on the disk. If these are UNIX file as in Thunderbird, then you can import messages from folders one by one via the "Tools\Import Messages\From UNIX-mailboxes" menu in the main window of The Bat!
Ritlabs - Nov 13 2016 at 11:23pm Copy Link
GrandMaster Nice client, using it as trial now, however I have no interest in home version. Pls give Pro version discount and I will buy.
May 11 2017 at 12:16am Copy Link
NorkDorf I'll buy the pro version for sure, is the pro version going to get discounted?
May 11 2017 at 3:08am Copy Link
disenchanted Hi,
I have a few questions before I purchase.

1. Is this program mostly for pc users that like to download their emails from their ISPs, including web-based emails like Gmail or Yahoo, to their home desktop or laptop computers? Then delete those same emails from their ISPs.

(I ask because desktop-based email programs reminds me of the era BEFORE all the free web-based email vendors like GMAIL and YAHOO existed, and/or offered their FREE online web-mail platforms with current Giga byte capacity limits that extend to like 5GB or 10GB.
During the older email times, the only option an internet user had was getting email accounts with thier local ISP. Things were mostly analog dialup for home internet users. I remember I HAD TO download my "local ISP held" emails TO my HOME PC. Then I could finally open and read them.Back in those dial-up days I personally used Eudora)

2. Now that GMAIL and YAHOO offer such large email account capacities, I normally just started using them and I'd leave my emails plus attachments all online.
Note: I do perform backups of all of my web-based email accounts via Aid4Mail to my home PC, then archive that data.

a. Does The Bat offer the ability to download emails from Yahoo and GMAIL, YET also LEAVE those same emails on YAHOO and GMAIL?

3. I am getting overwhelmed with email accounts with both my GMAIL and YAHOO accounts. I loathe the crappy way of filtering both Gmail and Yahoo use, so that I might better be able to find the IMPORTANT EMAILS that I both want and that I need to respond to.

I'm thinking that if I do get a program like Bat and start download the emails, to my laptop at home, then filter them using Bat [and/or search programs using regular expressions], I'll be able to get a better handle on doing filtering, all in one place. And regain control of my emails.

4. Can a Bat user setup your Batprogram to do the following:

a. Download emails from Gmail & Yahoo accounts but also leave those same emails on the gmail & yahoo servers?. [like corporate users can do with in-house corporate based windows servers and desktop windows clients]

b. Then perform the filtering, once downloaded to one's local PC/laptop, via Bat's built-in filters? [Bat's sounds to have a much better filter setup than what either gmail or yahoo offer]

c. Can Bat download multiple gmail and yahoo email accounts, each into their own BAT mailboxes?
[I have a couple Gmail accounts and a couple yahoo accounts]

Thanks in advance
May 11 2017 at 12:13pm Copy Link
Scott Youngman I have considered TB several times in the past, most recently in 2015 when Eudora wasn't working well with Gmail. At that point I ended up switching to Pegasus. Lately I have been increasingly dissatisfied with Pegasus as well, but I hadn't thought of changing email programs until I saw this offer today -- and TB had not even been in my mind as a serious option. But after reviewing TB's features, I decided it could solve my problems with Pegasus so I purchased a license plus one for my wife. That would not have happened without BdJ reminding me about TB through this offer. Thank you!
May 11 2017 at 1:33pm Copy Link
Ritlabs, SRL @GrandMaster and Sam, this time around there is only the Home Edition on offer. You can take a look at the differences between the editions here:
Ritlabs - May 11 2017 at 11:07pm Copy Link
Ritlabs, SRL @disenchanted, the answer is "yes" to all your questions.

In The Bat! can can create either POP3 or IMAP4 accounts. Even in POP3 accounts by default the downloaded messages are left on the mail server.

Both in POP3 and IMAP4 accounts you can set up filters to copy/move messages to folders and execute other actions. More on filters:

The Bat! handles each email address as a separate account, in other words you need to create separate accounts for each email address you have. We believe this is a better solution, than mixing messages from a dozen of email addresses in one huge "Inbox", though if needed, The Bat! can do that as well.

Keep in mind that when you create new accounts in The Bat! the IMAP4 protocol will be used by default.

The Bat! supports OAUTH for Gmail, so we suggest you make use of it:

Press F1 anywhere in The Bat! to get relevant help topics.
Ritlabs - May 11 2017 at 11:25pm Copy Link
Roberto I use this email software and buy licenses for "my clients" too. Super solid. Last month I went to thailand and moved my desktop emails to the laptop. It was a breeze, fast and no further config. I'm a super happy camper with The Bat.
PD: I know i post here on every bat deal, but I really appreciate those guys.
May 12 2017 at 12:20am Copy Link
disenchanted Thanks for the response to all of my questions.

