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Mary Wilson Looks like an interesting program. Was unable to see which versions of Word it works with.

Jan 20 2011 at 7:27am Copy Link

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Edwin Yip Hi Mary, as you can see under the big green 'buy now' button on the upper right corner, Writing Outliner works with all Word versions start from Word 2000 to Word 2010, except the 64-bit version of Word 2010.

Innovation Gear - Jan 20 2011 at 2:16pm Copy Link

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Ms Julie Exactly how does the NOTES folder work?

And, can comments be included in the Word file (using MSWord's innate capabilities)?

Jan 21 2011 at 1:54am Copy Link

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Edwin Yip Hi Ms Julie,

For example, for a large writing project you might have some notes stored in multiple files, and you can import them into the Notes folder of a Writing Outliner project.

And the Notes folder is created by default, it can be deleted if you don't need it.

Hope it helps.

Innovation Gear - Jan 21 2011 at 2:08am Copy Link

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Tazzie @ Edwin Yip .... Will you be developing compatibility with the 64-bit version of Word 2010?

Jan 21 2011 at 6:11pm Copy Link

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Edwin Yip Hi tazzie L,

Sure, but not a in a very near future, I think.

Innovation Gear - Jan 21 2011 at 7:08pm Copy Link

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Mary Wilson Was looking for infmormation on memory requirements on your web sight and could not find the information? Also how big is a normal file?

Jan 21 2011 at 11:11pm Copy Link

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Edwin Yip Hi Mary,

Writing Outliner has a small memory footprint, because unlike other programs that needs runtime libraries, Writing Outliner is a native Windows program.

As for a 'Writing Outliner project file', it's actually a SQLITE database that stores all your Word documents (.doc or .docx, depends on the version of Microsoft Word you have).

Sqlite database system is open source and it's the most common used desktop database on earth, that means you can extract all your documents from a Writing Outliner project files with all other Sqlite tools, no vendor lock-in here ;)

Innovation Gear - Jan 21 2011 at 11:26pm Copy Link

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Mary Wilson Like the fact that the sample data base is a Writing outliner as it has helped me start to use the program. Been trying it out as I found it pretty good at organize all of the material I have for a Mythology class I am taking. Lots of word documents. Like the fact that I can open one document and have everything organized for easy access and to look at other documents. Currently, I have a main system and a laptop. Do I need one or two licences? Can I save the outliner format to Dropbox so that I can use it both for my laptop and my main system?

Jan 22 2011 at 12:14am Copy Link

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Edwin Yip Hi Mary,

Glad you like Writing Outliner. Yes, Writing Outliner is licensed on a user basis and that means you can install Writing Outliner onto up to 3 computers of your own as long as you are the only user.

Innovation Gear - Jan 22 2011 at 1:31am Copy Link

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Peter Martin I am thinking of a unique use for the Writing Outliner. It is using it to transcribe or update multiple reports with similar headings.

Say I am transcribing monthly reports on 25 clients. All the reports have the same format and sections e.g. date, time, age, name, progress plans etc. the reports can have data that is static ie does not change or dynamic i.e. changes, or even very dynamic i.e. changes very fast.

Every month I have to update ie change only the dynamic parts of the reports. I will leave the static portions unchanged.

Using the program to update reports will expand it usefulness tremendously. Look at he industries that do monthly reports updates on clients. Medical, Legal, Financial, practically any industry to does monthly or intermittent progress reports updates will need something like this.

But, Using the program for about a day, I have noticed potential problems. When searching for words on the left portion the program the words highlighted are the right word but the sections do not coincide. example if I search the word prolactin, The section on the left (with the menu portion) would show "amylase, prolactin and" while the middle section where the body of the document is would highlight the word prolactin but in the a different section e'g' "FBS, Prolactin, Hgb." The portion in the right will have the word searched prolactin in bold while the word prolactin in the middle section (main portion of the document will have a blue highlighting, but the preceeding and the following words do not coincide.

Also when I import documents somehow the font changes. from arial to calibri and the spacing or veritical distance from a line to the next changes.

In addition to the above may I suggest some improvements.
It would be beneficial to be able to find and replace globally e.g. change say September to October in all the 25 documents/client reports. I would also suggest the ability to export or save all the 25 individual document/reports in doc or docx (in just a few keystrokes) so that these individual reports can easily be e-mailed as opposed to saving it as a wopri file. or saving the documents individually with a multitude of keystrokes.

You are in the right direction for something potentially big. Oh by the way I also enjoy using your mind visualizer program

Regards

Peter

Jan 22 2011 at 8:02am Copy Link

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Edwin Yip Hi Peter,

Sorry, my last attempt to post a reply failed and I didn't notice the failure...

Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts on using Writing Outliner, yes, Writing Outliner can be used very widely, as it helps writing all kinds of long/complex documents.

Re global replacing, it'll be added in the future versions, a must-have feature, I know.

Re exporting multiple documents, it's currently the top voted feature in the suggestion list on http://WritingOutliner.com, for sure it'll be added soon.

Re the searching problem, I'll check it out.

Jan 23 2011 at 3:37am Copy Link

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gail f This is REALLY awesome, can't wait to buy.

I have wanted something like for years for lots of related projects. I bought Liquid Story Binder, which I think is awesome 9has more/different features but it has a steeper learning curve. This fts right into what I need.

The website is well done and informative...great!

Jan 23 2011 at 2:18pm Copy Link

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Edwin Yip HI Gail,
I'm glad that you like it :)

Jan 23 2011 at 4:52pm Copy Link

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Michael R. Having bought recently the one and other - on the first look - similar stand-alone tool and thinking about, if (and why) I should buy another one, the answer surely would be, that I often use MS Word to write something and an extention to it's abilities would be quite useful.

So, do I understand it correctly, that all these documents in the outline projects are word-documents, i.e. there is nothing in such documents I can't do, what I can do in Word itself. I.e. I can use formulas, footnotes, headers, etc.. Is this correct?

Thank you...

Jan 23 2011 at 8:02pm Copy Link

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Edwin Yip Hi Michael,

Yes, all the documents in a project outline are Word documents (in future versions support for other types of files including pdf, images, etc, will be added) and you can use all Word's features as you mentioned above.

And Writing Outliner gives you project document management inside Word, you can add tags/icons/notes to your documents, use drag-and-drop to reorder the project structure (thus change the structure of your final output document when you merge compile the project), open multiple documents in the tabs, full-text search into all the documents, version-control your entire project, and so on.

And why Writing Outliner + MS Word is better than other similar standalone tools? Because you can utilize all MS Word's most powerful functions on earth, footnotes for example as you mentioned.

Hope it helps, and for detailed features description please check: http://writingoutliner.co...uments.php

Innovation Gear - Jan 23 2011 at 9:00pm Copy Link

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Peter Martin It says in the manual "You can do a backup manually or simply let Writing Outliner Word Add-in automatically do it for you upon closing a project if it's modified." How can you set up to back up automatically

Jan 24 2011 at 7:45am Copy Link

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Peter Martin Oh another. When searcning, Is there a way to get more words into the left outliner portion? It can be widened and yet show the number of words. That is a waste of screen real state and it is easier to scan the different documents of the project if there are more data (words) in the (left side) outliner, rather than look at the documents individually throught the center panel.

Jan 24 2011 at 12:56pm Copy Link

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Edwin Yip Hi Peter,

Re backup, please click the Menu button on the top of the left pane, and select 'Versioning within project file' - 'Backup settings'; You can also try the 'Copy project file to...' command which offers you a convenient way for duplicating the current project file as a copy (with time stamp postfix) to another folder.

Re. searching, do you mean see more words in each search result in the left pane?

Jan 24 2011 at 3:48pm Copy Link

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Peter Martin Re: Searching, Exactly what I mean. It is easier to zero in globally on specific search area. I.e scan the whole project for a certain word or topic with the left sided outliner rather than go to each document individually. sometimes the data that I want is several words away from the search word. Or sometimes it varies ie. the data I want can be the next word or even several words away.

One very last question or suggestion. I have created several macros in Office. Is there a way to apply those macros globally i.e. on all the documents?

Regards

Peter

Jan 24 2011 at 6:17pm Copy Link

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bsr007 Hi Edwin,

Can other files types other than Word documents (eg plain text files) be exported from Writing Outliner for MS Word?

Thanks for your help.

Kind regards,
Brenton

Jan 24 2011 at 6:55pm Copy Link

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Don Goddard Wow this looks like a very useful tool! Have you considered integrating a virtual notecard feature like SuperNoteCard uses?

Thanks.

Jan 24 2011 at 7:55pm Copy Link

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Edwin Yip @Peter,
Thanks for the explanation on searching.
Re. The macros question, I'll have to check.

@Brenton,
Yes, all file types supported by 'Word export filter' are supported, including .doc/.docx, .rtf, .txt (plain text), and so on.

Jan 24 2011 at 7:58pm Copy Link

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Edwin Yip @ Don Goddard,
A corkboard view in which allows you organizing notecards has been added to Writing Outliner recently, check this screenshot (enlargeable): http://writingoutliner.co...ftware.php

If this is not what you mean please let me know.

Jan 24 2011 at 8:01pm Copy Link

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Don Goddard Sorry for the previous post. It looks like Writing Outliner already have the capacity to move notecards around. You guys have thought of everything! There are so many features I need to read your website documentation more carefully.

Jan 24 2011 at 8:01pm Copy Link

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Sam Calabrese Looked interesting. After going to your website, reading the documentation, looking at the HELP section for other user experiences, I decided to give it a trial run. I installed the trial version about 30 minutes ago, loaded eight (8) Word 2010 .docx files (each between 1,800-2,200 words). Began to explore the interface and some features. Rearranging cards on the 'Cork Board' had zero effect on the document order in the Project pane. After less than 10 minutes the program began having severe trouble and began displaying error dialogue boxes. In particular, any right-click event in the application triggered an immediate error dialogue. What's more, it would not let me exit from Word without first exiting Writer Outliner - which was not possible because it was not responding. It would only display an error dialogue. I ended up going into Task Manager (TM) to shut down Word, and found the program had opened every document in a separate task. I had to terminate tasks one at a time, and then finally Word itself. Upon reopening just one file (Writing Outliner still active), it came up in the Word's file recovery dialogue. I exited Word and uninstalled Writing Outline. Then I had to open each file in regular Word to save it with no errors.

Jan 24 2011 at 8:25pm Copy Link

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Edwin Yip Hi Sam,
I'll be releasing a new version shortly to address some compatibility problems with Word 2010.

Jan 24 2011 at 10:01pm Copy Link

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Jon White Edwin, nice program. When purchased, how many upgrades are we entitled to? I noticed that you're regularly bug fixing and enhancing the software. Thanks -

Jan 25 2011 at 2:08am Copy Link

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Joran Toresen Edwin Yip said:

"As for a 'Writing Outliner project file', it's actually a SQLITE database that stores all your Word documents (.doc or .docx, depends on the version of Microsoft Word you have)."

Questions:
1) So, if the database is damaged, I lose all my documents?

2) Is it possible to open my Word-documents in another application? Or, how can I open my documents in another application than Word when the files are stored in a database?

Joran Toresen

Jan 25 2011 at 2:18am Copy Link

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Jon White Sorry - I found the licensing answer under "policy" tab above! Thanks -

Jan 25 2011 at 2:26am Copy Link

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Edwin Yip @Jon,
Yes, I regularly fixing and enhancing Writing Outliner, all customers receive free updates for one year start from the purchase date. And I send email notifications to all paid users when a significant update is available for download.

Jan 25 2011 at 2:46am Copy Link

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Edwin Yip @Joran,
A) The Sqlite database system is the most commonly used open source desktop database system adopted by big names including Google, Apple, Adobe, etc, it's very very stable;

B) Writing Outliner offers multiple backup options, you can manually or let Writing Outliner backup your project automatically; You can use the 'Copy project file to...' Menu to make a copy of your project file.

And in the upcoming version, you'll find a new function called 'Export Documents to Disk', which allows you with one or two click(s) to export all your .doc/.docx files to a folder in your disk.

In a near future I will also make an open source program to do the export, and upload it to the public, so that one can access all his/her documents without Writing Outliner.

Jan 25 2011 at 2:50am Copy Link

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Glen Coulthard I would like to install the software on both my desktop and notebook PC, which your license states is fine as long as it's non-concurrent use. My question is regarding the Sqlite database. Is it possible to store the database on DropBox or use some other synchronization method for ensuring that the same databases exist on both PCs. -- Thanks!

Jan 25 2011 at 3:10am Copy Link

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Jeff potts Really too bad it does not work with 64bit Microsoft word since it ships everyday on new PC's. I would have bought this program

Jan 25 2011 at 3:19am Copy Link

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Robin Miller I can't figure out how to enable Corkboard View. Help?

Jan 25 2011 at 3:58am Copy Link

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Edwin Yip @Glen,
Yes, Writing Outliner is licensed on a per-user basis. There is a little problem with Dropbox sync, I'll try to address it in the next version, but most of the time it works.

@Jeff,
64-bit Office will be supported in the future. Currently, in order to use Writing Outliner with Office 2010, you'll have to install the 32bit version.

@Robin,
Please Add a tab then select the corkboard view.

Thank you all for the comments.

Jan 25 2011 at 4:13am Copy Link

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Lj Wi I liked what Writing Outliner can do, but I encountered the same probelms in WORD 2010 as in a previous post. Many error messages. When do you think you will have an update that will work with WORD 2010?

Jan 25 2011 at 5:13am Copy Link

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K Bruns Hi,

I like your programm as well, but I did encounter problems in WORD 2003 as well (i.e. error messages, no way to continue working with Word 2003, could only close Word 2003 using the Task Manager.).

Please update one that works with Word 2003 asap, thanks!

Jan 25 2011 at 6:03am Copy Link

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Mary Wilson I just ordered this and went into my main account to get the e-mail that was suppose to be sent to me. No e-mail from you, but I did get an e-mail from PayPal which I used to pay for it. Went to your web sight to see what was going on and it says that the sight says "order has been delivered". If the order has been delivered, when am I going to get my e-mail with my registeration on it. Tried to create an account to get my access and they said they sent me an e-mail, but I have not received anything. what do I do?

Jan 25 2011 at 7:04am Copy Link

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Stephane M Well it seems to be a very interesting program but I cannot do anything with it. Each time I try something I get an error message.
I am using a 32-bit version of Word 2010.

Jan 25 2011 at 7:05am Copy Link

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M Owsley I would buy this if it had 64-bit support. It is just about the tool I have been looking for.

Jan 25 2011 at 9:38am Copy Link

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J Garband I run 64 bit Windows, but my installation of Word 2010 is 32 bit. Will your outliner work under this configuration?

Jan 25 2011 at 9:59am Copy Link

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Stephane M @J Garband

It is the configuration I have (Win 7 x64 running 32-bit Office 2010) and I would be interested to know from other users if it properly works.
For me, the add-in is installed and running but I am having difficulties to do something without having error messages.

Jan 25 2011 at 10:43am Copy Link

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lisba f I'm almost ready to buy, but oops... it doesn't seem to work with non Latin characters - is that correct?

Jan 25 2011 at 12:32pm Copy Link

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Edwin Yip @Lj Wi, K Bruns, Stephane,
I've just uploaded a new version 1.2.3.648 to address these errors, please download and try again, please also check the version number is correct after the update. To download the new version, trial users please go to http://writingoutliner.com/download.php; Paid users please check an notification email you received when ordering and you'll find the full version download link there.

Jan 25 2011 at 1:25pm Copy Link

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Edwin Yip @Mary Wilson,
The license delivery is handled by the payment processor, the delay maybe because of their order checking, or something like that. Have you got your license key now? You can send me your order number and I'll issue the license key immediately. Thanks.

Jan 25 2011 at 1:28pm Copy Link

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Edwin Yip @J Garband,
Yes, Writing Outliner works with Office 32-bit on a 64-bit Windows.

@lisba f,
Would you send me a screenshot about the problem? (Go to the contact page of http://WritingOutliner.com, Thanks.

Jan 25 2011 at 1:31pm Copy Link

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Edwin Yip @M Owsley,
The 64-bit Office support will be addressed in the future. If you don't have any special requirements I suggest you to transform to the 32-bit Office for now.

Jan 25 2011 at 1:37pm Copy Link

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gail f Justt started a new project combining all sorts of Word documents--this is really super and just what I needed. Runs fine on Office 2007, Win 7 64-bit.

Jan 25 2011 at 2:18pm Copy Link

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gail f Justt started a new project combining all sorts of Word documents--this is really super and just what I needed. Runs fine on Office 2007, Win 7 64-bit.

Jan 25 2011 at 2:18pm Copy Link

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Edwin Yip Hi Gail f,
Glad that you like it, let me know if you have any questions or problems.

Jan 25 2011 at 2:38pm Copy Link

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Mary Wilson I can handle waiting for a couple of days without the registration due to paying with Paypal. What I do not like is that you did not send an order confirmation number to my e-mail address. In addition, I tried to sign up for an on line access and this also said that an e-mail was sent but nothing was sent. Order number is Processing order no. 8697382

Jan 25 2011 at 9:13pm Copy Link

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Mary Wilson Still no e-mails and no registrations.

Jan 25 2011 at 9:13pm Copy Link

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Edwin Yip Hi Mary,
I'm afraid your email system is having problems receiving emails from some others, I checked the records and it shows that the license key has been sent to you. Actually, I just noticed that I myself also have tried replying your tech support emails many times in the pas weeks or so, but your mail system has always rejected my email also. I'm afraid emails sent from Avangate might also face this problem. I just now sent to you the keys and full version download link again, please check again. If you still can't get it, please contact me using another email address. Thanks.

Jan 25 2011 at 10:04pm Copy Link

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M K G ' am holding my breath for the repeat of this offer. :-)

Mar 28 2011 at 9:41pm Copy Link

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Chuck Waiting for this to repeat; hopefully soon...

Jun 12 2011 at 2:03pm Copy Link

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lisba f Office 2010 - 32 bit only! A dedicated to MS Word software! How so?