I had actually decided to simply BUY your program, about 5 minutes after I submitted those questions.

I KNOW that a person could take he time to learn HOW both GMAIL and YAHOO setup their email program's interfaces, filtering, separating files into new folders, etc, etc.

But I just get tired of having to take the time to set everything up, only to find I hate the way either GMAIL or YAHOO decided to configure their programs.

So I'd rather learn just ONE program, (BAT) direct it toward all of my online email boxes and "let it Rip".

Your offer here on BDJ reminded me that I needed to run another backup on both my Gmail and Yahoo [using aid4mail].
Naturally both websites have "tweaked things" since my last backup. things that caused my backups to error out. The gmail issue was resolved quickly but the yahoo issue required me to submit a "how do I fix this error message"? to fooke's support.

I plan to go back to your website after test driving the Home version. Then upgrade to Pro by month's end.

Thanks for offering your program here on BDJ.
May 12 2017 at 2:10am Copy Link
John User I came over to The Bat about a year ago after using Thunderbird for many years. I could not be happier with this program although I have to say there was a learning curve and I probably have only scratched the surface of its capabilities and features.

I am having one strange issue I have not seen addressed in the HELP section. Often when I exit the program (using the File/Exit command) The Bat starts up again. This can happen several times before I am finally exited. Any suggestions on how to stop this?

Again, do yourself a favor and give this outstanding program a trial run!
May 12 2017 at 5:50am Copy Link
Ritlabs, SRL @John, there might be an issue, we suggest you contact the support team via "Support -> Customer Support Center" at
Ritlabs - May 12 2017 at 7:00am Copy Link
Ed Dupuis Well, I gave this a go and purchased it.
That being said, this is the first email client in a long list that I have been unable to configure to get my mail. And I have been doing this computer gig a long time.
My settings, which work on my two existing clients, don't work here.
SO my initial impression is one of disappointment.
I have submitted a ticket with the logs and now I will get to see how good the support might be.
Best of luck.
Someone send out the Bat Signal!
May 13 2017 at 2:10am Copy Link
franp User This is a fantastic piece of software, the absolute best e-mail client, that I used and upgraded for 15 years, but gradually leaft the day i understood the developpers will never implement a much needed feature : the ability to edit received mail without altering the received date. Too bad. If you d'ont need that feature (I don't know how it is possible to properly manage received mail without editing received mail at some point but, anyway), jump in this offer !
Oct 24 2018 at 1:20am Copy Link
Software Lover Is the home version capable to import from EmClient ( ?
Oct 24 2018 at 1:52am Copy Link
styrobrain @franp User, can you please explain briefly how editing received mail helps to manage it? (I think this is on topic.)
Oct 24 2018 at 2:20am Copy Link
Ritlabs, SRL @Software Lover, you can import messages from eM Client into The Bat! via the "Tools\Import Messages\From UNIX-mailboxes" menu. Select the respective message base files and The Bat! will import emails from them. At this point there is no direct import facility for eM Client.
Ritlabs - Oct 24 2018 at 3:53am Copy Link
Mark User Could any of the The Bat! users please let me know if all the attachments are kept in one folder, like in Eudora?
Most email clients do not, and I would like to know this before deciding on the purchase. This is important to me from the usability and convenience point of view. Thank you.
Oct 24 2018 at 5:04am Copy Link
Ritlabs, SRL @Marek, by default The Bat! keeps the attachment files withing the respective folders' database files. However, you can set The Bat! to keep attachments separately from messages under the "Account\Properties\Files & directories" menu, this way all the attachments of that account will be stored in a single folder.
Ritlabs - Oct 24 2018 at 5:09am Copy Link
John User I used Thunderbird (free) for many years. Then I switched to The Bat (not free, but inexpensive) and really liked the improvement. I had been using it for a few years and cannot say anything negative about it.

However, truthfully, I tried out Mailbird and I find there is a lot I like about that email program too. So, now, depending on what I am doing I use each program. It is hard for me to write the pluses and minuses of each program though.