Jul 16 2011 at 2:26am Copy Link

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_*_ Does it now work with Office 64 bit? Looks nice, but need 64 bit. Thanks

Jul 16 2011 at 8:36am Copy Link

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Edwin Yip @lisba and M B,
Sorry, but 64bit Office isn't supported now, and it will be supported in the future. Actually, MS Office 2010 includes both the 32bit and 64 bit version, and using the 32bit version will allow you continue using all existing add-ins.

Innovation Gear - Jul 16 2011 at 9:16am Copy Link

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Daniel H From your web page.
Introductory Promo - Get [Writing Outliner] for $49 only!
Alternatively, Get [Writing Outliner] + [MindVisualizer] for $79 only!
Retail price mentioned here $79.
Is the discount for the bundle?

Jul 16 2011 at 12:46pm Copy Link

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Edwin Yip Hi Daniel,

The bitsdujour.com discount here is for Writing Outliner only.

Innovation Gear - Jul 16 2011 at 7:44pm Copy Link

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lisba f Still, no UNICODE?

Jul 16 2011 at 8:31pm Copy Link

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Edwin Yip Hi lisba,

Unicode is OK in the word documents, however, a few places such as the notes in the left side bar will not support some types of languages. This will be fixed in future versions. Thanks.

Innovation Gear - Jul 17 2011 at 2:43am Copy Link

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Charlie N Looking forward to this Deal becoming available. I hope you will consider putting up a discounted bundled price with MindVisulaizer that beats the one you now have on yor website.

That would be awesome! Please consider, both your products look very comprehensive.

Jul 17 2011 at 7:22am Copy Link

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Edwin Yip @Charlie,
Thanks for your interest in MindVisualizer mind mapping software, it will be promoted separately on BDJ soon.

Innovation Gear - Jul 17 2011 at 9:45am Copy Link

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mkappa74 What kind of license is it? for 1.x version? lifetime?
if not, what is the price of any update to major version?
thanks.

Jul 18 2011 at 5:44am Copy Link

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Edwin Yip @M C,
You'll get free upgrades for one year, after that the upgrade price would normally cost 40-60% of the initial price. Thanks.

Innovation Gear - Jul 18 2011 at 7:45am Copy Link

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Preston Mitchell Pls correct me if I am mistaken...but ESSENTIALLY, Outliner is a database for MSFT Word docs, yes? Outliner groups related Docs in their own 'database' called Projects. Is that an accurate, though broad, assessment of Outliner?

I INSTALLED the trial version...and I really like Outliner as an easy method for organizing & managing my Word documents.

MY ONLY COMPLAINT is that I hit the trial limitation and must wait for the full version to go up for sale to continue using Outliner! PLS hurry up and put Outliner up for sale.

LASTLY, I offer my compliments for producing an excellent piece of software for Word users.

Jul 18 2011 at 8:00am Copy Link

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Edwin Yip @Preston,
Yes, that's correct. In addition to Writing Outliner's document organizing features (outline, corkboard, tabs, document tags, icons, etc), you can also search anything in a project, for example, searching a word or a phrase, or even search by document properties (e.g. tag:important will give you a list of documents with the "important" tag)

and I'm glad that you like Writing Outliner, the promo will be available soon, I'd like to let you buy it right now, but it's out of my control here in bitsdujour.com :P

Innovation Gear - Jul 18 2011 at 8:31am Copy Link

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Tony Mackay WARNING! WARNING! DO NOT USE THIS WITHOUT SETTING UP AUTO VERSION BACK UP.

I imported a word document and started doing changes. I then checked the view folder tree and came back to my document and all the editing was gone. The programme then told me I had to turn on the version back up mode.

Completely stupid way of doing things - there should always be an auto back up by default.

Jul 18 2011 at 11:13am Copy Link

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lisba f @ Edwin Yip

Sorry, but 64bit Office isn't supported now, and it will be supported in the future. Actually, MS Office 2010 includes both the 32bit and 64 bit version, and using the 32bit version will allow you continue using all existing add-ins.

I don't recall if during installation of MS Office 2010 I was given an option to select 32 or 64 bit (I use Win 7-64). So can I ask, how I know which version I'm using and in case of 64 how I switch to 32, so that I make use of Writing Outliner (hoping that Unicode format will soon be available too). Thanks.
PS. Will my settings in 64 remain if I switch to 32?

Jul 18 2011 at 3:44pm Copy Link

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Edwin Yip @Tony Mackay,
I think there is a misunderstanding here, Writing Outliner stores its own copies of your imported documents, and changes inside a project will only affect its own copies (inside a lightweight database).

Innovation Gear - Jul 18 2011 at 9:08pm Copy Link

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Edwin Yip @lisba,

The 32 bit version of MS Office 2010 installs by default because it is the recommended version.

In your case, you think you can have a complete uninstallation of the current 64bit, reboot your computer, then install MS Office 2010 again, and choose the 32bit version.

And I'm not sure if your Office settings will remain or not after the switch, sorry.

Innovation Gear - Jul 18 2011 at 10:12pm Copy Link

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Edwin Yip @Tony Mackay,
Sorry, I might have misunderstood your question, and I've just released a minor version upgrade that fixes the problem you described here.

**** Fixed problems:
1 - A problem introduced yesterday – after the documents are imported, if you don’t close the File Explorer Tab and edit the documents, changes might not be saved.
2 - You might see the “SQLite Error 10 – disk I/O error” message after your windows system is resuming from sleep mode.

****Speed Improvements:
1 - Loading/switching documents are now faster, especially in MS Word 2007/2010.
2 - Switching between documents that are marked as ‘track changes’ are much much faster now!
3 - Highlighting the matches in a large document in a Writing Outliner project is now faster after doing a Full-Text Search.

Innovation Gear - Jul 18 2011 at 11:25pm Copy Link

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Rick Fleshin I use Word 2000. Is it compatible ?

Jul 19 2011 at 5:08am Copy Link

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Pat Weber I'm very intrigued by this software - two questions:

What if I just want to use Word to write a letter? Does this add-in make it so I have to use Word in this capacity always? Or can I "turn Outliner on and off?"

Also, I create documents using core / reusable documents and editing those for specific requirements (e.g., for grant writing). Is it possible to use already existing documents and can I maintain the contents of those documents through this software as well? I.e., I have a lot of "boilerplate" information that goes into then customized documents to be printed, bound and mailed. I'd like to be able to update this boilerplate as needed and still be able to use those updated documents in succeeding projects. Does that make sense?

Jul 19 2011 at 6:01am Copy Link

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bvssunnydale I'm interested but am wondering if it actually does outling - something like the old Grandview - wherein you could collapse levels or specific parts easily. The screenshot seems to show everything BUT actual outlining, except of topic headings (I actually don't use MS Word but am so desperate for a decent outliner that might consider switching if this would give it that capability). I'm also open to suggestions. Thanks.

Jul 19 2011 at 7:16am Copy Link

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Stephen Cohen This is not really an outliner. You might be happy with Noteliner (http://www.noteliner.org/i/Main.html) or Inspiration (www.inspiration.com). Also, see www.outlinersoftware.com .

Jul 19 2011 at 7:47am Copy Link

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Eddie Tex Wow! I had been waiting for Scrivener for Windows to come out of beta, then upon opening up the screen shots noticed this looks a lot like Scrivener.

I'll have to consider this software as well.

Jul 19 2011 at 8:18am Copy Link

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Eddie Tex For those worried about the lack of Office 64-bit support, you are in an extreme minority if you need Office 64-bit versus 32-bit. Edwin is correct that Microsoft recommends staying with 32-bit unless you're dealing with documents that are greater than 2GB in size.

If I'm not mistaken, Office 2010 installs in 32-bit by default. You'd have to specifically launch their 64-bit setup to do otherwise.

If you're not sure, open up Windows Explorer and go to your root C drive. You'll see two folders called "Program Files" and "Program Files (x86)." The first is for 64-bit programs and the latter (with the x86 suffix) is for 32-bit programs. Navigate to "C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Office\Office14" folder. If you see all the Office executables there, then it's 32-bit. If the folder doesn't exist or you don't see the executables (e.g. EXCEL.EXE), then you've probably installed the 64-bit variant.

Jul 19 2011 at 9:38am Copy Link

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Mary Wilson Although I agree that the Writing Outliner for MS Word is a very good program, I very reluctant over purchasing another set of codes for Writing Outliner and MindVisualizer as I have had massive amounts of trouble in the past over your customer service not helping me out in the past. Due to problems with Writing Outliner and no help I finally had to remove Writing Outliner from my system. Only after I filled out the e-mail that shows up saying why I removed the program did any offer of help appear. By then, it was to late and I had my fullfill of trying to get any help. In addition, I was also having registration code problems with MindVisualizer Standard that I purchased from you. After e-mailing the company numerous times for help with no response with the copies of my registration, i finally gave up again. I like both of the problems but can not afford to purchase them again as I want to use them and not spend most of my time trying again to get the programs working from a customer service department that does not answer my e-mails.

Jul 19 2011 at 12:48pm Copy Link

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Preston Mitchell Just bought Outliner after trying trial version.

UNFORTUNATELY, the Outliner Manual is not easy to use. It is a comprehensive manual. Nice idea to display the manual inside Word. Even so, it is hard to find specific info. For instance, I can't find any info about how to rename a Project! That basic edit should be easy to locate in the manual. (Offer a PDF version of Outliner Manual!)

How does one rename a Project?
I tried renaming the .woprj from Windows Explorer but the old Project name still appears when I open it inside Word! How lame! No easy way to rename a Project! I hope I don't regret buying Outliner!

When the left pane list of OLD PROJECTS becomes too full, what then? Can I archive old Projects (so that don't appear on the list)? AND if I can archive an old Project, how do I bring it back into Outliner-Word when needed?

Hoo boy, the devil is always in the details!
I am starting to become unhappy over some of Outliner's details!

Jul 19 2011 at 1:05pm Copy Link

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Preston Mitchell Getting ANNOYED with PAID Version of Outliner!!!

How does one rename a Project?

Can an OLD Project be with merged with or inserted inside a NEW Project?

Can OLD Projects be archived? Thus removing them from Left Pane's list of Old Projects? If so, how does one bring back and open an archived old Project?

Your Outliner Manual inside Word is a mess! Pls offer a standalone PDF version of your manual (that is searchable).

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Edwin Yip @rd fleshin, Yes, it's compatible with Office 2010 32-bit version.

@p Weber, yes, you can easily turn Writing Outliner on or off via the menu/ribbon tab.

Re #2, sounds like a 'Template' feature, you can have those template documents as normal documents in your computer, and import them in a batch using drag-and-drop when creating a new project.

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Edwin Yip @Wm Shore, not sure if I understand your question well, but in Writing Outliner you can collapse each outline nodes, just like the folder system in the Windows Explorer.

@Eddie Tex,
Thanks for the great info about Office 2010.

@Preston Mitchell, just right click on any of the items in the project list on the left side and you'll and menu items such as 'Rename Project', 'Remove From List', etc.

Innovation Gear - Jul 19 2011 at 1:38pm Copy Link

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Edwin Yip @Mary Wilson, your email system rejected all my email replies and I even tried sending you emails from a free email account, but failed. you can click the "Load 56 Older Comments" to find my reply on this BDJ page about your email server problem. Apart from emails, people can also check the Writing Outliner forum (http://writingoutliner.com/forum/) on how the users get supported.

Innovation Gear - Jul 19 2011 at 1:47pm Copy Link

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Preston Mitchell Thank you, Ed, and I am still glad about buying Outliner BUT....

Ok, I see how one renames a Project. Not from the drop down menu but rather by right clicking on the Project in the list of Old Projects to get a menu with the 'rename' option. ALSO, I see that that right click menu also has an option to 'remove' the Project.
BUT how does one bring back and open an Old Project after it is removed?

CAN AN OLD PROJECT BE MERGED WITH OR INSERTED INTO AN NEW PROJECT?

LASTLY, after renaming an Old Project, its new name does appear on the Old Project list...but guess what? When you open the renamed Project, its old name appears at the top of the left pane above the drop down menu! I assume that I discovered a minor bug...which is no big deal...in light of Outliners overall worth.

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gail f I purchased this the last time and really like it so far...for projects in the futue when I create new documents. Developer VERY receptive and involved.

@p weber
Re: using core / reusable documents and editing those for specific requirements (e.g., for grant writing) or of "boilerplate" information: I am struggling to figure out a good system/workaround for this...because you can and will end up with multiple copies!

File1 (your original), File2 (contained only inside the project database .worprj , also not sure if searchable on your desktop if inside project?).

If you revise File2 while in the project it's now different than File 1. You can export ALL documents at once, but the software renames it as "1. File2". (now 3rd copy! If you change it File2 inside project not changed).

You can export EACH document in the project and try to replace original....but you have remember which FOLDER File1 came from since the program doesn't remember!! I can't quite figure out how I can keep from ending up with hundreds of extra/renamed/slightly changed files without losing my mind!

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Preston Mitchell Ed, offer an searchable PDF version of the Outliner Manual.

A PDF manual would be so helpful...so I don't have to close out my Project to view the Manual inside of Word.

I still give Outliner a very high rating...excellent for heavy Word users.

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Edwin Yip @Preston Mitchell, you don't have to close your project in order to view the manual (which itself is a project), the manual will open in a new Word window. Please let me know your steps if that doesn't work for you. Thanks.

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Edwin Yip @Preston Mitchell, and I agree that a PDF version of the manual will help.

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Edwin Yip @gail f, thanks, and 'Template' feature will be added to Writing Outliner in the future.

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Eddie Tex Edwin, I purchased your product and looking forward to learning how to use it (though I purchased it under my real name and not my screen name). I'm a seminary student and will have plenty of opportunity to use this in the upcoming year.

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Nico Westerdale Awesome replies Edwin, great to see so many questions being answered and people choosing to purchase today!

Please note though that Innovation Gear has a great support forum, so if you are having a lot of tech questions you might want to hop on over there: http://writingoutliner.com/forum

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Snicker HaHa This appears to be based on Scrivener, an stand alone novel writing software. Right now Scrivener is a Mac program, but the developers have been working on a Windows edition and hope to have the final product ready late this summer. Read more about the Windows version here:

http://www.literatureandl...forwindows

Price wise Scrivener will run $40.00 regular price and $35.00 for an education discount. Seeing that WOMSW has a regular price tag of $49.00 and only gives one year updates, Scrivener appeals to me.

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Preston Mitchell Thanks Edwin for your patience and assistance with helping us to better understand Outliner. I believe Outliner will greatly benefit me...in spite of a few little snags. And I look forward to even better new versions. :-)

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Edwin Yip @Eddie Tex, Thanks for purchasing :)

@Snicker HaHa, Scrivener for Mac is a great program and has greatly inspired the idea of Writing Outliner for Microsoft Word, actually, I think what makes Writing Outliner different is that it's built on top of Microsoft Word's word processing power.

@Preston Mitchell, thanks, I'll be glad to help, because I believe that will also help the software developer themselves.

Innovation Gear - Jul 19 2011 at 5:41pm Copy Link

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Tom Colvin I've been using this software for 4 months now -- and it has become one of my most important writing tools.

As blogger at Becoming A Writer Seriously for over 5 years, I followed writing tools very closely -- and this one is definitely in my TOP FIVE.

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Edwin Yip @Tom Colvin,

Thanks for the kind words :)

Innovation Gear - Jul 19 2011 at 9:25pm Copy Link

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Andrew Griffiths I am buying several licenses for business use and also as gifts. Unfortunately, on my own computer, I made the error of installing MS Office 64-bit when Office 2010 was released and can't stomach reinstalling the 32-bit version and then having to tweak all my settings and add-ins. So I really hope, Edwin, that you will get the 64-bit version running VERY soon. Thank you. Cheers

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Edwin Yip @Andrew Griffiths,

Sorry for the trouble, but unfortunately, the 64-bit version will take some time...

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Andrew Griffiths @Edwin. Thanks for quick reply. Not to hold you to it - but how long is "some time" likely to be? 1 month, 3 months, 6 months? Anyway bought 4 licenses - we'll use 3 on 32-bit MS Office.

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Edwin Yip Hi Andrew,
Thank you for purchasing Writing Outliner. I'm sorry, but I really can't tell a time frame right now...

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M K G I purchased this application a few months back. Sadly, I missed the last bitsdujour offer, and contacted Edwin about when the next such offer will be. It was still some time away, but Edwin offered me a mini bargain, which I took immediately.

Since that time, I am using Writing Outliner for MS Word quite extensively. It does not work entirely problem-free, and I miss some features, I had with word macros (eg.: autosave every few minutes). I would also love to have document map (headers etc.) somehow integrated in the Writing Outliner sidebar . But all in all, the program has saved me a lot of stress, and Edwin has reacted quickly to all my requests for assistance.

The program still needs to progress further to become a super duper great product, but given the way it is progressing, and based on my current experiences with it I consider it to be a great product and a very good productivity enhancer, at the very least.

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Julie Julie This offer was Tweeted this AM (Wed., July 20) -- but it is closed! What gives????

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_*_ Yep, life got busy and I missed the offer as well.

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Julie Julie My point was: why was it being Tweeted about on a day that it was not available.

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Edwin Yip @Julie and MB, please contact me at edwin.yip@WritingOutliner.com

@ Amar, thank you for your comments.

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Paulo Correia I'm a registerd user.
When is a new version coming out?
Why aren't there any improvements for over a year?

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Edwin Yip @Paulo Correia, the new version is still under development, and I can't tell the ETA yet.

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Lupke Brother Can I install writing outliner for word on a desktop AND a laptop as a single user, or do I need two licenses?

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Edwin Yip Hi Lupke, as the Writing Outliner purchase page stated:

Writing Outliner Licensing
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Writing Outliner is licensed on a per-user basis, a user can install and use Writing Outliner on up to 2 computers, given that he/she is the only user of the installed software.

Innovation Gear - Jul 22 2013 at 5:27am Copy Link

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Geert-Jan Bouwhuis Could you tell me if there will be an update in the near future for the office 2013 64x editions ? (It is mentioned in the 2011 posts but it's still not there ?)

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David Rambridge Will this work on Office 365?