I suggest you give The Bat a try. There is a bit of a learning curve and I am sure I have not learned everything, but it is an excellent full-featured email program...but so is Mailbird.;-)
Oct 24 2018 at 8:25am Copy Link
Robert Crombie I find gmail frustrating. They are letting young programmers invent/play with the design of the interface.
Can your program become the interface for a gmail account ?
Will it safely/completely import all existing gmails ?
Will it be flawless in the downloading of the future emails ?
IE there is no syncing problems, no lost mail ?

Oct 24 2018 at 9:16am Copy Link
Adrian Williams will the pro version be on offer anytime?
Oct 24 2018 at 9:28am Copy Link
franp User @styrobrain : ability to edit received mail is unvaluable in many situations. Imagine you receive job offers in batch e-mails.
You could edit the e-mail, delete unrelevant jobs, anotate jobs you postulated for over several weeks, copy-past answer along with the original mail (much better solution than threads) and so on.
In facts, being able to edit received mail rermoves the need for separate programs in many instances and make the e-mail programm the center and only software in many taks.
I do not understand why Ritlabs did not already felt the advantage of turning the e-mail software into one of the central software of the user experience.

I (reluctantly, for it is a very good e-mail client, probably the best one) turned from The Bat to Postbox only for this missing feature.

Once you get used to edit received mail youc annot turn back. It is like, say, turning from hard paper managment to pdf mangment.

The worst in this story is that The Bat already allows received mail editing. The problem is that when doing so the date and time of the e-mail is resseted to the current date and time, which completly breaks the whole idea. It is probably a matter of a few dozens of minutes of programmation for Ritlabs to correct this bad beahiviour but for an unknown reason to me they never did, never answered my call for this, never explained why they don't and probably never will for it would have been done for a long time if they understood our and their own interest in the matter..
Oct 24 2018 at 9:37am Copy Link
styrobrain @franp User: I understand you want to document the history of multi-step processes in a coherent way, and e-mails form the main body of that history. I recognize that as a challenge, and I have no idea how to master it.

Thinking about it, I would not alter received e-mails, because doing so I would consider forgery. If I could alter them, I would want to have a 'copy on modify' mechanism in place (like The Bat seems to apply).

I do remember trying to use mail drafts to capture process information in Outlook. Didn't work well.

By and large I would not expect an e-mail client to solve this matter. E-mail is just one of many possible communication channels, and I would expect an e-mail client to capture transactions on that channel precisely as they happen. Other channels may be phone calls, captured in notes, and snail mail, captured as scans. For tying these together, I would look for another kind of software... but don't really know what kind. CRM maybe?

Either way, based on your recommendation (among other considerations), I'll accept this offer :-) Thanks!
Oct 24 2018 at 6:19pm Copy Link
Dennis McKay @franp User: The only reason to modify a received email without changing the date/time stamp is for illegal reasons. If it is only data you want to change then the date/time should not be relevant. If Postbox offers this then I need to contact them about the illegal use of their email client. This is only from my Computer Forensic Investigator perspective.
Oct 24 2018 at 8:43pm Copy Link
Ritlabs, SRL @Robert Crombie, you can create in The Bat! an account for Gmail and select the IMAP4 protocol. This way you will have access to all the emails on the server. Since Gmail uses labels instead of folders and The Bat! has nothing but treat labels as folders, you will see the respective folders in the program's interface. If an email has several labels assigned, it will appear in several folders within The Bat! Just let The Bat! run and it will synchronize all folders with emails.
Ritlabs - Oct 25 2018 at 12:04am Copy Link
franp User @Dennis McKay Sorry to tell you, this is non-sense. E-mails are nothing but pure html and ASCII text. Anybody with sufficient knowledge can create a fake e-mail in Notepad ! Please do contact Microsoft for illegal use of their text editor. It is easier to forge a false e-mail than to properly forge a picture in Photoshop.
Oct 25 2018 at 12:56am Copy Link
Alex Smith Thank you for the information regarding the product
Oct 25 2018 at 3:22am Copy Link
Adrian Williams ive bit the bullet and bought a licence since no one replied to my earlier question about the pro version.
Oct 25 2018 at 3:24am Copy Link
István Radics Hello!

with this promo i can extend/upgrade my existing license the latest version?

i have version The Bat! Home 7.4.16 (64 bit)
Oct 25 2018 at 3:35am Copy Link
Ritlabs, SRL @István Radics, yes, you can upgrade your license for The Bat! to v8 Home Edition that way. In the end, the price in that special offer is lower than the usual upgrade price for the Home Edition.
Ritlabs - Oct 25 2018 at 3:45am Copy Link
István Radics @Ritlabs, SRL thx for the info!
Oct 25 2018 at 3:50am Copy Link

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