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JMJ Squared Great software for professional writers and even for the non-pro, non-book-writing user. If you are , or have, a high-school/college student, this is invaluable, especially with its Corkboard feature, easy (relatively) backup and export abilities. Finally, being integrated into MS Word, the learning curve is MUCH less than with stand-alone writing software but equally powerful

Please, PLEASE get the 64-bit version to market.... yesterday.

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Edwin Yip @David. Currently it' works Office 365 32bit only.

Re the version that'll compatible with 64bit version of MS Word, I know it's delayed, but it'll be out, I'm just currently stuck at another project which will be out of beta soon. Just in case you don't know yet, it's currently a solo developer here :P

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Edwin Yip For those who are curiosity, here is a screenshot of the completely rewritten new version that'll be compatible with Word 64bit:

http://writingoutliner.co...enshot.png

All current customers will get the **initial release** of the new version for free.

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JMJ Squared @Edwin Yip - That is really generous. I consult/volunteer at a number of private junior/high schools and frequently have recommended your excellent Program. Most of those schools have migrated to 64-bit architectures and get MS Office 64-bit Products at steeper discounts than the 32-bit versions. I have them run your (and other) 32-bit Software in virtual environments (VMware, mainly) but a native 64-bit version would really make things easier for those of us who help out.

Thanks for your feed back.

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gail f Love this program.... allows you to use Word more easily for complex documents and topics. Grab it!

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Edwin Yip @JMJ Squared, Thanks! Yes, I believe supporting 64bit version of MS Word is a must.

@fail f. Thanks!

Innovation Gear - Jul 30 2013 at 1:00am Copy Link

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Bob McLain Have the stability issues with Word 2013 been addressed and resolved?

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Software Guy This is a great idea to integrate a project based file explorer with a notes style preview and MS Word. This software requires MS Word to be installed. Just a note - MS Word can be purchased as a standalone version, meaning not bundled with MS Office for those of us who do not need excel or powerpoint, and is about $80 with a per computer license.

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Petr Edwin, Great software, as I've used it in past. But, now I have a new computer with 64bit OS and 64bit Word. I understand the upgrade to 64bit WritingOutliner will be free (no upgrade fee)?

If so, I will purchase another copy of your product for my wife, as she is writing her thesis. This will be helpful for her complex documents. Thanks.

Peter

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JMJ Squared @Petr Edwin - The description above mentions various "Platforms" and ends with "(32-bit only)" which leads one to believe they are talking about the Operating System.

In fact, Writing Outliner runs fine on a Windows 64-bit OPERATING SYSTEM. The description should read: "MS Word 32-bit only."

Good luck to the Wife on here thesis. New boat for you, too, I suppose? :-)

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Edwin Yip @Software Guy, thanks for the note.

@Petr, yes, the first stable release of the new Writing Outliner will be a free upgrade for all existing customers.

@JMJ Squared, well, the bitness thing sometimes confuse :)

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Petr @Edwin, thank you for clarifying. As I understand there is a distinction between 64bit Word and 32bit Word, either of which can run on 64bit Windows.

Your "first stable release" will be the WritingOutliner for use with 64bit Word, correct? Thank you very much for your terrific support for now-industry standard Word / Windows configurations.

Best Regards,

Peter

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Edwin Yip @Petr, the 'first stable release' will be the first stable release of the completely rewritten new software (maybe be called 'Writing Outliner 2' or 'ProjectFolders') that'll support both 32bit and 64bit versions of MS Word.

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Peter Martin I wii not buy a license

I mean a new one...because I bought one already.

Edwin you have created a winner. It was the best $50 dollars (more or less) I ever spent in software and maybe even ever. I could have bought the Writting Outliner for three or four times more and it would have been worth it for me.

If only one has the ability to sort the titles (left side) then I would say it is perfect.

I probably will not be able to meet you in person but at least let me shake yor hand electronically...I am a total fanatic...incredible job.

Sincerely
Peter

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Bob McLain Since I got no answer to my question about the stability issues with Word 2013, I assume they still exist - making this software a no-go for Word 2013 users.

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Edwin Yip @Bob Mclain, I somehow forgot to answer you, sorry.

In a few days I'll be release a new version for the only purpose of integrating the latest version of the underlying software development component that supports Word 2013 better.

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Edwin Yip @Peter, wow, thanks for the kind words! That makes me feel guilty for not being able to release the completely rewritten version soon enough...

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Edwin Yip deleted, duplicated reply.

Innovation Gear - Jul 31 2013 at 10:12am Copy Link

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Bob McLain That's great news. Thanks for letting us know.

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Pavi Johnson Hi, is there an ETA for the new version? I really need the native .doc and .docx to be accessible.

I will probably buy today just to be eligible for the upgraded version!

Best, /Pavi

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Ela S. I'd love to buy this program, but it never worked with my PC constellation MS Office 2007 32-bit and Win 7 64-bit.

After installation, it shows the writing-outliner tree on the left side, but than freezes with an error window I do not remember now. First trial installation was about 2 years ago on a Vista computer, last trial installation was about 2 month ago on a m computer.

Has this version become more stable now?

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german user hello

1) is there a german version?
1a) if yes, sorry it seems im still asleep
1b) if no, (when) will there be a german version?
1c) what will happen when i use the english software with a german word?
2) plans for 64 bit?

(german language has a higher priority for me)

cu

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Ela S. Can't find my recent comment but hopefully it will soon be published here.

Concerning the operating problems described with writing-outliner and WORD 2007 32-bit / Win 7 64-bit (German version), I just installed the latest trial version for testing and following message appears after opening WORD:

"An error has occurred during program execution. Pls read following information for further details ...

Application:
-------------------------------------------------------------
1.1 Start Date : Thu, 1 Aug 2013 12:05:08 +0200
1.2 Name/Description: WINWORD.EXE - (Microsoft Office Word)
1.3 Version Number : 12.0.6668.5000
1.4 Parameters :
1.5 Compilation Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 17:58:54 +0200
1.6 Up Time : 1 minute, 14 seconds

Exception:
----------------------------------------------------
2.1 Date : Thu, 1 Aug 2013 12:06:23 +0200
2.2 Address : 0C343ADE
2.3 Module Name : Outliner4Word.dll
2.4 Module Version: 1.6.20.803
2.5 Type : EOleException
2.6 Message : Befehl misslungen. (means "Command failed")
2.7 ID : 5D29
2.8 Count : 1
2.9 Status : New
2.10 Note :

Operating System:
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6.1 Type : Microsoft Windows 7 (64 bit)
6.2 Build # : 7601
6.3 Update : Service Pack 1
6.4 Language: German
6.5 Charset : 0

So what can I do to get it working? I would be happy to buy if the programm runs properly.

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Ivan Helfman Can we get a BitsduJour discount on the Outliner-Visulizer combo?

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Peter Blackledge For what it's worth - given the comments so far about stability, etc. with different versions of Word and Windows - I have the trial version running on Windows 8 x64 and Word 2013 x32. Seems to be fully functional, no problems, no conflicts. I'm going to buy a copy.
P.

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Edwin Yip @Pavi Johnson, sorry, I can't tell the exact ETA yet.
@german user, sorry, there is not a German version yet.
@Ivan Helfman, the best offer for a MindVisualizer-Writing Outliner combo is the one currently being offered at the http://WritingOutliner.com site.

Innovation Gear - Aug 1 2013 at 7:03am Copy Link

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Ivan Helfman Does the best combo guarantee the Outliner upgrade to the 64-bit version of MS Word 2010?

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Edwin Yip To all: I'd like to give more background about the stability - as opposed to other standalone software that usually only interacts with the Windows system, Writing Outliner as a Word add-in software additionally has to also interact with two more components - 1) MS Word and 2) the other installed addins.

So it really vary on different computers. But one thing I can sure of is that, the completely rewritten new version will have much better compatibility with MS Word itself and other addins.

Innovation Gear - Aug 1 2013 at 7:10am Copy Link

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Edwin Yip @Ivan. Yes.

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cathy Won is this software compatible with open office?

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VLM Edwin - May I assume that this fine product runs only on MS Word, and not on its fine mimic, SoftMaker Office?

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JMJ Squared @German User - You should have no problem because your German installation of WINDOWS has all the characters of an English installation and more; e.g., umlaut. Any issues, install the English Language Pack from Windows Update.

@Ely S - Assuming that you have installed MS OFFICE Sp3 from Microsoft Update, try running Office Diagnostics from Word's OPTIONS--RESOURCES. If no good, then:

Download a fresh copy of the installer and reinstall WritingOutliner by right-clicking the installer and clicking "Run as Administrator".

Do you have UAC set to its highest alert settings? If, so, drop the setting down ONE level to, "Don't notify me...." .

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Edwin Yip @Cathy, sorry no.
@VLM, yes.

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Lito Any ETA on when you'll have the 64 bit version ready? I am on the fence, I only have the 64bit version of Office 2010 installed so I'd basically have to buy without even trialing the software so I am kind of hesitant, but several of the features of your product are very appealing.

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Edwin Yip @JMJ Squared, it's very kind of you! I somehow overloaded @german user's 1c) question and thanks for asking that.

Innovation Gear - Aug 1 2013 at 8:48am Copy Link

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Edwin Yip @Lito. The ETA for a 64bit version will be in this year, maybe earlier.

Innovation Gear - Aug 1 2013 at 8:50am Copy Link

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VLM Edwin - Thank you!

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Norm Sash Is it possible with this writing software to outsource sections? For example, if I have one section to give to a technical team, one section to give to a UI team, and one to give to a marketing team... can I then merge them all back together into the master document?

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Ela S. @Edwin Yip + Peter R
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Thanks for your kind instructions - Problem resolved so far:

MS Word 2007 SP3 and Win 7 were already up-to-date and no UAC.

I have deactivated all addins in Word 2007 and can use the trial version now.

Too late to find out which addin causes the problem (which I would all need to work with), I will follow up further developments of your program.

Using Scrivener separately so far, it is much more comfortable to have all these functions directly integrated into the Word program.

I thus really appreciate your program.

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Edwin Yip @Norm Sash, With the current version while you can do that, it'll take several steps: you make the sections in a project, then export the entire structure to disk, manually send the exported docx files to the departments respectively; when you get updated docs from them, you'll have to important those files manually, and adjust the new project structure. Then you'll be ready to merge.

Innovation Gear - Aug 1 2013 at 7:55pm Copy Link

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Edwin Yip @Ely S. You are welcome. Yes, integrating the functions for writing large-scale documents or a series of related documents seamlessly into MS Word is the idea of Writing Outliner. You want to to subscribe the Writing Outliner newsletter to get informed about the availability of the new version: http://writingoutliner.co...signup.php.

Innovation Gear - Aug 1 2013 at 7:58pm Copy Link

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Ela S. Thanks for the prolongation to this unbeatable price - already bought it!!!

It is the Word Addin "Smarttol AutoBackup Tool" which had crashed Writing Outliner. So just deactivate this, and everything works perfect.

With Writing Outliner, Word has become a real productivity tool today!!!

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Edwin Yip @Ely S, thanks for telling the details, and I wish you enjoying using Writing Outliner :)

Innovation Gear - Aug 2 2013 at 7:20am Copy Link

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Ivan Helfman On demo, properties panel would not come up in newly created files on both my XP and Windows 7 PCs. Reason?

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Bjondc Could this operate a bit like OneNote (without the online syncing), with different sections, pages, and so on?

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Edwin Yip @Ivan Helfman, maybe the panel's previously collapsed? If that's the case, just click on the right most bar to toggle it on.

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Edwin Yip @Bjondc, do you mean the left pane organizes the docs like OneNote's left pane?

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Ivan Helfman Using the togggle,the properties panel works for the sample project, but not for my newly created. ones, on both my XP and W7 PCs, using Word 2002 or Word 2010.

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Edwin Yip @Ivan, would you show me a screenshot?

Innovation Gear - Aug 2 2013 at 9:28am Copy Link

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Ivan Helfman My fault! Just got it working.

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VLM If you would be kind enough to return to BDJ when you have the 64-bit version ready to go, we shall be most interested!

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ANdy Williams I am one of those rare people who reads user manuals -- can anyone tell me where the manual for this can be found -- thanks

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Lupke Brother @ Andy,

Start Word, go to writing outliner, open 'see a sample project, it's also the user manual'

that simple ;-)

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David Rambridge Just to let you know I purchased the product and it is looking great under Office 365 and windows 7 64bit. No problems on either my laptop or desktop, all features appear to work fine. Love the product and creating my first project straight away :)

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John Britz So I decided to try the product before buying it, and it would not install, nor would it let me do anything else on my PC.
Had to reboot. PC still stuck in a loop.
Win7 64bit, Office 2010

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HJ B In installed the program and, on my first use, about five hours ago, an error message appeared, and the program generated an email to the vendor, presumably describing the product. I also included a note asking how one can toggle between the program screen and the ordinary Word screen.

I have not heard anything back from the vendor.

The concept of the program is attractive. I hesitate to purchase it unless I am satisfied that the error condition can be eliminated.

I am running 64 bit windows 8 and Microsoft Office Pro Plus 2010 32bit. with an Intel i7 64birt processor and 12 gig of memory.

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Edward Smith @John Britz. I did purchase hoping it would work on my 7 64 machine and it did not. I too had to reboot and remove Writing Outliner.

@Edwin - Should I contact you for a refund, or will we get a copy of the 64 bit version when it comes out. I am willing to wait IF you are certain it will be this year.

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Edwin Yip @John Britz, by "it would not install" did you see any error message? What's your Windows version?

Re "PC still stuck in a loop", since Writing Outliner starts only after MS Word is started, I'm not sure why that happened, do you start MS Word when your computer boots?

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Edwin Yip @HJ B, the auto generated bug report will be checked and I've got any result will get back to you. Re toggling on/off Writing Outliner, please find the 'Writing Outliner' ribbon, click the 'Enable Writing Outliner' or 'Disable Writing Outliner' buttons.

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Edwin Yip @Edward Smith, as I stated easiler, all customers will get the initial release of the next complete rewritten version which'll support Word 64bit, I'm quite sure it'll be ready this year. The bottom line is that you can ask for a refund anytime.

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Edward Smith Thanks for the reassurance. I'll keep it and wait for the 64 bit version.

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Edwin Yip What's new in v1.9 since v1.5:
- Supports all the new versions of Word including Word 365, 2019, 2016, 2013, 32-bit and 64-bit, for Win 10 or older versions.
- Supports 4 color index cards - pink, yellow, blue and green.
- Significant corkboard usability improvements.
- Supports high resolution screens including 4K monitors.
- And a bunch of other improvements.

You can check the new screenshots and a video here: http://writingoutliner.co...ware/blog/

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Dunking I am interested in this, but haven't figured out a potential issue that could be make or break for me.

I want to use this to facilitate writing reports and specification documents. They all have a particular style which is defined by some templates. The front page has a certain layout with embedded logo, and there are defined header and footer style and contents.

What I haven't figured out is how to use these with this application. I looked at the example (the manual) but, of course, Word doesn't allow applying a template after the document is created. It allows the import of styles, but templates are more than just styles.

Is this possible? Could I, perhaps halfway through writing the document, insert a new page using a template and then have that template wrap the entire thing when it's compiled? I don't want to mess around adding headers and footers at the end - the whole point of this is to click the button and there is the finished output, after all.

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Eduardo Amado Edwin, I`m a former user of the first realeses of Writing Outliner. I wonder if it is posiible to apply the 50% off for the update price.

Apr 7 2020 at 6:48am Copy Link

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Edwin Yip @Eduardo Amado, yes, the previous upgrade price was 40% off, but in the future it'll be 50% off. But please note that the discount won't add up if you purchase it here. You can contact me for the way to purchase the upgrade.

Innovation Gear - Apr 7 2020 at 6:59am Copy Link

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Edwin Yip @Dunking,
That's a very practical question. And it's a good feature to implement. But maybe the header/footer won't have to be defined somewhere in the "Project Options".
PS, DocxManager (another product of mine) has a similar feature as you described - apply styles to the rest of the project from a 'style template document', see here: https://docxmanager.com/d...tyles.html And contact me with email if DocxManager is more suitable to your needs.

Innovation Gear - Apr 7 2020 at 7:05am Copy Link

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Dunking Thanks for getting back on this quickly, Edwin.
Er, are you saying it would be nice to have but it doesn't have it right now? If it meant I have to create a new document from an existing template, and have that document be the first and/of compiled at the front of everything else, that would be OK. Applying after writing would be nice but not critical (I know what it's going to be before I start, after all).

The other app you point to I am not really sure what it does, but essentially $99 for this one feature is a bit much :)

Apr 7 2020 at 7:32am Copy Link

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Edwin Yip @Dunking,
You are welcome! Yes, the current version of WritingOutliner doesn't have such a feature yet, but I'm quite sure it'll be added, although I couldn't tell the time frame at the moment.

Innovation Gear - Apr 7 2020 at 8:10am Copy Link

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Steve Ekeroth I came across this program this morning and I thought it would give it a try, but when I installed the trial version and created a new project things do not look right. I am using Word 365, but as you can see from the screenshot there is no menu button in the project manager pane as I expected from the reading the documentation. Also, opening the manual seems to be working. Here is a screenshot link: https://1drv.ms/u/s!Aj0Z8...g?e=gaYDL3

Apr 7 2020 at 8:39am Copy Link

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Tommy Hale After 2 installations per footprint will you still allow a reinstall? I normally reinstall windows every 18 months to get a fresh start and remove software I no longer use. ...Tommy

Apr 7 2020 at 8:44am Copy Link

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Edwin Yip @Steve Ekeroth, Thanks for the screenshot, something is wrong with WritingOutliner on your system. Would you click Tools->Copy System Info and send it to edwin.yip [at] writingoutliner.com?

Innovation Gear - Apr 7 2020 at 8:49am Copy Link

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Edwin Yip @Tommy Hale, Sure, you can re-install WritingOutliner anytime in the future on the same computer or another (de-activate it first from the previous computer if it reached two activations)

Innovation Gear - Apr 7 2020 at 8:52am Copy Link

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slm I am evaluating the trial version 1.9 of this program this morning. I worked through the user's manual and played with most of the features. I am using it with MS Word 2016. There are two features that I was not able to get to work: Multi-Column Outliner in a Tab Window and the File Explorer in a Tab Window. When I create a New Tab Window only two options are offered: open an existing folder/document or create a corkboard. Are these features disabled in the trial version?

Apr 7 2020 at 12:24pm Copy Link

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Craig S. I also am interested in this program, but after install, opening Word, and creating a new outliner file, the program crashed. I've uploaded the bug report, but am concerned I won't have time to test this before this promo is over here at BDJ. Given this, can the discount be extended to me if I can't get the program to work before the promo is over?

Apr 7 2020 at 2:00pm Copy Link

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Dunking After trying this for a bit I decided to give it a whirl and purchased a copy. To work around the template thing I create a new file from the template, ctl-a, ctl-c the compiled work and ctl-v in the new file. That deals with the header and footer, front page, etc. Providing I use the same styles in both there isn't an issue, but if the styles are different then merging them is so much pain that it's better not to use this. If a better way of applying a template made it into this product it would be really useful.

Apr 7 2020 at 3:23pm Copy Link

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Dennis User This file will not open for me.

Apr 7 2020 at 3:55pm Copy Link

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Louis H Word keeps shutting down and restarting. It was not doing this before installing Writing Outliner. Not sure why this is happening, nor if it might be a known or unknown bug, but if it is only happening with this program installed, which right now seems to be the case, will need to pass. Did not see anything on programs website for trial version limitations including this. Otherwise seems like a nice program, I like the way it is set up.

Using Win 10 Pro (recent public release, not Beta) with Word 365 (current release).

Edit: 11pm 04/07/2020 - Have been using it for awhile and not getting the restarts the way I was. So I am not sure whether it was something on my end, or related to the program, but it does appear to have stopped. Wanted to add this note so things were not left with a cloud over the program itself, at least for my usage of it. Picking up a copy. Thanks to Edwin and BDJ for the deal.

Apr 7 2020 at 5:17pm Copy Link

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Edwin Yip @Craig S, Thanks for submitting the bug report, I'll check it. You can contact me for the way to take advantage this discount after this campaign is over.

@Stanley Mitchell, The File Explorer Tab has been replaced by the Windows system's Open/Save File Dialogs, and the Multi-Column Outliner has been removed since according to users feedback it makes the app feel too complex.

@Dunking, I'm quite sure a feature for some kind of global template will be implemented in future versions.

@Louis H, will check the issue. If possible, I'll be appreciated if you submit the bug report if the WritingOutliner Issue Report dialog appears.

Innovation Gear - Apr 7 2020 at 8:14pm Copy Link

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marc User This app sounded like the a nifty way to organize documents for some major products. I downloaded it with a few hours to go in the promotion and installed it in Office 365. Alas every project I created, after a short while testing the software, crashed Word with an access violation. Based on everyone's positive comments I may be the old one with such an error. For me, at least, I don't have time to plunk down my money now, and chase down that kind of error later, especially since one of the test projects I created couldn't be reopened due to file corruption.

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slm @Edwin Yip, thanks for clarifying the product features. I'll be ordering a copy.

Apr 7 2020 at 10:21pm Copy Link

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Edwin Yip @marc, Thanks for the details of the problem you encountered, I'll definitely check it and fix it.

Innovation Gear - Apr 7 2020 at 10:47pm Copy Link

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David Maryka @Edwin Yip : you stated that you removed the Multi-Column Outliner because it made "the app feel too complex". I'm pleading with you to re-consider that decision and at least make it a user option.
I've purchased and used numerous Outline and Info Managers (including InfoQube, RightNote, Myinfo, Scrivener, Evernote, Nimbus Note, etc.) each with their own advantages but all of them lacking Word's editing power. This app allows me to capture Thoughts and Ideas as individual documents, organize them into a coherent structure and finally "assemble" them into full documents with every element having full access to Word's features.
The ONLY essential feature missing is that Multi-Column Outliner that allows me to quickly review the overall status of the proposed final document. It is also the 2nd entry on your Features webpage so it must have been important to you at one time.
Otherwise, this is a brilliant app that has already become central to my daily workflow. Well done... just wish I had discovered it sooner!

Apr 8 2020 at 6:48am Copy Link

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Heather User I purchased this because I love the idea ... an add-in that makes Microsoft Word more like Scrivener. But in the first 10 minutes after installing it, I've had 2 errors, one of which crashed Word. The interface for the corkboard does not adjust well across screens when you're using a mutli-display setup ... the corkboard area overlaps the bar just above it so you can't see the tabs and the text is so large on the notes that you can't see the title on each card. It's not usable for me in this state ... would just be a constant struggle. I hope the developer keeps iterating and improving because I would love to use this once these kinks are worked out.

Apr 8 2020 at 8:13am Copy Link

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Edwin Yip @David Maryka, Thanks for your comment, it makes sense. I'll consider it. But the bottom line is, even without the old Multi-column Outline View I most likely will add a feature that allows you to quickly review the overall status of the proposed final document.

Innovation Gear - Apr 8 2020 at 8:39am Copy Link

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Edwin Yip @Heather User, the issue you described might have something to do with your multi-monitor setup, if possible, would you send me some screenshots of the second issue? Thanks.

Innovation Gear - Apr 8 2020 at 8:43am Copy Link

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David Maryka @Heather : I received a couple of error messages and a Word shutdown when I first started using this app. After this initial "settling-in period", I've spent hours in it without any significant problems.
I have a 4 monitor setup (2@1920x1200, 1@1200x1920, 1@1920x1080) and I haven't had any issue with the Corkboard once I set [Scale Font Size] to 90%. I agree that the Corkboard needs some work but it is a relatively new feature.
The real saving grace is that the individual documents are stored inside a database (with version/revision control) so a shutdown will not destroy a whole complex document like with Word itself.
I hope you keep working with this app. I've struggled with Scrivener's limitations for years but I've already increased my productivity with Writing Outliner in a matter of hours. When I get back into fiction writing, I'll probably still use Scrivener for Plot and Character development, but the bulk of the writing will be via this app; I can see them complementing each other really well.

Apr 8 2020 at 9:11am Copy Link

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Heather User @Edwin Yip ... I emailed you my screenshots. I also submitted error reports the three times I had an error pop up. Thanks!

Apr 8 2020 at 11:46am Copy Link

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Louis H Since purchasing the program last night (Eastern US), I have been working quite a bit with it and am no longer having the few hiccups I was experiencing with the trial version. Even when I was having them, it was a simple restarting of Word with my document intact. Again, no longer sure it was the program itself, or something on my end, but it has certainly disappeared whatever it was. Liking this program the more I use it. For clarification, I am not using it for any level of professional writing, so my mileage may be different than what others might experience, but for what I am doing with it, I've made far more progress in the past 24 hours than the past 12 months. (Why yes, I am a procrastinator. Why do you ask?)

Apr 8 2020 at 1:07pm Copy Link

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Dennis User I haven't been able to load this program. I did purchase it. I continue to receive System Error 5 in a Windows 10 computer. I have never had a problem loading programs with a System Error 5 blockage on this machine. Can anyone offer suggestions on how to overcome this problem?

Apr 8 2020 at 1:40pm Copy Link

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Kevin User There are many bugs in high resolution. I don't think this version is a stable one.

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HJ User In view of the error reports, I downloaded and installed this program, with some concern that it might screw up my MS word installation. I took the chance, reasoning that I could reinstall Word 365 and overcome any bugs.

Upon installation, a new menu tab is added with regard to Writing Outliner. It included a menu item to "Open the Manual". I did so. The manual is laid out with a long table of contents links, and an initial page of numerous colored blocks, each containing a sentence of two of an outline.

Perhaps because I am new to this program, I found the manual presentation to be awkward, time consuming and confusing. I looked for an option to convert the whole thing to a standard Word or pdf document. There was a colored block that invited me to "Print this if you want to print the entire manual" Clicking the block did nothing. I highlighted the block and went used the Word print menu and it printed the page of colored blocks (i.e. about 10 sentences of the manual".

I looked on the Writing Manual site, but I could not find any pdf or standard word version of the manual.

The menu found in the Writing Manual tab is rather sparse. For me, at least, the use of the product does not appear to offer any advantages. If could review a standard manual, perhaps I would gain a perception of some advantage.

Word, itself has a number of organizational tools, such as internal links, that I think are better, from an organizational perspective, then a bunch of colored boxes with a sentence or two squeeze in. Again, perhaps a manual would give me another insight.

Apr 8 2020 at 11:46pm Copy Link

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Dunking Hmm. Well I purchased this yesterday, installed it and checked it was there in Word, then forgot about it while I got on with other stuff. Today my PC got stuck during boot for the first time in... well, I can't remember the last time. Required a power-off to get out of it and restart. Perhaps it's just the warm weather, but I am not looking forward to tomorrow's startup...

Apr 9 2020 at 3:58am Copy Link

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Edwin Yip @David, Thanks for sharing your opinions! What features do you think WritingOutliner should add for Plot and Character development?

@Heather, Thanks for the bug reports, I'll check them.

@Louis, Great to hear that WritingOutliner is of helpful!

@Dennis, Not sure about the System 5 Error you have, but if you have a chance to submit the bug reports please do it and I'll check them.

@Kevin, definitely there are room for WritingOutliner to improve on a multi-monitor setup.

@HJ, you are right, a better form of the manual should be provided for new users. It'll be done.

Innovation Gear - Apr 9 2020 at 4:09am Copy Link

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Edwin Yip @Dunking, sorry for the PC boot issue you had, but I don't think WritingOutliner would affect your system like that, because the WritingOutliner installer only adds it as an Word add-in to Word, it doesn't affect the Windows system otherwise. Let me know if you have other new findings and I might be able to help you :)

Innovation Gear - Apr 9 2020 at 4:16am Copy Link

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Dennis User Here is the message I receive:

RED X: Unable to execute the file in the temporary directory. Setup aborted. Error 5: Access is denied.

I tried this 10 times. I hope the adage that "doing the same thing over and over is a sign of ....."

I would love to try this program. Also, never have I had a problem loading programs on the Windows 10 based machine.

Apr 9 2020 at 6:21am Copy Link

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HJ User Further to my prior note I assume the manual, itself, is an illustration of what a Writing Ouliner document looks like.
1. Is there a way to print the entire "outline" to a printer, with one or two clicks?

2. The theory of WO seems to be that headings are on discrete pages. Is there a way to print the document out to a printer, but with the blank space eliminated, so as not to unnecessarily use a lot of paper.

3. I attempted to print the outline to a pdf, and I received an error code with the request that I permit status data to go to writingoutliner.com, with my email address. I agreed. is there a pdf compatibility issue? Will I get a note back from the writingoutliner.com

Apr 9 2020 at 8:16am Copy Link

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Edwin Yip @Dennis, I guess the anti-virus/security software on your system might be is blocking the WritingOutliner installer. And don't worry, WritingOutliner is digitally signed, clean as proved by VirusTotal.com: https://www.virustotal.co.../detection

Innovation Gear - Apr 9 2020 at 8:42am Copy Link

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Edwin Yip @HJ,
1 - Sorry, not yet.
2 - If I understand you correctly, you can try compile/merge the project or just a brunch of it, then print the resulting document. But please ensure you have selected the correct 'Insert Break Before' document-level option for each documents before performing the merging.
3 - Sorry I don't follow, can you give me more details? You can send your email to support (at) writingoutliner.com

Innovation Gear - Apr 9 2020 at 8:48am Copy Link

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IQ User I excluded the Version History folder (due to formatting issues), compiled the rest of the WO Manual, exported to a Word Document, assigned Heading Styles based on formatting, created a Table of Contents, saved and finally exported as a PDF with Bookmarks based on Headings. The whole process took about 20 minutes. Everyone can download both the DOCX and PDF by clicking on the link below:

https://app.box.com/s/nu7...ubanfd5sra

Apr 9 2020 at 10:15am Copy Link

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Craig S. I'm really intrigued by this Scrivener-like add-in for Word, but after multiple installs, uninstalls, reinstalls, etc., I'm still having so many error messages and crashes in Word that I'm going to have to pass for this round. Hoping some of this gets ironed out in the future and I'll check back in.

Apr 9 2020 at 10:41am Copy Link

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HJ User @IQ User
I am not sure how you did it, but congratulations. That said, what I get from your summary is that printing out a WO project takes 20 minutes. I guess that means any time one wants to print out a changed WO project, that is another 20 minutes. From your description it sounds like the result of installing WO is a WO program with a Word add-on, rather than the other way around.

@Edwin Yip
Thank you for your response.

As to item 2, I cannot say whether the conditions you describe were in the document. The document is the WO user manual.

As to item 3, the error was accompanied by an option to click ok if I wanted the data sent to you. I said ok. So, you should already have it. I do not, since there was no option to save.

Apr 9 2020 at 3:43pm Copy Link

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HJ User @IQ User
I am not sure how you did it, but congratulations. That said, what I get from your summary is that printing out a WO project takes 20 minutes. I guess that means any time one wants to print out a changed WO project, that is another 20 minutes. From your description it sounds like the result of installing WO is a WO program with a Word add-on, rather than the other way around.

@Edwin Yip
Thank you for your response.

As to item 2, I cannot say whether the conditions you describe were in the document. The document is the WO user manual.

As to item 3, the error was accompanied by an option to click "ok" if I wanted the data sent to you. I said "ok". So, you should already have it. I do not have that data, since there was no option to save.

Apr 9 2020 at 4:11pm Copy Link

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IQ User @HJ : A properly designed Outline with assigned Heading Styles in the original Documents takes all of 1 minute to Compile/Merge into a Document that can be immediately printed or exported for further review/cleanup. I've had WO for less than 48 hours and was working with an unfamiliar Outline.

The 20 minutes mentioned included an initial Compile/Export with the Version History folder causing issues, figuring out how to Exclude that folder, a 2nd & 3rd Compile/Export to test a few options; that all took about 10 minutes. The other 10 minutes was caused by the Headings in the original Manual Documents not being assigned the proper Heading Styles; this required several rounds of Selecting text based on formatting and assigning Heading Styles. After that, creating the Table of Contents and exporting as a PDF with Bookmarks took only seconds as well.

If you assign appropriate Heading Styles in each Document/Element, the Compile process to create the Merged Document takes a matter of seconds. You can then print it or export it as a separate DOCX for final review and clean up. You can also Compile any Branch of your outline separately so you can work in your project in Sections.

Apr 9 2020 at 5:08pm Copy Link

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Edwin Yip @IQ, Thank you very much for taking the time to tidy up the "WritingOutliner Manual" project and export it as a PDF! Actually, I'm planning to make a feature for exporting the entire project as a PDF for the future versions.

Innovation Gear - Apr 11 2020 at 2:02am Copy Link

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Edwin Yip @Craig, Sorry for the issues you have experienced, I wish you have utilized the
WritingOutliner's Bug Report dialog and reported the issues. You are welcomed to check WritingOutliner again later.

@HJ, Thank you for the bug reports!

Innovation Gear - Apr 11 2020 at 2:07am Copy Link

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Edwin Yip The promo has been ended and I want to say thank you to all for purchasing WritingOutliner and those who have given me valuable feedback during the discussions!

Innovation Gear - Apr 11 2020 at 2:10am Copy Link

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IQ User @Edwin : I was happy to work with the Manual as it provided a good sample project to review WO's capabilities and I needed it for my own education. I'll send you a copy when I finish getting it cleaned up further.

As for the direct PDF export in WO, that seems like a duplication of effort considering how good MS Word's built-in PDF support is. It's also always useful to review the whole Merged document before committing it to a fixed PDF format.

I'm still learning WO's capabilities but the 2 areas of improvement that I see are somewhat related; 1) a way to review the status of all Elements in a Branch; 2) a way to build multiple Merge Outlines referencing a common Repository of Elements/Documents (all edits of a common Element are automatically reflected in each Outline).

Thanks for your renewed interest in advancing this product and I hope that this promotion has been successful for you.

Apr 11 2020 at 11:53am Copy Link

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Eduardo Amado I compiled the manual and printed it to PDF using MS Word's PDF support without any issue. Did not had any of the problems other mates posted in this conversation. But I missed the columns view of the former version of WO. This addon was near to convert itself as a Scrivener for Windows killer. Now it is a bit far away of that accomplishement.

Apr 11 2020 at 12:11pm Copy Link

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Craig S. @Edwin Yip - You wrote: " @Craig, Sorry for the issues you have experienced, I wish you have utilized the
WritingOutliner's Bug Report dialog and reported the issues. You are welcomed to check WritingOutliner again later."

Actually I did submit multiple bug reports (at least three). I'm looking forward to hearing back from you and trying your program again. Have a great weekend.

Apr 11 2020 at 1:50pm Copy Link

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Edwin Yip @IQ, Thank you! Re #2, do you mean some kind of mirrored nodes/documents?

Innovation Gear - Apr 11 2020 at 11:28pm Copy Link

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Edwin Yip @Craig S, Thank you! I'll check those bug reports.
@Eduardo, Thank you! The Multi-column Outliner View will be added back.

Innovation Gear - Apr 11 2020 at 11:29pm Copy Link

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IQ User @Edwin : I want to have individual Node/Documents appear in MULTIPLE Outlines WITHOUT having to DUPLICATE the Document, The way I understand WO is that each Element/Document is "stored" in a separate Record with a Unique ID in the .woprj SQLite database file. I would like to build Outlines that just "reference" those Unique IDs and have WO go back to the single stored Document for Editing and/or Merging.

I'm pulling over hundreds of Webpage clippings on a wide variety of subjects into a single WO Project. When I do a Text Search and/or Tag Filter I want the results to go into a separate Outline that I can Cull, Organize and Merge as I see fit WITHOUT affecting the Repository of Webpages.

Once I have the Query Outline the way I want it, I would like to pull COPIES of the original Documents into the Outline to be edited so that only the relevant information goes into the final Merge.

I used to be a database programmer by trade so I will probably explore the structure of your .WOPRJ files at some point so I can be more specific about this request. Just something for you to think about as you decide on the future of this marvelous app.

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Edwin Yip @IQ, Thanks for the detailed explanation. I think I understand what you mean. You are welcomed to explorer the db but you don't have to do so just for giving me more specific description of what you want :)

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